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Old May 4, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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No, they are telling you that after 1 yr and 5 months.

I wondered why the quad turbos and not doing the turbo replacement for bigger ones?
There's no room for bigger turbo's in stock location, only possibility is to upgrade/replace the wheels in the stock turbo's as they've done in the latest 2009 SL65 BS.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Yes Vadim made it clear, that I would have to cut up the engine compartment and the shock towers to get bigger turbos to fit in the stock location..

That's why the decision was made to just add the 2 larger turbos in the rear, as I didn't want to be cutting up my car..
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Thats really dissapointing to hear...and now you're selling it. Did you get to enjoy the 65 at all?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by New2this
Yes Vadim made it clear, that I would have to cut up the engine compartment and the shock towers to get bigger turbos to fit in the stock location..

That's why the decision was made to just add the 2 larger turbos in the rear, as I didn't want to be cutting up my car..
I needed to clarify, what is your VRP825 tune set @ 100 oct? 105? or 93?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by New2this
I have the car back..
The project had to be abandoned..
Way too much drama for me..
The car runs OK.. to be totally honest, I'm not 100% satified with how it is running.. pretty frustrated actually..
Wow man, sorry to hear that your project had to be abandoned and you had to deal with some drama!!

I was looking forward to seeing your project completed and put down some serious numbers!!

So that's it.... you're frustrated and not 100% satisfied with how it is running and now you're selling it...

Regardless, you deserve a Huge for your efforts, time, and cash for trying such a project!!
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Havoc
Wow man, sorry to hear that your project had to be abandoned and you had to deal with some drama!!

I was looking forward to seeing your project completed and put down some serious numbers!!

So that's it.... you're frustrated and not 100% satisfied with how it is running and now you're selling it...

Regardless, you deserve a Huge for your efforts, time, and cash for trying such a project!!
off topic but how is yours running?

I mena have oyu comapred it to other modded 55k cars?
dynoed it?
tracked it?

Thanks
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Old May 5, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Zod
off topic but how is yours running?

I mena have oyu comapred it to other modded 55k cars?
dynoed it?
tracked it?

Thanks
Zod, my 5.7L is still disassembled up in Canada. I had some issues with the motor and decided to sell the project back to Victor. I then later decided to continue with it, but requested to get the heads changed. The bottom is together, we're just waiting for the new heads to be resurfaced and assembled. The shop just laid off some workers so the head work keeps getting pushed back. Vadim says he can get all the mods on and completed in 2 months once he receives the motor. Until then, it’s just a waiting game…
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Havoc
Zod, my 5.7L is still disassembled up in Canada. I had some issues with the motor and decided to sell the project back to Victor. I then later decided to continue with it, but requested to get the heads changed. The bottom is together, we're just waiting for the new heads to be resurfaced and assembled. The shop just laid off some workers so the head work keeps getting pushed back. Vadim says he can get all the mods on and completed in 2 months once he receives the motor. Until then, it’s just a waiting game…
You mind sharing some of the details...what type of pistons, rods, Cams, valves you are using? Project sounds interesting but too long. Thanks.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
You mind sharing some of the details...what type of pistons, rods, Cams, valves you are using? Project sounds interesting but too long. Thanks.
The 5.7L bottom consists of a Sleeved 5.5K block bored .2L over, knife edged stock crank, stock rods, Mahle custom forged pistons, and ported oil pump.

The 55K heads consists of aggressive porting, oversized Ferrea valves, 3 angle valve job, titanium seats, and VRP cams.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Havoc
The 5.7L bottom consists of a Sleeved 5.5K block bored .2L over, knife edged stock crank, stock rods, Mahle custom forged pistons, and ported oil pump.

The 55K heads consists of aggressive porting, oversized Ferrea valves, 3 angle valve job, titanium seats, and VRP cams.
Hey Havoc:

Do you mean titanium seats or retainers above.

Thanks

See yeah

PS: Are you going with ANY aftermarket ARP, Manley, etc fastners as well. With all the money you are spending, I was guessing you are going to buy ALL aftermarket fastners. GOOD LUCK
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MRAMG1
Do you mean titanium seats or retainers above.
PS: Are you going with ANY aftermarket ARP, Manley, etc fastners as well. With all the money you are spending, I was guessing you are going to buy ALL aftermarket fastners. GOOD LUCK
Yes, my bad, titanium retainers and we are using aftermarket fastners on some of the bottom parts.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Are the rods that strong that you are keeping stock rods? What do you plan on reving the car to?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Are the rods that strong that you are keeping stock rods? What do you plan on reving the car to?

Yes, the stock rods are very strong. I spoke to different people about them and as long as we keep the RPMs close to the stock RPMs, then they will hold up. I want to keep the revs stock so there is no need to upgrade the rods unless I want to lighten up the bottom further. I was looking into that, but it would have added additional time to the build, which by now I don't think would have mattered...
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Old May 5, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Old May 5, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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wow...
if i waited over a year for 1000hp and then end up gettin' 825hp instead, i'd be dissatisfied...
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Old May 5, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Havoc
The 5.7L bottom consists of a Sleeved 5.5K block bored .2L over, knife edged stock crank, stock rods, Mahle custom forged pistons, and ported oil pump.

