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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Sounds good. Any acceleration videos from outside the car?
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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Sounds good. Any acceleration videos from outside the car?
Coming soon...
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Wow that sounds awesome! Thanks for doing the interior/cabin videos, I love the sound of the burbly V8. I'm thinking of removing at least the resonator to get a similar sound.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 05:19 AM
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Wow that sounds awesome! Thanks for doing the interior/cabin videos, I love the sound of the burbly V8. I'm thinking of removing at least the resonator to get a similar sound.
Go for it! Unleash the Beast!
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Thought I would post this photo for the people who are curious about the resonator/secondary cat positioning, in regard to the removal modification I, and several others have performed on their W210's. I took this photo during the process of my modification.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Just a suggestion, why don't you get a pair of AFE Pro Dry S filters for your upper intake. That's one of the cheapest way to produce more power, 5 to 10hp without too much work.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 03:11 AM
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Just a suggestion, why don't you get a pair of AFE Pro Dry S filters for your upper intake. That's one of the cheapest way to produce more power, 5 to 10hp without too much work.
Do they genuinely free up that much extra power!?
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:35 AM
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Most of the gains are from the top end. It makes the powerband a lot smoother. No more coking where your engine trying to suck hard for air. At 80 miles on wards, you can hear the air been suck in to the engine. These are better then the K&N as you don't have to oil them. All you have to do is run the vacuum thru every time you change your oil. I got might, when I bought the carbon airbox. You will not be dissatisfied with them.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:37 AM
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Most of the gains are from the top end. It makes the powerband a lot smoother. No more coking where your engine trying to suck hard for air. At 80 miles on wards, you can hear the air been suck in to the engine. These are better then the K&N as you don't have to oil them. All you have to do is run the vacuum thru every time you change your oil. I got might, when I bought the carbon airbox. You will not be dissatisfied with them.
SOLD! To the man in the White E55
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Just came off the phone to a guy named Adam who is staff for a company called Euro Charged. We're basically going through the motions of getting an ECU/TCU tune for the E55

We'll run the car on a Dyno both before and after the remap, so we can accurately show the results of their work.

Of course I'll make sure I cover the entire process on video
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by M3RC3D3SE55AMG
Just came off the phone to a guy named Adam who is staff for a company called Euro Charged. We're basically going through the motions of getting an ECU/TCU tune for the E55

We'll run the car on a Dyno both before and after the remap, so we can accurately show the results of their work.

Of course I'll make sure I cover the entire process on video

It's well worth it. I had mine done with Logic Lab Tuning out of Chicago. I have to take my ecu out and mail it to them. The shifting and remapping makes the gears all so much smoother and responsive, going thru the transmission. Also, they took the delimiter out, hence my engine has no speed limit


IMO, I think you should put the headers in before the tune as you do not want to retune the engine again after you put the headers in later. I paid USD249.00 for the ecu tuning. Not sure how much Euro Charged cost for theirs. I think it was a good deal and have no regret on it. You will not be disappointed. The only thing I regret is that I haven't had a chance to do a dyno on my car yet.


Here's the link on the ecu and the header thread that I started awhile back....

https://mbworld.org/forums/5634509-post129.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...s-headers.html
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by snooozie
It's well worth it. I had mine done with Logic Lab Tuning out of Chicago. I have to take my ecu out and mail it to them. The shifting and remapping makes the gears all so much smoother and responsive, going thru the transmission. Also, they took the delimiter out, hence my engine has no speed limit


IMO, I think you should put the headers in before the tune as you do not want to retune the engine again after you put the headers in later. I paid USD249.00 for the ecu tuning. Not sure how much Euro Charged cost for theirs. I think it was a good deal and have no regret on it. You will not be disappointed. The only thing I regret is that I haven't had a chance to do a dyno on my car yet.


