hamann69

Any stock E55's run stock SL55's? What was the outcome?

Can Drive 55

My stock E55 ran even with a modded SL55, so my guess is the E is a bit faster than the SL

hamann69

what was done to the SL?

SoS SWATxV2

Not too many races of either against each other at all...unless somebody can search and find one...

Mercedes is supposed to make their SL AMG flagship the fastest of the classes/AMGs.

Um. My bet is on the SL if there was a legitimate NOT staged race.

DFW01E55

On the 'E' board, the E wins!

Guess who wins on the SL board?

PS. Over on the CL board, the CL chews up modified C6 Z06's and modified 997TT's.

You wouldn't expect any different, would you?

derrick_lui

The SL55 according to my knowledge is around 42xx pounds and the E55 is around 40xx pounds.

mbenzman

The SL never was the quickest of the two due to it being the heavier car. The 500E was quicker than the SL500 because it was lighter. I also would not call the SL55 Mercedes Benz's flagship. Most would argue the S600 or the SLR would be the Mercedes flagships. Then you have AMG cars, of which you have the SL65, CL65 or the S65 as the top dogs. Most people would probably say the S65 is the AMG flagship.

Of a straight up race between the SL55 and the E55, I would lay my $ on the E.

AKnight55

e55 would win no question!

BigApe

I've posted a performance chart below that should settle it

Also,--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLLsK4TiBpU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YaHyBnf7P8

Sunny55

I have owned both....yes, the e55 is lighter and does feel a lil quicker from my butt dyno. I have never raced an e55 in the sl55, but I have raced an sl55 in the e55 before. I won by a quite a few car lengths, then again, I had evo stage 2.....

Stock verse stock, I would put my money on the e55.

SoS SWATxV2

Ahh... weight smeight!

Sure, it might a little bit heavier (200 pounds? WHY Mercedes?) but didn't they intentionally detune the E55's engine to 469 Horsepower due to the fact if it had 493 horses like the SL, CL, S, etc AMGs, it would be faster than them?

They detuned it so at least it have to be pretty even between them or not slower. That's I heard, not what I know...

And I wasn't saying the SL55 as the flagship of MB, I meant the SL class in general. Still though, Mercedes has many high end top cars so there can't really be a "flagship" hmm?

Fantasm

so does anyone really know WHAT makes the SL55 that much slower? I see stock E55's running 11.9's... the fastest stock SL55 i've heard of is 12.4-12.5 with both of those times being achieved by me as well, but nothing quicker in stock form.
So what would it take, not including engine mods to make it as quick as an E55 while in mechnically stock form?
Do those 2xx pounds really make a .6 of a second difference in 1/4 mile times?? I highly doubt it, but then what?

CynCarvin32

I had both and did a couple runs a while back on the freeway and the E55 was a bit quicker. The SL55 has a 2.82 rear end to make up for its extra 200 lbs but the E55 still is faster with its downgraded 2.65 rear end.

Up to say 130 or 140 it was about a 1 car length difference.

My E55 felt a fair bit quicker. Not sure it was just the weight. I just think my E55 was a stronger pick of the litter.

Can Drive 55

Sorry for the delay.

He had a RENNtech pulley, headers, air box, and ECU. It already had the larger TB, since it was the 510 HP version.

juicee63

The weight costs about .2
the weight and the transfer of the weight is what slows the SL.

An average E class will do 12.4
An Average SL class will do 12.6

E 55 is faster unless you make the weight = then betch the cars are the same , so much for the detuned E 55 theory

IngenereAMG

There are so many debates on this. I own a SL55 and I have driven a number of stock E55s.....before we set them up and I am pretty sure that MB underrated the E's engine....they are the same motors and the lighterweight, sure made the E55 feel quicker.

Here is a comparison done by a German magazine when the SL55 forst came out...it's very interesting.

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...3&d=1172289558

Fast55

The E55 was only detuned on paper. It has been proven through many dyno runs that the 2 cars make essentially identical power. My '06 made 435 RWHP, bone stock down to the air filters. That is far more than 469 crank HP. Vadim can attest to the dyno numbers.

SoS SWATxV2

Well then... if that's the case that Mercedes "lied" to us that the E had 469 horses,

I'm about to SELL MY STOCK SL55 AMG! Am I kidding? You guess!


Oh wait a sec... WHY JUST WHY would a SEDAN like an E be heavier than 2 passenger roadster?

Shouldn't the E class actually be heavier than the SL? Why is it the other way around?

BMWEATR

I've got it on with a SL 55 on the freeway, I slowly pulled away.

Murtaza

Convertibles need more high strength steel in the center to makeup for the rigidity a normal roof provides. The SL also has the whole retractable hardtop assembly and I'm sure thats not too light...

It's still impressive that it weighs less then an M6 vert

As for E55 vs SL55, the E is faster. I've raced an SL55 in my buds CLS63 and won by almost a car up to around 80.

SoS SWATxV2

Okay that's it.

Time for a Chevrolet Corvette Z06 C6!

sack5000

This is strictly a weight issue what is there to consider....?

SoS SWATxV2

That paying 120,000 back in 2002 for a SL55 AMG and now to be dethroned as the 2nd fastest Mercedes by a cheaper E55 AMG?

Then again, it's still an amazing vehicle to drive and be in... but yet you get what you pay for right?

I've always thought and agreed that the SL55 AMG was always a wee little bit faster than the E by a car length if not both the same...

Fast55

It's not, and it never was. If you were worried about being the fastest, you should have bought a 65. No 55 is even close, stock for stock. It takes a highly modified 55 anything to keep up with a stock 65.

jmf003

Part of the reason for the extra weight is Mercedes reinforces the undercarriage so that the SL55 body remains stiff in spite of lacking a fixed roof.

BMW's M6 has the same issue. The M6 fixed roof coupe weighs 3,909 lbs. The M6 convertible weighs 4,398 lbs and that's with a cloth top!