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Old 04-14-2011, 03:09 AM
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911 P-Turbo Ruf 550 or Nissan GTR

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It's been a great AMG run for me.
C32 --> E55 --> CLS55 --> and next??.

What do you guys think.
A 2002 911 Ruf Turbo 550 w/ 40k miles ($48-54k)
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A 2009/2010 Nissan GTR. (more expensive option at around $60-65k)

I do know that I'd be taking a fairly larger risk buy buying an older and heavily modified car. Ruf does have a great reputation though. I just can't get it out of my head, it's stunning. Car is being sold at a P-dealer. Owner put $40k in Ruf work. Bigger turbos, suspension, rim etc..

Thoughts???
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Both are awesome -- and would make me happy -- I would pick the RUF.
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I would go GTR. Check out www.Amsperformance.com. Look at the Alpha cars they have. Nothing will be able to keep up with you.
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Never was a fan of the 996 styling, however, I am sure being a Turbo and a RUF car, it looks fantastic.
Hmmmmm.... P car for me. Would love to see a picture of it.
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Would also love to see a picture of the RUF (any RUF is BADAZZ) but I also don't like the front treatment for that year with the TT. I would go with the GTR. Now if it was a 997 RUF or a 1996 TT. . .game over
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Can't really lose with either..
RUF are awesome and most have no clue what it is, however you'll certainly see more 911's out than you would a GTR on an average day
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Sounds like a nice price for the Ruf 550. Test drive both, buy what makes you happy. They're both great cars.
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I'd jump on the RUF, but I'm a Porsche nut.
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Would also love to see a picture of the RUF (any RUF is BADAZZ) but I also don't like the front treatment for that year with the TT. I would go with the GTR. Now if it was a 997 RUF or a 1996 TT. . .game over
Same here. Not the biggest fan of the GTR looks but visually modded like Vics, they are really nice!
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I have another friend that just got a GTR last week. The thing gets more attention than any Ferrari or Lambo I've seen on the streets. Be prepared for it.
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I love RUFs but I'd have to say GT-R, newer technology, easy to make really fast, more practical, more reliable, a lot shorter wait for parts and probably has a warranty if it's that new!


Originally Posted by taurran
I have another friend that just got a GTR last week. The thing gets more attention than any Ferrari or Lambo I've seen on the streets. Be prepared for it.
I don't believe that at all. I have been out with groups where all 3 cars mentioned were present and people don't even see the GT-R, it might as well be a maxima when in the presence of true supercars (even though it may very well be faster).
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I don't believe that at all. I have been out with groups where all 3 cars mentioned were present and people don't even see the GT-R, it might as well be a maxima when in the presence of true supercars (even though it may very well be faster).
I have too. The GTR is more popular with the younger crowd, and is still a bit more rare depending on where you're from. The attention you're likely to get with it isn't always the kind you want, more like the annoying honda revving on you and mad ******* you at the gas station.

Note - the statement that it gets more looks is from a friend that owns a Lambo Galardo, Ferrari F430, and a Nissan GTR.
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Note - I'd say the GTR is more of a "supercar" than the average Lambo or Ferrari. Just because they're made by an exotic manufacturer doesn't qualify them as supercars.

But hey, this is getting a little off topic.
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Originally Posted by taurran
I have too. The GTR is more popular with the younger crowd, and is still a bit more rare depending on where you're from. The attention you're likely to get with it isn't always the kind you want, more like the annoying honda revving on you and mad ******* you at the gas station.

Note - the statement that it gets more looks is from a friend that owns a Lambo Galardo, Ferrari F430, and a Nissan GTR.

That I can agree with! Definitely the younger gt-r / honda fanboi's love that car, and think it's the best machine ever made (it's definitely up there). Yeah you don't really get the revving and stuff to a lambo, more just panties coming off lol.

Lucky guy! I would love to have that collection!
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Originally Posted by taurran
Note - I'd say the GTR is more of a "supercar" than the average Lambo or Ferrari. Just because they're made by an exotic manufacturer doesn't qualify them as supercars.

