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Audi RS8 GT3

Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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This against a black series would be fun to watch.

http://www.rsportscars.com/audi/2010-audi-r8-gt3/
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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It would destroy the BS...

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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Depends on the BS. A CLK BS, maybe. An SL65 BS, prolly not. Thing only has 500hp. Is it AWD? That might change things...
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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according to the article it does not.

I may still destroy a SL65BS. Both the SL65BS and CLK63BS are road cars, built and designed to be road cars. This is more of a race car and may not even be street legal. Somewhat like a Porsche 911 GT3 Cup, but maybe even more extreme.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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2010 Audi R8 GT3 Specifications
Drivetrain
Layout Mid-Engine, RWD
Transmission 6 Speed Sequential Manual, Paddle Shifted
Suspension Modified Racing Suspension, Almost Exclusively Stock R8 Components
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Engine Type Projected V10 Gasoline
Horsepower Greater than 500 hp
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Body Type 2 Door, 2 Seat GT Coupe
Aerodynamics Enhanced R8 Carbon Fiber Aero Kit, Greatly Increased Downforce
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Release Date 2009 Racing Season, Fall '09 to Customers
Class GT3
Read between the lines man, they don't want to release the exact figure for whatever reason, but logic dictates that if the horsepower rating was 550+ they'd say "greater than 550hp". If it was 600+ they'd say "greater than 600hp". They're not going to downplay it, they'd boast about it. Get where I'm going?

This thing will have 500'ish horsepower, which is not going to be sufficient to "destroy" a 65 Black Series. Also, have you seen a 65BS? It's as much of a track car as this thing is. Although Audi's usually have some trick AWD system, and if that's the case here then that's certainly an advantage on a road course. But it will not "destroy" a 65 BS on the straightaways, or in a 1/4 at the strip, or especially at higher speeds when the AWD actually becomes a hindrance.

It's going to be like anything else, better in some regards, worse in others. Maybe if it had 700+hp it would "destroy" a 65 BS in all categories, but with only 500hp and saddled with a power-sapping AWD system, there will be MANY areas where a 65 will outshine it.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Read between the lines man, they don't want to release the exact figure for whatever reason, but logic dictates that if the horsepower rating was 550+ they'd say "greater than 550hp". If it was 600+ they'd say "greater than 600hp". They're not going to downplay it, they'd boast about it. Get where I'm going?

This thing will have 500'ish horsepower, which is not going to be sufficient to "destroy" a 65 Black Series. Also, have you seen a 65BS? It's as much of a track car as this thing is. Although Audi's usually have some trick AWD system, and if that's the case here then that's certainly an advantage on a road course. But it will not "destroy" a 65 BS on the straightaways, or in a 1/4 at the strip, or especially at higher speeds when the AWD actually becomes a hindrance.

It's going to be like anything else, better in some regards, worse in others. Maybe if it had 700+hp it would "destroy" a 65 BS in all categories, but with only 500hp and saddled with a power-sapping AWD system, there will be MANY areas where a 65 will outshine it.
quit reading between the lines and actually read the lines. It will be RWD. Also remember that the SL65BS still has an interior and creature comforts. If you look closely at the pics, you can see this car has a full rollcage, full race recaro seats and what looks like many carbon fiber pieces. HP isn't everything and this car looks like it could be VERY lightweight.

We can argue all day but we'll see when it's released. I would hazard to say this car will be like the E46 M3 GTR. Factory produced race platforms that were never ever meant to be driven on the street.

By the way, I just looked it up and this car weighs 2,755lbs compared to the SL65 Black Series at 4,342lbs.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CWW
Read between the lines man, they don't want to release the exact figure for whatever reason, but logic dictates that if the horsepower rating was 550+ they'd say "greater than 550hp". If it was 600+ they'd say "greater than 600hp". They're not going to downplay it, they'd boast about it. Get where I'm going?

This thing will have 500'ish horsepower, which is not going to be sufficient to "destroy" a 65 Black Series. Also, have you seen a 65BS? It's as much of a track car as this thing is. Although Audi's usually have some trick AWD system, and if that's the case here then that's certainly an advantage on a road course. But it will not "destroy" a 65 BS on the straightaways, or in a 1/4 at the strip, or especially at higher speeds when the AWD actually becomes a hindrance.

It's going to be like anything else, better in some regards, worse in others. Maybe if it had 700+hp it would "destroy" a 65 BS in all categories, but with only 500hp and saddled with a power-sapping AWD system, there will be MANY areas where a 65 will outshine it.
You realize this isn't a street legal car, right? It's a stripped down R8 V10 GT3 RWD race car. As in, built for GT3-class racing. I'll second that it would destroy any road-going BS on the track; wouldn't even be a fair fight.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CWW
This thing will have 500'ish horsepower, which is not going to be sufficient to "destroy" a 65 Black Series. Also, have you seen a 65BS? It's as much of a track car as this thing is.
Oh really?


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e1000, great pics - are they from that same site? You probably realize, but you missed an important one when it comes to putting down fast lap times
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Well I stand corrected then!
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
e1000, great pics - are they from that same site? You probably realize, but you missed an important one when it comes to putting down fast lap times
there's so much in that pic. Gigantic brakes, race spec tires and a healthy size front splitter!
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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I would absolutely sell kidney's to have this beast esp if able to register for regular street terrorizing on occasion. It looks like a Bugatti Veyron on Steroidzzzzz! I can't imagine how badazzz this will look in Satin black w/Red calipers


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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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And you could give it some Stealth Tuberculosis!!!!!! lol
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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Maybe a comparison to a CLK DTM would be more apples-apples.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Fantastic! This is a good alternative to the Porsche GT3-RS racer.

Note that this is a RACE CAR not street car. As such, Mercedes does not have any BS car that will compete on the track. Also, as much as I love and lust after the CLK-DTM, it is also still a street car at heart and is at a disadvantage.

The whip that thing, you are going to need a C63 or CLK DTM race car and then it will probably be a good view of the Audi in the rear view but also, maybe not.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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The whip that thing, you are going to need a C63 or CLK DTM race car and then it will probably be a good view of the Audi in the rear view but also, maybe not.
You did mention that the Audi is a race car so I guess you've got a typo in there about the C63.

Maybe this AMG race taxi would have a chance against the Audi. (Private Lounge link, you may need to sign in)
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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You did mention that the Audi is a race car so I guess you've got a typo in there about the C63.

Maybe this AMG race taxi would have a chance against the Audi. (Private Lounge link, you may need to sign in)
What I meant was a C63 DTM series race car or a CLK DTM series race car.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jdeastbay
This against a black series would be fun to watch.

http://www.rsportscars.com/audi/2010-audi-r8-gt3/


AUDI makes this car now stock its the R8 V10 with the lambo engine..

its about $40k more than the 8 cyl audo R8, but it does have like 510 hp,
and is very fast,,, never heard of the GT3 name though,, must be a custom job cause AUDI does not call it the GT 3

Audi calls it the R8 V10 5.2 FSI I believe..
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