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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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10 Second CL65 DYNO: 692RWHP and 912TQ

We got to the dyno just to see what kind of numbers it would put out. We should have the graphs soon. We're waiting for the shop to email them to either me or Martin. I don't give too much credibility to dyno numbers as I use them for tuning purposes and/or entertainment, like WWE!! Needless to say we were pleasantly entertained as the numbers the Dynojet spat out were quite impressive. We have aggressive future plans for this car and wanted to get a baseline before we went forward with more tuning and upgraded turbochargers. I believe this dyno number suggests crank horsepower to be somewhere around 825. The trap speed does not support that as we are experiencing a tremendous amount of interference from the ECU/TCU before, during, and after the shift points. Once we straighten that out, I think we will see 135 mph trap speeds from this set-up. Big thanks to Martin who basically set the car up on the dyno himself. Victor will be chiming in shortly as I believe he is nearly ready to release this power package to the V12TT public.

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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" that's a lot of torque ...that's insane " + 30000 ....
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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That VRP package isnt released to the public yet?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Congrats and props to you and the VRP team. This is a breakthru!
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OMG Marko!!! Thats crazy!!!!!

The mods you have so far are...

new intercoolers
ice box in back
ecu/tcu....

is that all?

Which dyno shop in chicago did you use?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
We got to the dyno just to see what kind of numbers it would put out. We should have the graphs soon. We're waiting for the shop to email them to either me or Martin. I don't give too much credibility to dyno numbers as I use them for tuning purposes and/or entertainment, like WWE!! Needless to say we were pleasantly entertained as the numbers the Dynojet spat out were quite impressive. We have aggressive future plans for this car and wanted to get a baseline before we went forward with more tuning and upgraded turbochargers. I believe this dyno number suggests crank horsepower to be somewhere around 825. The trap speed does not support that as we are experiencing a tremendous amount of interference from the ECU/TCU before, during, and after the shift points. Once we straighten that out, I think we will see 135 mph trap speeds from this set-up. Big thanks to Martin who basically set the car up on the dyno himself. Victor will be chiming in shortly as I believe he is nearly ready to release this power package to the V12TT public.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OS5gDneq0A

your supra sig needs to be updated

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by theeddie
your supra sig need to be updated
Fixed it. Thanks.

BTW, who has a faster 3600 lb Supra now?

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aleksandar1099
OMG Marko!!! Thats crazy!!!!!

The mods you have so far are...

new intercoolers
ice box in back
ecu/tcu....

is that all?

Which dyno shop in chicago did you use?
No ice that day. TCU is stock. Cat delete and X-pipe.
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
No ice that day. TCU is stock. Cat delete and X-pipe.
Holy *****! I thought it was more than that! I guess I am going to move up to the 65's this summer!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
Fixed it. Thanks.

BTW, who has a faster 3600 lb Supra now?
boost logic is running 7.9s now at 185 6 speed too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU1P9GIFoSc&fmt=22

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by theeddie
boost logic is running 7.9s now at 185 6 speed to
I know. But that car has lexan windows and no heater core or AC , no rear seats, only driver's seat, no door panels, no roof panels, hell no interior panels at all!!! LOL, And it weighs 2900lbs with driver. It's definitely a bad *** car to set all those records! I guess you can call it a street car. I don't. I'm changing my sig back. Thanks!!

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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
I know. But that car has lexan windows and no heater core or AC , no rear seats, only driver's seat, no door panels, no roof panels, hell no interior panels at all!!! LOL, And it weighs 2900lbs with driver. It's definitely a bad *** car to set all those records! I guess you can call it a street car. I don't. I'm changing my sig back. Thanks!!
Not a street car but I saw the black one and looks clean as hell. Even the HRE's are c21's super light with R888's, nasty big A$$ turbo, the size of a fan..lol!

