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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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I need quicker shifts....help!!!

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Just as the title states "I need quicker shifts....help!!!". I took my car to the track this past weekend and my cars shifts are a little slow. I believe with quicker and firmer shifts my car will be in the 10's. I tried a valve body mod but that didn't work out so well. I'm not willing to switch tuners just to get a Renntech speedshift so that option is out the window. I hear that AMG had or has something similar to the speedshift if not identical. If anyone could give me my options that would be great.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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Valve body details. Was it the concept or just how it was attempted?

Options can get pricey but work. Swap to a triple disc, etc. but you will lose driveability.

AMG the tuner had the option but the only way to get it was to take the car there. Some tried to source the stuff but never updated us..
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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I think hooleyboy did some thing with the Tranny electronics or some thing like that PM him.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RenntechE55
I think hooleyboy did some thing with the Tranny electronics or some thing like that PM him.
yah. he changed the transmission solenoid valve things. MJ50 tried this I believe only to find out that the ones Hooley swapped in are already on the W211 E55, or at least his year E55.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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Hey man what's happenin? My car shifts real hard and real fast, just like the old school tranny's.. I'll pm you or call you Thursday or Friday with details.. It is BAD AZZ.. you will love it... Just need to make sure if I can spill the beans yet... glad to see you're havin a blast with your car..
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 03:17 AM
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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Try Cory at Kleemann ... not sure who has done all your work so far, but I know they can do it on a stock diff no problem.

Shifts are MUCH faster - but also there does not seem to be a pause in power - its seamless.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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What about tranny fluids, anyone experiment in that department to help slippage? Or is everyone just running the stock fluids?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
Hey man what's happenin? My car shifts real hard and real fast, just like the old school tranny's.. I'll pm you or call you Thursday or Friday with details.. It is BAD AZZ.. you will love it... Just need to make sure if I can spill the beans yet... glad to see you're havin a blast with your car..
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikesamg
What about tranny fluids, anyone experiment in that department to help slippage? Or is everyone just running the stock fluids?

I am doing that now. It helps, but not by much. We are looking for a bigger difference.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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IMO I think changing the trans fluid on a slipping trans can have some ill effects. If you remove all the metal material in the old fluid your trans may have a harder time shifting and it just might slip more. Your trans is using that fluid material to help shift.

I'm not only running the updated solenoids, but I also have my line pressure set to the max value. The day to day shifting is a bit clunky, but it pays off when you stomp on it.

Remember Renntech Speedshift only works if you have a renntech tune. Not only do they flash the TCU, they have to flash something in the ECU as well.So that makes it unable to work with other tuners tunes.

If you are not interested in switching to Renntech. Paramount Performance Transmission has modded valve bodies for the SRT8 guys. The 722/NAG-1 trans found in the Chrysler/Dodge cars, is just about the same trans in our cars.

I have spoken with the owner of Paramount Performance transmissions and he seems like a nice guy and is very knowledgeable when it comes to the 722/NAG1 transmission. Not to mention, he is the person who supplies all the parts to former site sponsor Southern Hotrods transmission if I recall.

you can email Bill at billschurr@hotmail.com His site looks like its got some broken links, Regardless Bill is the guy you want to talk with about 722 transmission mods.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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^ lol thats interesting. Do you know why he left Southern Hot Rod? I had to send my trans back and was told the reason had to do with the person mentioned above using the wrong clutch packs and is no longer employed at SHR. He was also supposed to make me axles so I sent him a broken one and never got anything. Dig deeper and you will find more info

Increase line pressure = quicker/firmer shifts

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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
^ lol thats interesting. Do you know why he left Southern Hot Rod? I had to send my trans back and was told the reason had to do with the person mentioned above using the wrong clutch packs and is no longer employed at SHR. He was also supposed to make me axles so I sent him a broken one and never got anything. Dig deeper and you will find more info

Increase line pressure = quicker/firmer shifts
I did not know that, that sucks. He told me he supplies SHR with the stuff to build the transmissions. Very interesting to say the least.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I did not know that, that sucks. He told me he supplies SHR with the stuff to build the transmissions. Very interesting to say the least.
How long ago was it that he told you that? I haven't talked to SHR since the last time I sent my trans back
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Try this Alan:

After getting to the track go into the transmission controller under Drive through SDS and reset adaptions and it will relearn the shifting while you are stomping the ***** out of it.

All of my clients that I perform this reset on swear it shifts like a monster and I have plenty of seat time and know it works.

Of course once you are caught in traffic it will return to "granny shift" mode.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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I did not know that, that sucks. He told me he supplies SHR with the stuff to build the transmissions. Very interesting to say the least.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
How long ago was it that he told you that? I haven't talked to SHR since the last time I sent my trans back
This was not to long ago.. Just before I did my trans solenoids. I was tossing around the idea of their valve body mod they offer for relativity short money.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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How do you increase the line pressure. Is it something you can do via STAR
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Possibly today, I should have something for the TCU only. Stay tuned. Im literally waiting for a phone call, with the thumbs up or thumbs down.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Possibly today, I should have something for the TCU only. Stay tuned. Im literally waiting for a phone call, with the thumbs up or thumbs down.
Standalone speedshift???
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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still waiting, no news yet. I should hear something Wednesday afternoon.
you take the day off and forget that today IS wednesday???
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