BlackHammer

Just read the stats on this car (0-100 in 9.8 BTW). Pretty impressive (are the #'s near identical with the C&D #'s on a stock E55?)!

5.0 V8 - 415HP
8-Speed Auto
$60K (US)
"Terminator" Engine look with the plastic cover off the engine (I literally LOL'ed - in a good way - when I saw the picture with the plastic off)

The F versions interst me (I own and have owned lots of Lexus' - my wife hates the M-B. Oh, BTW in 600K miles of driving Lexus' and only 3-4 unplanned trips for service, and I get a Lexus loaner).

Rumor is out a 500 HP V-10 is possible for the GS. I hope they bring it to the LS, too! I may be "in"...

TK

deaguero

I once owned a GS430, it was a boat! they will never get the handling down and they will be a generation behind Audi, BMW and AMG in performance period! Just look at the specs on the upcoming C63, the IS-F just isn't going to cut it

They had their chance against the W211 E55 and E60 M5 but it just passed them by! too bad!

TopGun32

those are the best published numbers so far..

Edmunds ran one.. at 13.0 and trap around 110

others have been around that same figure

110 to 112 should be a good standard deviation.

stock vs stock.. its going to come down to the driver of the IS-F.. too many gears.



The 416 hp is just a marketing figure.. probably more like 430-440hp.

Getting more power out of this engine..is going to be expensive, not much aftermarket support.

I like the overall package.. too bad the back seats are not that great.

I rather have this engine on the GS... despite the additional weight.

SLK55R

not excited about this car at all.

Addicted2Speed

I'm just being a devil's advocate here... IS-F is actually lighter than C63, so its less of a boat than "C63". Plus Lexus never brakes down period, so if you want a car that will never go to a dealer and you're willing to sacrifice some performance for reliability, its a great choice. A lot of people would rather have a better built car and better dealer network/service than 50hp more...

mosesgolf

I hope they decide to make a GS-F to wake up the AMG and M boys.

Exodus

Near identical?

Sure, give or take a second.

DFW01E55

I don't think I'd be so quick to write them off. Nobody gets it right on the first attempt and the Japanese have brought a lot of refinement to cars over the years.

JDM_SXE-10

True, the Lexus marque has only been around for a few years compared to some of the other manufacturers. They have also grown up quite a bit in the short amount of time that they've been around. This is only the second generation of the IS and this is only the first engine in F trim. This is not bad at all considering these circumstances.

III II I I AMG

its a toyota, blah... i told my friends i would never go back to a japanese car again, but now i might have to think that over, ever since this car was advertised, ive been considering it.. we'll see what happens, but 8 gears, thats quite awful lot of gears, dont think i can get used to that.. since i dont like driving in auto.. i like to shift

MB_Forever

Actually, my local dealer told me there is a GS-F with 500+ hp in the works and may be announed as early as fall of next year

05VENOM

My 63 has been to service 4x's in the first 9 months, my 545i 3x (for a total of 6 weeks, they made a lease payment for me) in the first 4 months. My previous 4 Lexus, only once and it was for a manifold upgrade that really didn't need replacing. Now they are trying to compete with the AMG and M cars. Won't be long before they are sitting on top of the hill.

psk145

I would switch back over to a Lexus in a heartbeat if they had something on par with the E55. We had a 98 LX470 with 230K miles on it and it never had any major issues. Only service really needed was oil changes. Swapped it for an 06 QX56 which has been equally reliable, but the 98 LX still had a nicer interior in my opinion.

Vic55

Impressive ......................................for a Lexus.

I worked for Lexus for 9 years, it was never about performance- always refinement and isolation. A reliable product, yes. An engaging one, no.

This car will be the most aggressive yet.

Japanese refinement, German engineering- now if we could make a hybrid of that??

GDawgC220

Still find the quad exhaust funny. In a recent article, it was stated "for asthetic purposes only" and showed a pic of them from the side that looked in. The quad exhaust tips aren't connected to everything, just one muffler on each side behind the quad tips.

tommy25000

just that is enough to make me steer clear. that is

Exodus

I'd rather buy a Toyota Camry/Corolla switch badges to Lexus and save a couple G's while remaining the wiser.

I actually looked at the IS350 just to see what it can do, I of course had to go to a Toyota delear and I must say, not impressed. The Toyota however, with it's cheaper price tag and virtually identical features (doesn't that bother anyone buying a Lexus?) was a bargain.

I liked almost everything better on the Toyota then the Lexus. Minus the badge which it itself is a quick fix, not that I would be interested.

Paying an extra premuim just to have that badge is ridiculous. The IS-F, you shall see, will fall victim to many; E55, M5, RS4 included. To think AMG/M/RS fans here and other places are sweating about it is a bit comical.

BlackHammer

Really?

#'s on the CLS55, M5, and STS-V Comparison in Car and Driver...

The CLS could get by on looks alone, but there’s obviously more to it than that. There’s power, for example. The key distinguishing element between the CLS500 and CLS55 AMG is under the hood, wherein resides a supercharged and intercooled 5.4-liter SOHC 24-valve V-8. We’ve seen this engine in AMG powerhouses before, notably the E55, and like other boosted Benz engines, it’s a leering torque monster. Horsepower — 469 at 6100 rpm — ain’t exactly peanuts, but 516 pound-feet of torque is enough to affect the rotation of the earth. Peak torque comes on at 2650 rpm, and there’s enough of it to cover for the relative shortage of forward cogs in the five-speed automatic transmission and also to get the CLS out of the starting blocks in a serious hurry: 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds, 0 to 100 in 9.8, the quarter-mile in 12.6 at 114 mph. That’s Corvette turf, and pretty brisk for a two-ton car.

i wish I had this mag - the 0-150 # is close (maybe within a second but does it matter at this speed???

DFW01E55

Okay, you have established your standing as a Lexus hater.

I don't see anybody "sweating" about the new Lexus focus.
I do see people making reasonable comments about how one of the top quality luxury car companies in the world might make out with their foray into performance cars.

howie

toyota has nothing on a Lexus. I'd take a Lexus anyday. They're great looking, quality, fast, reliable cars and the IS F will be a beast!!!

Vic55

No sweat here bro and based on other posts I dont know who is. And tell me this, what Lexus is the same as a Toyota? Even one that may share the same platform is miles ahead in fit and finish plus amenities.

There is only one Lexus car (non sport ute) that shares the same platform as Toyota. Can you name it?

SLK55R

It has nothing to do with it being a japanese car. I'm excited about the Skyline and other japanese cars. Its just the IS-F that to me is boring.

AMGfan

Speaking of the GTR (sorry for the tangent)...what kind of markup do think that the stealerships are going to ask for? I just read the early mfg#'s and they are stating 0-60 in 3.5s !

DFW01E55

Don't take it personally, my response wasn't quoting anything that you said.

mosesgolf

I havn't had any problems w/ my M5 yet (24k miles) but there is no way in hell this car is staying in my garage after 50k miles. W/ that said, previous to the M5, I had a GS400 that was driven to 150,000 miles virtually trouble free. It was every bit as solid and drivable as the 1st day it was picked up. Lexus knows how to make cars. When they do release a GS-F and if the hp #'s are comparable to the AMG and M cars, I'm buyin.