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I drove a new BMW I7 and…….

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I recall. In fairness, I have my gripes with every car. I greatly disliked the fake piano black in the 580 for instance, it the ridiculously ineffectual seat ventilation in the current car. A lot of people think the 911 is perfect, I never liked the look from the rear, and depending on the year, any perspective. It's a long list, which I hope will continue to grow; it means I lived long enough to sample another car.

I could live with the crystal, it's mostly the front that makes me wince. Better on the EV, and I mean no insult when I say it's not for me, but it's not.
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@Streamliner Have you considered the latest gen Panamera E-Hybrid's with Porsche Active Ride? The facelifted Taycan also offers it as an option but the Taycan's build quality is so poor. I was in my friend's the other day and the interior squeaks so much when driving, just day to day city driving and not even accelerating hard.

BMW's AC and climate comfort glass has always been an issue. Anything above blower speed 2 is way too loud in my 7 and leaving the car in the sun for even just an hour feels like a sauna. Max AC takes forever to cool down the interior to a comfortable level. The IR reflecting glass from MB, especially the one with a metallic blue sheen on an S class or an older X164 GL550 rejects heat so much better
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Originally Posted by 5634MG
@Streamliner Have you considered the latest gen Panamera E-Hybrid's with Porsche Active Ride? The facelifted Taycan also offers it as an option but the Taycan's build quality is so poor. I was in my friend's the other day and the interior squeaks so much when driving, just day to day city driving and not even accelerating hard.

BMW's AC and climate comfort glass has always been an issue. Anything above blower speed 2 is way too loud in my 7 and leaving the car in the sun for even just an hour feels like a sauna. Max AC takes forever to cool down the interior to a comfortable level. The IR reflecting glass from MB, especially the one with a metallic blue sheen on an S class or an older X164 GL550 rejects heat so much better
I have not considered the Panamera in any variation. To me, they are four door sports cars and I have never really cared for them, but thanks for the suggestion.
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Just to be clear, this is the most successful 7 Series in a long time, and it is outselling the S Class which never happens. So clearly, lots of people disagree.
That is shocking.... and interesting...

According to the numbers I can find:

The new G12 model introduced in 2016 sold 13,000 units in the US that year.

The new G70 model introduced in 2023 sold 11,000 units in the US that year.

And in 2024, we are almost to September, they have sold 5,000 units in the US so far this year.

Care to share your stats...?

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Originally Posted by SW20S
Just to be clear, this is the most successful 7 Series in a long time, and it is outselling the S Class which never happens. So clearly, lots of people disagree.
but the 7 series figures includes the i7 right?
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