Marko hit me up when ever you can...you are tough to get in contact...lol!!
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street car = current registration/inspection with STREET tires that can be driven wherever. Not everyone needs a/c or heater. That's called "options"
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Bigger turbos???
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Salerno713
That VRP package isnt released to the public yet?
Not yet. I think he will very soon. We have gone through many revisions with the package to make it more reliable and perform better. And needless to say more affordable!!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Bigger turbos???
More like
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL65
We got to the dyno just to see what kind of numbers it would put out. We should have the graphs soon. We're waiting for the shop to email them to either me or Martin. I don't give too much credibility to dyno numbers as I use them for tuning purposes and/or entertainment, like WWE!! Needless to say we were pleasantly entertained as the numbers the Dynojet spat out were quite impressive. We have aggressive future plans for this car and wanted to get a baseline before we went forward with more tuning and upgraded turbochargers. I believe this dyno number suggests crank horsepower to be somewhere around 825. The trap speed does not support that as we are experiencing a tremendous amount of interference from the ECU/TCU before, during, and after the shift points. Once we straighten that out, I think we will see 135 mph trap speeds from this set-up. Big thanks to Martin who basically set the car up on the dyno himself. Victor will be chiming in shortly as I believe he is nearly ready to release this power package to the V12TT public.

Dyno Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OS5gDneq0A
Is the tranny stock? I thought the stock trans couldn't handle more than 840-850 rwto freekin AWESOME!! 912 rwto w/18% loss = 1112 Crank Torque ohhh baby!!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Bigger turbos???
I am curious how much this kit will cost. Also will the stock trans hold this kind of power? 9xx rwtq. thanks alot!
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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I was waiting until the dyno graphs showed up before I posted anything.

We've put alot of time and effort into this setup and we really didn't want to put it out there until it had been tested thoroughly and proven. Like Marko said, the intercoolers themselves went through a few revisions before we settled on the final production ready design. The end tanks will be more rounded for aesthetic and clearance reasons. They will also be in a black anodized finish for the stealthy look.

As well, there are some CNC pieces we are waiting on to finalize the intercooler kit. Once we get everything in our hands, we'll take some pics off the car of the new setup.

Marko has approx 25 passes down the 1/4mile track at this power level with the current setup so it is a very reliable, streetable setup. I myself am amazed that the stock AMG trans is holding up. I believe the saving grace is that the stock EGS with the torque limiting that is in place is allowing the trans to survive.

If we had put the EGS module in his car like I did for Nate's E55 he would be allowing 1200lb/ft to go through the trans from 1st to 5th which would definitely put some strain on it.

As it sits, Marko is making 825hp at the crank and almost 1200lb/ft of torque.

I will also say that there is more power left on the table here. The ECU needs work if you can believe it. We can make even more power if we dial in the A/F and timing on this monster. Right now, Marko is running with a basic "mail order" tune. We did 1 revision to the original file and that was a blind update that was done just to make it safe and add a bunch of fuel.

Once the hardware side is 100% finished and in production, we will put all the efforts on the software side and see if we can unleash more power.

This kit will be referred to as the: VRP VR825 Package (The "10sec package")

The package will work on any MB V12TT 600/65 series car and consist of the following:

- VRP VR825 ECU Tune
- VRP Intercoolers
- VRP TB to Intercooler Y-pipe
- VRP Intake system with dual conical filters
- All required hardware and accessories to install on your car


NOTE: Marko had cat bypass pipes and the intercooler reservoir in addition to the above which will be optional items if you want to duplicate Marko's setup. This means the power output will be lower without those 2 items.

I didn't want to post any pricing because we keep revising and revising and I am really not sure where final cost will end up but I will give you some preliminary information.

For now, we will be offering the kit at a retail price of: $8,500.

We will have an introductory special of: $7,650

I have been communicating with a bunch of you via PMs, emails, phone calls, etc.. about this kit during its development. At this time we are ready to take deposits and put names to the kits. Those of you that want the kit please email me at: victor@vrptuning.com so that I can consolidate all the interested parties into 1 list.

We are making 10 kits on the first run and they will be done in the order the deposits are received.

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Just to give you some insight on where we are headed...

Marko's car has done a best of 10.72 @ 132mph. Something to think about is that just before each shift the ECU pulls timing, reduces boost, then shifts and re-engages. It takes 3secs to get back to full power during each shift. The car shifts 3 times during the 1/4mile so that is 9secs out of almost 11 that the car is not at full power... If we eliminate this with the EGS update, and build up the trans to withstand the power, I am positive this car will run 10.4 if it can put the power down.

The next step is some upgrading to the turbos, a few more "cooling" pieces we have been experimenting with, an EGS with all the load limits removed, and maybe some giggle gas. It should be a very fun spring!
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