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Old 04-01-2016, 11:09 PM
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STAR/DAS/Xentry is not a panacea. Yeah, it's great and all. For around $450 you get a Chinese knock-off and it will work with some effort.

You will spend literally 40 hours learning about keygens, licensing, black lists, laptops, COM port settings, SDFlash folders, offline programming, etc. to become proficient.

Once you get to that point, software is great. You'll run across the random German screen but it is damn easy to use.

With that said, you may be able to pull off an offline adaptive flash for the tranny if yours is a 7 speed. There were updates for that. There is no effing way I would attempt it. Start swapping CANBUS parts? That's a SCN thing that needs to communicate with the mothership.

Things you can't do:

Set tuner parameters for engine
Set MPH limiter to unlimited
Pick winning lotto numbers

What it will do is tell you the heating element is shot in your right mirror.

I really do wish the best of luck and hope it all turns out ok. I was your age once, and learning the sunk cost fallacy is often brutal.

For a couple hundred bucks for a scan you are helping the shop pay for the equipment. Their cost for the "official tools" are around 30K. Think of it like an MRI machine at the hospital. They gotta pay for it somehow. Life isn't a charity.
Thank you for the input KN.

How do I know if the Shop has a knock off Star module? Are there any tell tale signs?

Where do I go to take the speed limiter off? On Youtube I saw that a stock S600 can do 197mph.
Old 04-01-2016, 11:14 PM
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Where do I go to take the speed limiter off? On Youtube I saw that a stock S600 can do 197mph.
Why the hell would you want to do that? Blow up your engine and tranny at warp speed?
Old 04-01-2016, 11:32 PM
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Why the hell would you want to do that? Blow up your engine and tranny at warp speed?
Why would that happen? Its the speed limiter, not RPM limiter.

The car handled it well and got there quickly...
Old 04-01-2016, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mercedesbenzs55
Thank you for the input KN.

How do I know if the Shop has a knock off Star module? Are there any tell tale signs?

Where do I go to take the speed limiter off? On Youtube I saw that a stock S600 can do 197mph.
Yeah there are several signs. When the shirtless mechanic in a greasy pair of overalls comes out holding a crescent wrench asking you "how much money you got?" is a good sign he may not be an authorized MB mechanic.

As for top speed, 197 is trivial son. Always pisses me off Distronic cuts off at 122.
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MBS55, so now that we realize from Mike that the subframe is steel and not aluminum, when are you taking the car to Vlad (a.k.a. Nick) to look it over? That's about the only big hurdle you have left to get this car on the road, right?
Old 04-02-2016, 12:19 AM
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Yeah there are several signs. When the shirtless mechanic in a greasy pair of overalls comes out holding a crescent wrench asking you "how much money you got?" is a good sign he may not be an authorized MB mechanic.

As for top speed, 197 is trivial son. Always pisses me off Distronic cuts off at 122.
lol, I had a mechanic tell me that that he doesnt have star, but has a module for mercedes that can actuate the different systems. Is this good enough?

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MBS55, so now that we realize from Mike that the subframe is steel and not aluminum, when are you taking the car to Vlad (a.k.a. Nick) to look it over? That's about the only big hurdle you have left to get this car on the road, right?
Nah, I showed him that it is in fact Aluminum. The rear is the last hurdle. MAACO quotedme $1190.


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Originally Posted by kn51
STAR/DAS/Xentry is not a panacea. Yeah, it's great and all. For around $450 you get a Chinese knock-off and it will work with some effort.

You will spend literally 40 hours learning about keygens, licensing, black lists, laptops, COM port settings, SDFlash folders, offline programming, etc. to become proficient.

Once you get to that point, software is great. You'll run across the random German screen but it is damn easy to use.

With that said, you may be able to pull off an offline adaptive flash for the tranny if yours is a 7 speed. There were updates for that. There is no effing way I would attempt it. Start swapping CANBUS parts? That's a SCN thing that needs to communicate with the mothership.

Things you can't do:

Set tuner parameters for engine
Set MPH limiter to unlimited
Pick winning lotto numbers

What it will do is tell you the heating element is shot in your right mirror.

I really do wish the best of luck and hope it all turns out ok. I was your age once, and learning the sunk cost fallacy is often brutal.

For a couple hundred bucks for a scan you are helping the shop pay for the equipment. Their cost for the "official tools" are around 30K. Think of it like an MRI machine at the hospital. They gotta pay for it somehow. Life isn't a charity.
nonsense. There are members that sell complete packages that you don't need to know anything about computers for. I bought my system previously used for $400 and it works right out of the box.

It also had developer mode where I can change coding on the vehicle, including the speed limiter.

As far as I'm concerned, in terms of home DIY, it is a panacea for owners of complex mb products
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I've always been quite good with computers. So i will figure out the system quickly. Thank you Quadcammer
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MAACO it and drive the *****.
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MAACO it and drive the *****.

I figured if they mess up or damage the car they will make have to make it right
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Or right enough to drive and enjoy.
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The question is do you want it almost perfect ($$$$) or like compaddict is implying, fixed by a shop like Maaco ($$) and looking passable to start driving it?
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Does the MAACO quote include painting the quarters? If so I would just do that, its a 12K car.
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I figured if they mess up or damage the car they will make have to make it right
They'll tell you it looks darn good to them, and what did you think it was going to look like for twelve hundred dollars including body work.
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The MAACO quote wasnt for the quarters. Im going to PDR them.
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Post the MAACO estimate. Let's see what they're up to.
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just let vlad fix it "his" was as he demonstrates in this video ...


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Going to Vlad would mean I have to but the new aluminum pieces($1050). Thats the cost of them pulling the unibody and the lip...
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I've always been quite good with computers. So i will figure out the system quickly.
Quite good at..... followed by anything automotive related coming from MBs55 seems like an oxymoron to me.
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The MAACO quote wasnt for the quarters. Im going to PDR them.
I'd LOVE to see this!! Please post a video of a guy trying to do PDR on your car if or when you ever get to that point. The paint likely already has spider cracks all over it from the creases (or it will once the frame is pulled), so PDR should be an interesting miracle to make it look good.
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Right quarter possibly, after the pull. I don't think the left is even borderline. The damage runs right through a crease. But if they can PDR the right, some labor and paint on the left won't be too expensive.
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nonsense. There are members that sell complete packages that you don't need to know anything about computers for. I bought my system previously used for $400 and it works right out of the box.

It also had developer mode where I can change coding on the vehicle, including the speed limiter.

As far as I'm concerned, in terms of home DIY, it is a panacea for owners of complex mb products
Seems for the 2010+, the developer feature cannot turn on all options in some without the MB computers. Also if one inadvertently tries to and establishes communicate/communication with the MB computers with a clone, the MB computers will send a set of "kill" directives and render the workstation useless. So if you get one - don't get on the web with that laptop. Only use it to communicate with your car.
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Nice buy brother!

I got my s550 for 23K. Seems like u got a great car for a good deal. Stay in touch cause I just got mine and am lookin to spice it up! We got twins!
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