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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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All of this throttle body shaft grind talk is .............

Dead on accurate.

Figure I would finally get around to posting up some clear pics. Used a Dremel with an extension (flex shaft) which makes things easier, similar to using a heavy pencil. Started out with 60 grit, used a flat file to keep it straight, then 120, 500, 800, then polished up both sides. Duct tape on the bore in case of an accidental bump. Loctite on the screws. This is actually my second TB grind.

For anyone contemplating this mod, do it! It really does open up the breathing on the car from off the line to up top. For those claiming 20+hp. I would certainly agree.The power is not placebo, it is there, and everywhere.

I did not grind it down as aggressively as I could have as I enjoy a margin of safety. I purchased this unit off Ebay for $120. Would rather not use the TB off the car just in case......

With careful grinding/polishing-2 hours taking your time.
R&R with old unit-30 minutes including cleaning the inside of airbox, KK filters,etc. No error codes on either car. If you have other mods, IMO this is a must.



The OEM screws are 'pillars of restriction', I'm trying to source some nice counter sink versions.






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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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nice work man! i was wondering about it, now im going to do it next weekend.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Wow man that is a really nicely done job. Is it worth doing this mod on larger TB's as well?
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Wow man that is a really nicely done job. Is it worth doing this mod on larger TB's as well?
yes why not!
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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i have this same setup on a 74mm and it helps!
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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can this be done to an 82mm TB?
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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can this be done to an 82mm TB?
yes Exotic-Metal has done it on his
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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yup, its free HP -- I love the free gains it gave me -- I have 2 TBs also -- and when I put the umodded TB on the car -- it is very noticable -- even my gf can tell the car is very different. I wonder what the dyno gains are but they are noticable -- must be 20whp if you can feel it when you have ~600crank hp... car is much more sensitive and responsive -
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by beauphus
can this be done to an 82mm TB?
82 to 85.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...rted-85mm.html

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https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-74-80-do.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...c_metal55.html
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I wish we had factual data to support the gains

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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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Nice workmanship!
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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I wish we had factual data to support the gains
traps went from a previous best of 118.3, to 120 just from this mod and s55 air snorkel.

its a solid investment
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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time to shop for a used 74mm TB....
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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Sorry, noobish when it comes to the TB. So this mod is performed on a STOCK TB that is in our cars now?
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TheVazha
Sorry, noobish when it comes to the TB. So this mod is performed on a STOCK TB that is in our cars now?
yes, you can use the one in your car or you can pick up a used one and mod it.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:46 AM
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Beautiful. I'm interested to see a dyno stock vs grinded or some kind of proof. Just the "feel" of more power is still weird. I did this before, I have to grind my new TB soon.. maybe tomorrow
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yes, you can use the one in your car or you can pick up a used one and mod it.
Sounds great! Any special tune needed like with a pulley or headers?
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 03:17 AM
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Sounds great! Any special tune needed like with a pulley or headers?
from what i hear no, but then again you could always benefit from a tune.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 03:44 AM
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traps went from a previous best of 118.3, to 120 just from this mod and s55 air snorkel.

its a solid investment
This seems like the best proof -- seeing that dynos are so unreliable ---- but what would that translate into crank hp gains?

I know one of the members knows a formula for this --
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traps went from a previous best of 118.3, to 120 just from this mod and s55 air snorkel.

its a solid investment
What was the difference in DA?
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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I was told that the throttle body mod or larger unit does not constitute a tune. I just asked EvoSport this questions a few days ago when I inquired about their tb kit.
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a tune will always maximize gains, safety and driveability. if you are going stock to 82mm you will need a retune -- that is a huge jump and the computer will not be able to compensate adequately.
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any diy's on this, or its pretty much simple as it sounds, you grind down the shaft lol
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lol pretty much tbal. take your time, make sure you do it right and I would recommend polishing after you grind down. hit me up if you need any help Ive done a couple for some friends. I'll be tackling this once I get a baseline run since my EC long tubes are on order
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 05:24 AM
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Nice job pearlpower....

Ok I get the fact that the cross sectional TB area is larger now allowing more flow but I dont see how it can bring about anything close to 20hp gains....esp when applied to the larger TB's....

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