sick430

Hey guys quick question regarding transmission swaps. I am swapping my 430 for a 55 next week, however I have a transmission out of an 03 supercharged CL55 that uses 52 TCU. My questions is will it work with my older 2000 clk430 ME2.0? I don't want to start switching tcu's as that causes other issues. What if change transmissions but swap the electronic boards? Thanks guys.

kaype

ME2.0 wont work with EGS52.
ME2.8 Works with both, EGS51 and EGS52.

greetings, Fabian

cm60k

Fabian,

Some tuners said; it's possible to reprogram ME2.8 with EGS52 if changing the diff. ratio..!,

is this can be done with STAR/SDS..?

ZAYED,,

kaype

ME2.8 and EGS52 is no Problem. i once tried a EGS52 in a car with ME2.0 but the ME2.0 wont recognize the EGS52, we had to use the EGS51 again.

Diffratio cant be changed via SD, my diffratio was changed by renntech.

Only thing you can do, for example, is to code W210 E320CDI to a W210 E270CDI and change the diff from 2.82 to 2.65 ... but this is the only combination i know that works.

As i installed the 722.643 Speedshift transmission i switched my diff to 2.65 and used a W211 E55 EGS52 for testing ... W211 e55 also have 2.65 diff ratio, that worked fine.

greetings

cm60k

For Example; if i get late model of W210 E430 or E55, can i switch the diff. ratio to 3.27 or 3.46, if so, coding is the puzzled then, isn't..?

ZAYED,,

kaype

that needs to be hardcoded in the egs itself, that cant be done via SD. Dont ask me how this is done, i only can say that renntech made this for me. first they changed ratio on the w211 e55 egs from 2.65 to 2.82 to fit my original e55 diff and then with the speedshift+ setup i got a clk-dtm with the 2.82 rear diff ratio. dont know what ratio this software has originaly, i guess the clk-dtm has 3.06 diff ratio stock.

when i hook up the sd to my car the diagnosis now says "egs defect" because of the checksum is different then it should be...

greetings, fabian

cm60k

Yeah Expect that..,

almost 90% of tuners like to escape from this..

ZAYED,,

sick430

cool, thanks for the info. Would I be able to use the AMG transmission if I pull the electronics from mine and swap them? Would also swap solenoids so that I would keep the AMG ones for faster shifts.

Thanks

kaype

Please be more specific ...

You want to use a AMG Transmission ... WHAT AMG Transmission? 722.636, 722.643?
"Electronics from mine"? ... what is "mine"? the conveted 430 so you allready have AMG TCU/ECU?
What Solenoids do you want to change? there are no "AMG" Solenoids.

greetings, Fabian

sick430

Hi, thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion.

I would like to use the transmission and solenoids from a 2003 CL55 (722.643???). And us the electronic board (body) from my 2000 CLK430 transmission (ME2.0, 722.623).

Thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion.
Liran

kaype

This wont work well... shifting would be extrem jerky i guess.

Mixing up ME2.0 with Speedshifthardware is no good idea.

greetings, Fabian

Bwe6ton

I have another TCU which is EGS52 which I checked was the correct one but the car doesn't accept the part.

kaype

ME2.0?

EGS52 wont work with ME2.0!

cm60k

Fabian,

In your opinion; any solution to let the ECU/TCU recognizing 3.27 or 3.46..?

ZAYED,,

kaype

hmn ... the E420 / E50 had a 3.27 diff ratio ... maybe this EGS works but thats really old

cm60k

Good find Fabian,

usually E420 got 2.82, but 3.27 is for special Edition only, hard to find E420 3.27 EGS, cause it's the only V8 that has 3.27..!

i heard all V6 M112's EGS can be swappable,

it's great idea if we can find 3.27 EGS from E420 with EGS, and try it in all other M113's,,

what do you think..?

sick430

Thanks for the info Fabian,

I thought that the speedshift was software with different solenoids?

Your input is very much appreciated!!!! Love what you have done with the car.

kaype

Nope, the whole electro-hydraulic-part of the transmission is different and the speedshift transmissions have tighter clutches, at least they have 6 rings per clutch and not 5.

dont know exactly when the EGS was switched from 51 to 52. My 2001 E55 didnt hat a egs52, the one a friedn bought several weeks ago had one.

I dont want to try any egs51 in my cars ... they are simply to old

My parents have a EGS51 with 3.07 ratio and AMG Software in their E55 4matic... it has a sticker on it "no standard transmission control unit" or something like that

kaype

Some new Pictures... a friend of mine did a tremendous job on polishing and sealing my car with some nano sealing from "Koch Chemie". Great stuff thou

i also got my smaller S/C Pulley from Eurocharged. After a little math i came up with "172mm Crank Pulley + -6mm S/C Pulley" = "185mm Crank Pulley" ... what is a lot. I will do some testdrives the next days and see how much preasure i got now. Only with the 172mm Crank Pulleyy i had 0.85bar.

Here are the Pics:













































greetins, Fabian

ddb

Your car looks fantastic! Great pictures!

Pagz

Top work Fabian.. the 55K looks like it was always there

KJI3jflarryfe93

car looks like new, better than a original w210

btw
when you replaced your factory front calipers did you also replace the brake master cylinder taken from the same car the 6 pot calipers came from?
or do you still use the same E430 factory brake master cylinder with 6 pot calipers?

kaype

Hi,

thanks all :-)

No, i using the W220 S55 brake booster and brake cylinder. The E430/E55 (was the same) didnt really work out with the large calipers. With the W220 AMG Stuff its like throwing an anchor out of the window

cm60k

Great work with FABULOUS Bride Fabian..

Do you mean W220 n/a S55 or S55K..?

ZAYED,,

kaype

As i dismanteld a S55 S/C i mean this model of course

I placed the brake booster and the brake cylinder from the car the engine came from in my car. fits perfectly... you´ll just need to bend new brake lines to the ESP Module.