Here's the link on the ecu and the header thread that I started awhile back....

https://mbworld.org/forums/5634509-post129.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...s-headers.html
I was thinking the same thing, to get the tune after the headers, but Euro Charged were offering free retunes after any full initial purchase. I'll double check this is the case, and if so, I'll just keep remapping as upgrades progress
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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If they give lifetime free retunes, then it's well worth it to go with them. My tuning is the last thing I have done to my car....basically mod out as far as NA E55 goes
I don't plan on supercharging it, so this is it
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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If they give lifetime free retunes, then it's well worth it to go with them. My tuning is the last thing I have done to my car....basically mod out as far as NA E55 goes
I don't plan on supercharging it, so this is it
Nice! I'll update here as soon as I know what I'm doing
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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Just use the stock W211 E55 supercharger. Plenty for sale on EBay last time I've checked. It requires quite a few mods and not an easy task but can be done. If you search I believe I read some info about this...
Great mids think alike! I had some very constructive advise from MBWorld member ZAYED, and he said to use the Eaton S/C as well. With the right supporting modifications, we can see great results.

The shopping list is growing daily for this part of my project. I already have a very low milage S/C I'm negotiating a price on, and I just had confirmation back on turnaround times for my custom low-compression Mahle piston and ring set.

I'll make sure I keep posting updates, videos and photos
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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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EuroCharged remap is all paid for. Dyno sessions will be booked once I have time and I'll perform runs pre-remap and post-remap, so we can see the level of power increase. I'll have the headers fitted after the first remap, then another remap with them fitted to keep a record of any further power increases. I plan to do all this before Christmas... Just after Christmas, we'll look to get the S/C part of the project underway
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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I have pics but don't want to post them. Will wait for Weistec to announce it when they are 100% done. Fitment and fabrication is perfect and it looks so professional as with anything they do. They even power coated my valve covers for free! It looks beautiful.
I understand. It's interesting you have got such a good service from Weistec for your conversion. I couldn't even get them to return emails or calls. I guess you being in the States, and able to physically go to see them makes a big difference. They're not only making money from you on the parts, but also on the in-house labour costs too, so that qualifies you for a "good service".

Needless to say, I'm sure it will look and perform very well! You had an N/A engine prior to this correct? It's not an M113K upgrade, it's an M113 conversion? Also, who is doing your remap once everything is plumbed in?
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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M3RC3D3SE55AMG,

Do you know if anyone ever attempted a W211 supercharged motor and tranny swap into a W210?

That would be an interesting setup if it would fit.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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Do you know if anyone ever attempted a W211 supercharged motor and tranny swap into a W210?

That would be an interesting setup if it would fit.
People have discussed that very topic elsewhere on this forum. Do a search and you're sure to find the answers to your questions. In short, the mechanics is the easy part, it's the electronics (wiring loom) which complicates things.

Considering the main differences in the motor are forged internals, some plumbing and the S/C itself, it's much easier to just supercharge your W210 than do the transplant you speak of.

The transmission in the W210 and W211 are the same as far as I am aware, it's how it is controlled (TCU etc) which may differ?

I'm only speaking from knowledge I've gained from doing my own research and asking questions myself, so I hope this reply helps and good luck with finding your answers
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Considering the main differences in the motor are forged internals, some plumbing and the S/C itself, it's much easier to just supercharge your W210 than do the transplant you speak of.
The 211 E55 has cast pistons.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan04mcs
M3RC3D3SE55AMG,

Do you know if anyone ever attempted a W211 supercharged motor and tranny swap into a W210?

That would be an interesting setup if it would fit.
I believe that it's not efficient in terms of cost and result, getting a W211 is better
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Originally Posted by M3RC3D3SE55AMG

Considering the main differences in the motor are forged internals, some plumbing and the S/C itself, it's much easier to just supercharge your W210 than do the transplant you speak of.
Totally agree!
I've done a few engine transplants over the years and they never go as easy or cheap as you think they will.
My question was of curiosity not intent

What compression ratio are you aiming for with the custom pistons?
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The 211 E55 has cast pistons.
You are right! I got the setup the wrong way around. We have forged, the W211 is cast but with low compression. My apologies on that.

I'm looking at Mahle customs for myself. Looking around 9.5 compression on those for my setup...
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As i know; all M113K internals are steel forged, with lighter alloy pistons,,

http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/W208-4.html

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As i know; all M113K internals are steel forged, with lighter alloy pistons,,

http://www.marcusfitzhugh.com/CLK/W208-4.html

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As always, you have the information not the speculation Thanks Zayed!
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