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Old May 13, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Have you heard much about the Bilstein air spring? I see them for $659 on ebay which is over $300 cheaper then the OE style the shop would use. He also said that they don't always register correctly with the computer. Has anyone used the Bilstein?
I think factory's are rebadged Bilsteins...but not 100% sure.

Ask GrantwoodTX where he got his conversion done...though he's near Houston.

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Old May 15, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Can someone sent me the part list and price for E63 please. I haven't gotten a reply from Sergs for over 2 day. TIA!
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Old May 15, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_02AMG
Can someone sent me the part list and price for E63 please. I haven't gotten a reply from Sergs for over 2 day. TIA!
check post#134 for my original list. Attached is my modified list.

I'm getting mine done as I type, using KW V2 coilovers. The only parts that I really needed for my setup are the shim and spring retainer for the front shocks (items 60 and 90 highlighted in orange). I purchased a used set of lower control arms off of car-parts.com for $135 and it came with all the bolts, cover, and the riveted bracket (items 170, 180, 181 highlighted in orange) that holds some wiring on the control arm.

My installer said the only really difficulty to attempt this is that some of the exhaust system has to be dropped a little to get at the air reservoir to remove it without damaging the hose. He also avoided having to drop the rear to remove the reservoir as a whole, which is what the manual says to do. This saves a couple of hours of time.

He's supposedly finishing up the front this morning, because I had not ordered the parts needed for the front. It should be fairly simple to get that installed. Then it's a matter of programming and adjusting.
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Old May 15, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spinn
check post#134 for my original list. Attached is my modified list.

I'm getting mine done as I type, using KW V2 coilovers. The only parts that I really needed for my setup are the shim and spring retainer for the front shocks (items 60 and 90 highlighted in orange). I purchased a used set of lower control arms off of car-parts.com for $135 and it came with all the bolts, cover, and the riveted bracket (items 170, 180, 181 highlighted in orange) that holds some wiring on the control arm.

My installer said the only really difficulty to attempt this is that some of the exhaust system has to be dropped a little to get at the air reservoir to remove it without damaging the hose. He also avoided having to drop the rear to remove the reservoir as a whole, which is what the manual says to do. This saves a couple of hours of time.

He's supposedly finishing up the front this morning, because I had not ordered the parts needed for the front. It should be fairly simple to get that installed. Then it's a matter of programming and adjusting.
Thank you very much!
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Old May 15, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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No problem

Price wise, it's going to depend on which coilovers you order, plus whether you decide to buy new or used control arms. Most of the bolts can be reused from the airmatic setup. Labor wise, probably 6-8 hours. Since I had an extended warranty which covers my failed air spring, I've got $1K going towards labor, which should cover it all.

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Old May 26, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Posted a writeup on my conversion here.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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got a quote from a local speed shop, $2600 KW coils, installation and alignment ..

may do it very very soon
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Old May 27, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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I have a brand new set that was never used willing to get go for 1750 plus shipping... if anyone is interested
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Old May 27, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mht_v10
got a quote from a local speed shop, $2600 KW coils, installation and alignment ..

may do it very very soon
that's a great price for the coilovers/labor/alignment, provided you are getting KW Variant 2 coilovers and not Variant 1 coilovers.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spinn
that's a great price for the coilovers/labor/alignment, provided you are getting KW Variant 2 coilovers and not Variant 1 coilovers.
What's the difference between the 2? Any major improvements?
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Old May 27, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Variant 1 are not adjustable for rebound; Variant 2 has about 19 settings.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Variant 1 are not adjustable for rebound; Variant 2 has about 19 settings.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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this is the link that my local shop sent me :

http://www.kw-store.com/products/kw-...fort-7176.html


Im not sure wheather it is the variant 1 or 2 ....
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Old May 28, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mht_v10
this is the link that my local shop sent me :

http://www.kw-store.com/products/kw-...fort-7176.html


Im not sure wheather it is the variant 1 or 2 ....
That one is neither V1 or V2. Different line of coilovers from KW.

This is the one I have and what most other people have been getting if I'm not mistaken...the Variant 2's...

http://www.kw-store.com/products/kw-...t-v2-7045.html
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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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hmnn , same price but different part number ...according to their website
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Old May 28, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mht_v10
hmnn , same price but different part number ...according to their website
If ride height is your only concern, the one you posted is good enough. If you want ride height & dampening adjustability, go with the V2's.
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Old May 29, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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not quite sure what's the real difference between the street comfort and Variant 2 is; both have adjustable rebound dampening. Maybe less lowering capabilities than the Variant 2...which I would've been OK with had I'd known.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Thank you Serge! this is a great thread!

Can this also be done with just struts/lowering springs; not coilovers?

thanks again!
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Thank you Serge! this is a great thread!

Can this also be done with just struts/lowering springs; not coilovers?

thanks again!
yes...though will likely require additional alignment components due to the lack of height adjustments.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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yes...though will likely require additional alignment components due to the lack of height adjustments.
got it! thanks. so basically, with the additional work, its probably a wash and easier to get coilovers.

thanks again for the info!
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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it depends on the coilovers you get and what their range of adjustability is. The lower you go, the more likely you'll need to adjust camber/toe. Even with the KW Variant 2 coilovers, the minimum setting is still very low and I'll likely need to add some adjustable camber arm at least for the rears.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Hello fellow members, As some of you may know my name is Serge. I own a shop in SoCal that specializes in Mercedes Benz. Wanted to share with you another Coilover swap on a 211 E55 AMG. This is the 3rd one.

First, released air in suspension with SDS. Removed all struts and bellows. Ordered the correct parts for installation. Installed Coilovers, adjusted height and dampening. Re-programmed the Instrument Cluster, Central Gateway and EIS. No gremlins or problems with install.

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Everything went smooth, install was great. Since there is a lot of people that want the parts list. Please PM me and i will gladly pass it on. There is a total of 12 parts. If programming is needed I can also help. Enjoy and Thanks

I am interested in converting my 55 to coilovers please send me a pricing on all the parts that are needed for this conversion.. 2003 E55.. Thank you very much I appreciate it.
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