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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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CGW needs to be set to Steel Suspension and on my conversion I removed the compressor and removed the relay for the airmatic system.
Guess I don't understand. CGW? who sets this? Can it be done at home? through FSS? Dealer only? Never heard of it or how to set it?

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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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What coilovers did you use?
KW Variant 2. I was going to go the D2 route but when initially ordered they said 2-3 weeks to get them from Germany and then a week for UPS delivery. When They arrived in the US they called and said they were the wrong fitment so I told them to forget about it and ordered KW.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Guess I don't understand. CGW? who sets this? Can it be done at home? through FSS? Dealer only? Never heard of it or how to set it?

You'd need STAR SDS to set the Central Gateway. This is not a menu available through the FSS system. It can be done at home if you have STAR or access to someone who has STAR.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by grantwoodtx
KW Variant 2. I was going to go the D2 route but when initially ordered they said 2-3 weeks to get them from Germany and then a week for UPS delivery. When They arrived in the US they called and said they were the wrong fitment so I told them to forget about it and ordered KW.
D2's are made in Germany? Who were you going through? Was it that they sent the wrong setup? or they don't have a proper fitment for the W211 w/airmatic? Thanks!
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spinn
D2's are made in Germany? Who were you going through? Was it that they sent the wrong setup? or they don't have a proper fitment for the W211 w/airmatic? Thanks!
Yes D2's are made in Germany but the US supplier didn't have stock and therefore had to order them in from Germany. This took 3 weeks via bulk freight as I would have had to pay about $170 extra to airfreight them in. The supplier screwed the order up and had W210 struts shipped instead of W211 struts. In fact I ordered a sway bar and stainless steel brakes lines from the same supplier and they only completed the order last week when the delivered the brake lines 4 weeks after order!

Yes there is a D2 fitment specifically for W211's.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by grantwoodtx
Yes D2's are made in Germany but the US supplier didn't have stock and therefore had to order them in from Germany. This took 3 weeks via bulk freight as I would have had to pay about $170 extra to airfreight them in. The supplier screwed the order up and had W210 struts shipped instead of W211 struts. In fact I ordered a sway bar and stainless steel brakes lines from the same supplier and they only completed the order last week when the delivered the brake lines 4 weeks after order!

Yes there is a D2 fitment specifically for W211's.
Hmmm, that's good to hear. The D2 website doesn't indicate any ties to Germany...mainly Asia and UK.

Will probably go with D2's if they're readily available. Thx!
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by grantwoodtx
You'd need STAR SDS to set the Central Gateway. This is not a menu available through the FSS system. It can be done at home if you have STAR or access to someone who has STAR.
Guess that lets me out dont' have a STAR and home or anyone around here who has access to one other than the dealer.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Guess that lets me out dont' have a STAR and home or anyone around here who has access to one other than the dealer.

What part of Louisiana are you in?
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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FINALLY DONE!!! VERY SATISFIED....
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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What part of Louisiana are you in?
Just north on New Orleans on the Northshore of Lake P.

I just spent $4,000 for front struts, rear airmatic shocks. Would have been great to have the option to go to conventional suspension.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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it cost me 2.2k parts and labor and only needed rear control arm and nuts,bolts.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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I doubt you wagon guys will be able to do a full conversion, as the rear suspension is different for the wagons, and I'm sure there probably isn't enough demand for these companies to build a kit.
I have already done a E55 Wagon. It's the exact same as a regular 211 with airmatic.
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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D2 coilovers are a bad product. They are made in china. I would never install D2's on a 211. Stick to KW, H&R, Bilstein, or custom that I have build....
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sergs99m3
D2 coilovers are a bad product. They are made in china. I would never install D2's on a 211. Stick to KW, H&R, Bilstein, or custom that I have build....
I can't say they are bad, but they are for sure chinese ( which is usually bad...lol ).
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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I have already done a E55 Wagon. It's the exact same as a regular 211 with airmatic.
good to know!
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sergs99m3
D2 coilovers are a bad product. They are made in china. I would never install D2's on a 211. Stick to KW, H&R, Bilstein, or custom that I have build....
Are you saying they're bad because they're made in China? or is it personal experience or customers experience? Would help if you could quantify why they are bad. I've seen some photos of some D2's that failed...but no one quantifies exactly what the driver was doing to cause the failure to happen.
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Old May 11, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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got my parts (KW V2) and going to the shop on Monday to get it done. Just in time, cuz my rear air spring was leaking every now and then. Will update later.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 03:15 PM
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anyone that has done the swap...have you had an alignment done after lowering your vehicle? How far out of alignment were you?
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spinn
anyone that has done the swap...have you had an alignment done after lowering your vehicle? How far out of alignment were you?
I had an alignment and a corner balance done after the car was converted to the KWv2's. I did drive the car for 2 days before having an alignment done and I did notice the car pulling to one side. Even if that didn't happen, for the sake of saving my tire tread, I'd recommend getting an alignment done. It's less costly than the amount of money you'll end up spending to have to get new tires.

Let me know if you want me to post up my alignment results. I have my car set up for around town and highway driving.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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I had an alignment and a corner balance done after the car was converted to the KWv2's. I did drive the car for 2 days before having an alignment done and I did notice the car pulling to one side. Even if that didn't happen, for the sake of saving my tire tread, I'd recommend getting an alignment done. It's less costly than the amount of money you'll end up spending to have to get new tires.

Let me know if you want me to post up my alignment results. I have my car set up for around town and highway driving.
I definitely want to get it aligned after I have the work done, but have heard there's limited adjustment. How low did you go with the KWs? What did they adjust? Please do post your results. Was wondering if a camber kit is necessary if at all for the slight lowering that I'm planning to do.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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Just noticed my E500 sagging all the way down to the tire on the right rear.. Anyone know a good shop in the north Dallas area that has done these conversion kits? Had one shop quote me at $1104 out the door for just replacing one airbag but they noticed the left side is leaking as well. So since both are out I figured converting to a coil suspension, maybe do a 2" drop as well. Also, how important is it to fix the airbag when its leaking that bad? Sometimes it leaks down within 30 minutes sometimes it takes over a day.
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Originally Posted by martin254
Just noticed my E500 sagging all the way down to the tire on the right rear.. Anyone know a good shop in the north Dallas area that has done these conversion kits? Had one shop quote me at $1104 out the door for just replacing one airbag but they noticed the left side is leaking as well. So since both are out I figured converting to a coil suspension, maybe do a 2" drop as well. Also, how important is it to fix the airbag when its leaking that bad? Sometimes it leaks down within 30 minutes sometimes it takes over a day.
My driver's rear had a leak where it would randomly go down, depending on whether it happened to be compressed at a certain instance. Only started happening this past month. My shop quoted about the same amount to replace just the one air bag. I don't want to deal with airmatic any longer. Better to do it now.
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Have you heard much about the Bilstein air spring? I see them for $659 on ebay which is over $300 cheaper then the OE style the shop would use. He also said that they don't always register correctly with the computer. Has anyone used the Bilstein?
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Have you heard much about the Bilstein air spring? I see them for $659 on ebay which is over $300 cheaper then the OE style the shop would use. He also said that they don't always register correctly with the computer. Has anyone used the Bilstein?
I don't think anyone in Dallas has done the conversion...I talked to Carson at Autoscope Park Cities about it, but never got around to it...
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