Likes, dislikes & hopes on W223........
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This may be true, but I do feel as if Mercedes cut some things for cost. What happened to the Magic Sky Control? They've also reduced the rear seat configurations by half compared to the w222. Yes, they may have altered the packaging to reflect what is popular, but the S-Class should have more configurability than what they have limited it to.
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Yes, something tells me that the 2021 DOG will go through several revisions, as more and more options become available. I will be waiting until it all falls into place, which will probably mean waiting for the 2022 or 2023 models.
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Traditionally the SL has been Mercedes’ high level convertible similar to the S-Class level car but I have not considered it an S-Class with two seats.
Clearly a personal opinion but since we have had both a SL and S at the same time, it was easy to compare these cars. To me they are simply two cars with different level of tech and luxury.
The interior quality of our W140, the ride quality and solidity was simply on a different level than our R129, which in hindsight was a pretty noisy convertible with a good amount of flex (without hardtop) and so-so ride quality. I also did not consider it very luxurious. Our SL was also the same model year as the S (1994) and the SL sadly didn’t look like this. The interior was more bare bone.
Yet it is/was the best/safest convertible at the time.
Still interesting to see that Mercedes is sharing less parts between models than they used to.
Clearly a personal opinion but since we have had both a SL and S at the same time, it was easy to compare these cars. To me they are simply two cars with different level of tech and luxury.
The interior quality of our W140, the ride quality and solidity was simply on a different level than our R129, which in hindsight was a pretty noisy convertible with a good amount of flex (without hardtop) and so-so ride quality. I also did not consider it very luxurious. Our SL was also the same model year as the S (1994) and the SL sadly didn’t look like this. The interior was more bare bone.
Yet it is/was the best/safest convertible at the time.
Still interesting to see that Mercedes is sharing less parts between models than they used to.
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Not right now, I hope. Several options are not yet available to order, most notably, the E-Active Body Control suspension. There is no way that I would order a W223 without it. Then, what about those interior colors. WHERE is that gorgeous “saddle tan” interior shown in the “reveal” video? That cannot have been a “lighting” error as some have suggested, that is a color that they teased, but which is not yet available to order. To me, the W223 is not yet “ready for prime time!” Maybe in 2022 when they finally get all of the advertised and “teased” options available to order. Until then, I’m happy with a W222.
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Wasn't aware there were constraints on major options...granted it's always best to wait for the second year of production but my '19 BMW M850 has been great for its pioneer year. If I were planning on leasing a new S class, I wouldn't want to be tied into it for 3 years on a w222 though, and a one year lease usually doesn't make much sense, nor does paying cash for the same period. Therefore I'd wait until early next year when hopefully some of the more notable options missing are more likely to appear and go for the 223.
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Magnificent ajm0626. Your lunar blue is a slightly lighter, clear coated version of the famous DB904 midnight blue that I have on my W201. It's a stunning color that imho shows off any MB at it's best. I totally understand why you went with the W222. You will love that color. I wish you many happy miles.
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Traditionally the SL has been Mercedes’ high level convertible similar to the S-Class level car but I have not considered it an S-Class with two seats.
Clearly a personal opinion but since we have had both a SL and S at the same time, it was easy to compare these cars. To me they are simply two cars with different level of tech and luxury.
The interior quality of our W140, the ride quality and solidity was simply on a different level than our R129, which in hindsight was a pretty noisy convertible with a good amount of flex (without hardtop) and so-so ride quality. I also did not consider it very luxurious. Our SL was also the same model year as the S (1994) and the SL sadly didn’t look like this. The interior was more bare bone.
Yet it is/was the best/safest convertible at the time.
Still interesting to see that Mercedes is sharing less parts between models than they used to.
Clearly a personal opinion but since we have had both a SL and S at the same time, it was easy to compare these cars. To me they are simply two cars with different level of tech and luxury.
The interior quality of our W140, the ride quality and solidity was simply on a different level than our R129, which in hindsight was a pretty noisy convertible with a good amount of flex (without hardtop) and so-so ride quality. I also did not consider it very luxurious. Our SL was also the same model year as the S (1994) and the SL sadly didn’t look like this. The interior was more bare bone.
Yet it is/was the best/safest convertible at the time.
Still interesting to see that Mercedes is sharing less parts between models than they used to.
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I assume you are stating these criticisms to justify your opinion being mainstream 
First off, the W222 was well received in the US and worldwide except many forum members here who felt the car was too Asian looking, not muscular enough (aka no wheel arches), that it looks just too generic. Later on it was added that one can’t tell the C class apart from the E class or S class. Clown face steering wheel reminisced to a late 60’s Lincoln, etc. Oh, they also complained about the tail lights...
The W223 is very well received by the Germans. We’ll see what others in the US will think but my assumption is that the center screen will be the only point of contention.
I loved our W222 S550 and considered it the best looking S-Class of all times. Now the W223 looks very similar, but more modern and uptodate (to me). Definitely a much prettier silhouette and roof line. I also like the refreshed interior better apart from the center console/trim and color options, all of which will be sorted out.
First off, the W222 was well received in the US and worldwide except many forum members here who felt the car was too Asian looking, not muscular enough (aka no wheel arches), that it looks just too generic. Later on it was added that one can’t tell the C class apart from the E class or S class. Clown face steering wheel reminisced to a late 60’s Lincoln, etc. Oh, they also complained about the tail lights...
The W223 is very well received by the Germans. We’ll see what others in the US will think but my assumption is that the center screen will be the only point of contention.
I loved our W222 S550 and considered it the best looking S-Class of all times. Now the W223 looks very similar, but more modern and uptodate (to me). Definitely a much prettier silhouette and roof line. I also like the refreshed interior better apart from the center console/trim and color options, all of which will be sorted out.
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Okay, gentlemen and ladies. What is known about the auto pilot of the W223? The refreshed W222 drove itself for about a minute before the steering wheel needed a touch. Also, I hope the W223 can go on its own after a complete stop on many more roads. The refreshed W222 has been hit and miss. Please provide me with some details.
I will likely order the new generation around August, 2021 about the time my current lease expires.
I will likely order the new generation around August, 2021 about the time my current lease expires.
