christiandel11

Nice! And yes like Spinn said, please post some pics of what the kit includes, that would be really helpful... I want to order the Ksports, but they don't have them in stock, they're saying it will be 3-4 weeks for delivery... :/

spinn

The rear lower control arm (center) is required for all steel spring setups; you can't reuse the airmatic air spring control arm. Check a few pages back...someone installed the D2 coilovers already and you're probably right that only the control arms are needed. You can ask Ksport if their front coilover has a top mount already built-in. Depending on the adjustability of the rear springs, you may want to buy some stock shims to provide additional clearance in the rear (if you're looking for a stock ride height)...don't know what the lowering range is for D2 or Ksport. Goto www.car-part.com to buy some used lower control arms...just make sure they're non-airmatic.

christiandel11

Will do! Thanks Spinn

SamBoler

Wonder how the ride quality of Ksport is compared to KW. From other platforms, people have stated KW is the best. Couldn't be happier with the KWs on my E55.

Thanks Benz Works!!

hpV12

Does anyone know of the exact weight savings? 12-100lbs is a big gap..

timeToy

I will be able to answer this question precisely late next week when I pick up my car from the shop where it is currently getting it's coilovers installed and airmatic system completely removed.

Work in progress:

hpV12

Beautiful. I've always wanted to know a more exact figure. Please let us know when this happens and snap some pics of the beast after for us!!

tooFATtoDRIVE

Do you have a self-levelling rear suspension in your wagon? If so, what sort of settings you need to change through STAR to avoid malfunction messages.
I would be grateful for your follow up on this as I have '03 E55 estate (wagon) and I am considering fitting coilovers. I have learned, however, that estates with self-levelling rear suspensions cannot be converted at the time.
Cheers

timeToy

I will let you know, I was told that Serge has done a wagon conversion and that it is just like for the sedan, setting up the suspension settings to "steel". but I'll follow with my installer.

Htownbrother

Serge took these picks for me of the Ksport kit. Installed last friday.

Htownbrother

Alot, not sure of the exact number. I had no problem carrying my Ksports to my car and putting them in the trunk. Serge put my stock system in the Ksport box(what would fit). It was MUCH MUCh MUCH heavier than my coilovers. Also 1 strut/airbag wouldn't fit in the box and had to be carried seperately. No way there is only a 12lb savings!!!!

Edit: Just looked at my Fedex Shipping invoice. I'm not sure how they do weight (round up/down). My Ksport shipping weight was 50.0 lbs (w/box)
I just individually weighed everything Serge gave me back. 80.8 lbs was the total. I'm under the conclusion that my Ksports did NOT weight 50lbs as the stock parts were much much much heavier.

Peter_02AMG

That's about how much my stock airmatic components weight. The KW V2 is a few pounds heavier but overall I saved about 33 lbs with the KW V2 kit.

Are your Ksport's shock adjustable?

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...on-review.html

Htownbrother

Yep, adjustable (32-way).

Peter_02AMG

32!..Holly cow!

cij911

Ohlins

AKnight55

How much were the ksports? And the whole conversion installed?

Htownbrother

Coilovers: 1100 shipped
Stock Parts(BenzWorks supplied) & Labor 1475
I dropped the car off Friday morning and it was ready that same night.

grimm

(flame suit on)

Ksport could make a 99 way adjustable coilover. It still doesn't fix that fact that it is and will always be a generic coilover that can be slapped onto any car which fits it.

The KW coilover was built for the W211. The valving was spec'ed out for the loads imposed upon it by the weight of the W211. I think it's reasonable to be worried about the longevity of those valves on the Ksport since the W211 is significantly heavier than the other cars this same shock can be installed on.

I hope that those with the Ksports can prove me wrong over the next several months/years that this is a non-issue. But ultimately, until then, why go with something that was never designed for the particular chassis in mind? Just so you can save a few bucks?

AKnight55

Talk about turn around, damn.. Thats quick

Htownbrother

Member MBTEK has already done it. His Ksports have been in over a year and seen over a dozen 1/4mi trips last time I talked with him. He has had zero issues and no ride complaints. I don't know why people are so quick to dismiss something they haven't tried themselves.
Additionally Ksport's description on vividracing regarding valving:
"The valving of each set is matched to the springs installed for unmatched ride quality and reliability."

OCKlasse

+1.

vettdvr

Easy answer too many don't tell the whole truth.

timeToy

Some news:
So the Wagon has a different Spring/Shocks system in the back, basically the Wagon shock is shorter and the spring rate is higher (thanks to a higher rear weight bias). After a lot of back and forth with a number of vendors we were unable to source an existing shock that fits the back, so we have KW build us a custom variant 2 set specifically for the Wagon, this will take few weeks, will keep you guys updated.

OCKlasse

This is what I initially believed to be the case. Glad you have figured it out.

spinn

a local tech went through the same thing and got a custom Bilstein setup (PSS9?) for the wagon. Anyone interested contact Benny at Nissi Motors in San Francisco.