The 55K heads consists of aggressive porting, oversized Ferrea valves, 3 angle valve job, titanium seats, and VRP cams.
Havoc - just out of curiosity (and not to be nit-picky!), but doesn't the M113K motor have a displacement of 5.4L (5439cc)?

If so, is your motor now at ~5.6L or is it bored more than 0.2L to give 5.7L?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Havoc
Yes, the stock rods are very strong. I spoke to different people about them and as long as we keep the RPMs close to the stock RPMs, then they will hold up. I want to keep the revs stock so there is no need to upgrade the rods unless I want to lighten up the bottom further. I was looking into that, but it would have added additional time to the build, which by now I don't think would have mattered...
Vadim told me to keep the rods stock as well but he polished them to strenghten them and prevent cracks from forming. I wanted to pay for titanium rods and he advised against it since the rpms will remain stock also.

However, he rehoned the entire block/bottom end instead of sleeving it.

Is Vadim still working on Victor's projects?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by boohooramblers
Havoc - just out of curiosity (and not to be nit-picky!), but doesn't the M113K motor have a displacement of 5.4L (5439cc)?

If so, is your motor now at ~5.6L or is it bored more than 0.2L to give 5.7L?
It's bored 0.2L over. Yes, the M113K motor is technically a 5.4L, so I truly have a 5.6L. But since it's called a 55K, we call it a 5.7L.

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Vadim told me to keep the rods stock as well but he polished them to strenghten them and prevent cracks from forming. I wanted to pay for titanium rods and he advised against it since the rpms will remain stock also.

However, he rehoned the entire block/bottom end instead of sleeving it.

Is Vadim still working on Victor's projects?
Vadim is still working on my project, so yes. But I believe my project is the last one since Vadim will be creating his own projects from now forward.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ50
wow...
if i waited over a year for 1000hp and then end up gettin' 825hp instead, i'd be dissatisfied...
That's putting mildly.. plus I think the 825 is with a 100 octane tune.. I'd say mine is more like 735-750 w 93 octane and assuming 18% drivetrain loss..

That's not factoring in the money..

So, yeah, "a little" dissatisfied would be a correct statement..
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by New2this
That's putting mildly.. plus I think the 825 is with a 100 octane tune.. I'd say mine is more like 735-750 w 93 octane and assuming 18% drivetrain loss..

That's not factoring in the money..

So, yeah, "a little" dissatisfied would be a correct statement..
That sux! I still can't get over the ported Heads & Cam work net an extra 20 rwhp but this is interesting news on what the 825pkg makes on 93 octane minus your head/cam work it's far from the 825 nomenclature.

Originally Posted by New2this
Vadim thinks would have been about 620-630 if the turbos wouldn't have been in place to restrict the flow.
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Now, it will run with the bigger cams, and ported and polished heads, and a port matched intake..
We are expecting about 15-20whp increase this week with those upgrades.
So we can objectively minus the Head/Cam work since it's not part of the original VRP-825 pkg, bring it to a generous 610 RWHP /.82 = VRP-743 pkg, looks like your on point w/735-750pkg...

I'd really like to know what RWTO your putting down

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Old May 6, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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That sux! I still can't get over the ported Heads & Cam work net an extra 20 rwhp but this is interesting news on what the 825pkg makes on 93 octane minus your head/cam work it's far from the 825 nomenclature.





So we can objectively minus the Head/Cam work since it's not part of the original VRP-825 pkg, bring it to a generous 610 RWHP /.82 = VRP-743 pkg, looks like your on point w/735-750pkg...

I'd really like to know what RWTO your putting down
emmm like i said the brabus modd SL65 here put down 590whp, so I find it strange that this kit puts out more with just cooling and reflash?
but we also do have track results and those tend to show you what the car can do
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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That's putting mildly.. plus I think the 825 is with a 100 octane tune.. I'd say mine is more like 735-750 w 93 octane and assuming 18% drivetrain loss..

That's not factoring in the money..

So, yeah, "a little" dissatisfied would be a correct statement..
Or the monthly payments being made if the car was not paid for and was not being driven. Sorry about the dissappointment.
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Or the monthly payments being made if the car was not paid for and was not being driven. Sorry about the dissappointment.
True dat...that is why I was glad on my mods (and during the engine rebuild) that the car was already paid off or the fact that paying for a car that you aren't driving would kind of eat at me after awhile.

I could take for short bursts (a week or two at a time) but months to almost a year is a bit much to not enjoy the car...

In the end, I hope everything works out for you guys.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Vadim told me to keep the rods stock as well but he polished them to strenghten them and prevent cracks from forming. I wanted to pay for titanium rods and he advised against it since the rpms will remain stock also.

However, he rehoned the entire block/bottom end instead of sleeving it.

Is Vadim still working on Victor's projects?
Is your car done? I know we can more than double the boost on a built motor and make crazy hp. I will probably do pistons over the winter and take a crack at 9's next year. First goal is 10.5x @ 13x on stock block, pump gas, and no nitrous
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Yes Vadim made it clear, that I would have to cut up the engine compartment and the shock towers to get bigger turbos to fit in the stock location..

That's why the decision was made to just add the 2 larger turbos in the rear, as I didn't want to be cutting up my car..
F-it ditch the factory turbos and crummy manifolds. Fabricate a set of long tube headers and reinstall the rear turbo system. You might need to go with smaller turbine housings though as that is key to the remote mount turbo setups in getting them responsive.
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