But hey, this is getting a little off topic.
Oh for sure, the technology in that car is absolutely incredible, but the styling and price tag of the GT-R doesn't put it in the supercar category. Being a supercar isn't just about speed or technology, otherwise a $10k fox body mustang that can run 9's would be a supercar lol
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My other buddy that just picked up a GTR this weekend had a hard time visiting the DMV to get a tag without getting mobbed by people asking him about his car. Apparently the LEO at the DMV also took special interest and threatened to arrest him for driving it there with no plate. ha.

His story sounded ridiculous, but nonetheless true.
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Originally Posted by taurran
My other buddy that just picked up a GTR this weekend had a hard time visiting the DMV to get a tag without getting mobbed by people asking him about his car. Apparently the LEO at the DMV also took special interest and threatened to arrest him for driving it there with no plate. ha.

His story sounded ridiculous, but nonetheless true.
Hahahaha!! that's hilarious! Typical cop attitude right there! I don't doubt he gets people stopping him all the time, it's a badass car for sure, I just feel like a lambo or ferrari would get moer attention in a normal environment (not a car meet or such)

Where do you live by the way? Maybe Dallas is different?
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Originally Posted by abrim
Oh for sure, the technology in that car is absolutely incredible, but the styling and price tag of the GT-R doesn't put it in the supercar category. Being a supercar isn't just about speed or technology, otherwise a $10k fox body mustang that can run 9's would be a supercar lol
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here.

I don't think price has anything to do with it, honestly. It's about having "supercar" like performance from the factory. You can modify almost any car to be fast, the diffference is the manufacturer building it to be that way with zero modification.

I'd certainly say the GTR is Nissan's supercar, much like the Lexus LFA, Dodge Viper, and Chevy Corvette ZR1 are from those respective manufacturers. I'd say the Lexus is the only one from that list I'd qualify as "exotic".
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Hahahaha!! that's hilarious! Typical cop attitude right there! I don't doubt he gets people stopping him all the time, it's a badass car for sure, I just feel like a lambo or ferrari would get moer attention in a normal environment (not a car meet or such)

Where do you live by the way? Maybe Dallas is different?
Tampa, FL.

It seems GTR ownership becomes much more rare the farther you get from the west coast. In Cali I noticed them a lot more, dare I say due to the larger population of Asian auto enthusiasts.

I think there's something about Godzilla and the mystique about it, most likely due to the fact that you weren't able to legally import one to america for well over a decade.
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Originally Posted by taurran
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here.

I don't think price has anything to do with it, honestly. It's about having "supercar" like performance from the factory. You can modify almost any car to be fast, the diffference is the manufacturer building it to be that way with zero modification.

I'd certainly say the GTR is Nissan's supercar, much like the Lexus LFA, Dodge Viper, and Chevy Corvette ZR1 are from those respective manufacturers. I'd say the Lexus is the only one from that list I'd qualify as "exotic".
Half of me wants to say it's a supercar but half of me doesn't haha I'm actually quite torn right now. It's a definite animal that's for sure, I've driven a few and I love it, and wouldn't hesitate to own one if I had the extra cash for it. It's the everyday man's supercar.
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Originally Posted by taurran
Tampa, FL.

It seems GTR ownership becomes much more rare the farther you get from the west coast. In Cali I noticed them a lot more, dare I say due to the larger population of Asian auto enthusiasts.

I think there's something about Godzilla and the mystique about it, most likely due to the fact that you weren't able to legally import one to america for well over a decade.
I definitely agree with that, there are a lot on Cali, and yeah the asian tuner market is huge out there, and there are also a lot in Dallas, but that might just be because I hang out with certain crowds where quite a few friends have them, so they have lost their rarity value to me.

Yeah the R33 / R34 bodystyle is awesome! I do love seeing them!
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t's the everyday man's supercar.
I agree. That's exactly what it is.

With all the electronics, the everyday man can get supercar performance out of it without even really knowing how to drive.


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