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Weistec Engineering M113K Supercharger Upgrade...Progress

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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Weistec
Hey guys, just wanted to give an update on the M113K Supercharger progress. Over the past few weeks we have received countless PMs, emails, and phone calls asking about the M113K System. We are moving forward with our development at a steady pace, and we are just as excited as you guys to get power numbers out. We promise that it is worth the wait, and we are doing our best to set a final release date. Thanks again for your support.
Where are you located and do you need a test car for a few months!
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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Where are you located and do you need a test car for a few months!
Santa Ana, CA

...and they damn well better already be in full-scale, long term testing by now or there's going to be a riot around here!


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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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Does it whine loud, that's the only thing I wanna know, if the supercharger sound has changed or is the same.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by e500slr
Does it whine loud, that's the only thing I wanna know, if the supercharger sound has changed or is the same.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Does Weistec use the stock crank pulley with their system or do we get a new crank pulley?
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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I would assume it would be based off the stock crank pulley but that brings up a good question. How will this system work with other pullies? Since most people out there have larger crank pullies will they need to revert back to a stock pulley or will the new supercharger and tuning setup (well mainly tuning) allow for a larger crank pulley and just result in more hp/tq from the increased boost over the stock crank pulley?
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Weistec: I bet you havent done an ML55 yet... Im ready and will give you all the press you need!! Trust me I know about pushing a platform to the max, lets chat.
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Old Jan 15, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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My big concern with this is will it clear the stock hood? The blower is way larger the the stock one, and the whole reason we have seperat sloped surge tansk is do to hood clearance and packaging in the engine bay. Interested in hearing if this will all fit with the stock hood.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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Well considering they have a blower fitted in the car in that one pic and haven't said anything about a problem with fitment one would think it clears. Having to get a different hood would be kind of a big deal, not for the fact of having to buy a hood and have it painted but to have to run some crazy looking hood on the car. I can't imagine in 100 years that Weistec would have that be the case.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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BTT - Updates?

I'm not holding my breath....


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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Rumors are the kit would sell for close to 13k
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Rumors are the kit would sell for close to 13k
that's pretty much what my estimate has been all along. and that would still be a bargin imho
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Rumors abound... Supposedly they've had an E55 Weistec running around data-logging/testing for couple months.. I'm Rick James! Get ready b_itches
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:15 AM
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Well Weistec has come up with the 63 blower so I think they're not just playing around on this and the cooling and capacity advantages are gonna really send the 55 engine in another league.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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At $13K with good numbers I'm interested.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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My guess is $10k or less
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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I can see 10k but 13k is just too much.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
I can see 10k but 13k is just too much.
I think 10k is still too much, look at the amount of new members we get daily that buy the car for 20g, thats half the amount of the car, I understand that at one point the car was 100k but not anymore, maybe 10k-13 would be good if it was an E63 thats still in the 50k range but for a car that now can be easily totaled out by your insurance company I dont see it worth it
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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It all depends on how much HP it delivers.....

What do people spend now for a parts combination that gives them 500RWHP? What about 550RWHP? Can you even get to 600RWHP now regardless of costs???

What is the cost/HP ratio for those conventional mods? $50/HP? $80/HP? $100/HP ??? How does that compare to the cost/HP of the Weistec solution? (without a RWHP number and pricing, we don't know)

This will create a strange dynamic in the E55 world. For guys with a bone-stock E55....you can go a single, expensive mod and probably outperform all of the Stage3 & Stage4 cars in one big step. The guys who are already modded will probably have to sell off some existing "old school" mods to install the Weistec instead. The "FOR SALE" forums will be fun to watch in the coming months!!!

Then again, the Weistec may deliver so much power that it completely blows out the bottom-end of these motors.... suddenly it's a MUCH more expensive proposition.


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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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I'm thinking if they do this right with good HP number and they are safe then it's a done deal. we don't even have safe high HP numbers now.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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WEISTEC: I can only imagine you dont have an ML55 test car yet. I will offer my vehicle as a test bed. My local Mercedes Benz Tech will do the complete install at my cost, I will cover cost of local dyno time and document every inch of the install with pics and HD video. Lets do this.

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Originally Posted by 02S430
I think 10k is still too much, look at the amount of new members we get daily that buy the car for 20g, thats half the amount of the car, I understand that at one point the car was 100k but not anymore, maybe 10k-13 would be good if it was an E63 thats still in the 50k range but for a car that now can be easily totaled out by your insurance company I dont see it worth it
i dont think cost of NEW parts works that way... when you're airmatic fails does MB sell you the parts for 5 times less now because the 100K car is worth 5 times less now?

what is the new cost of the factory w211 s/c ? whatever it is, then a newly designed more powerful one with i/c should cost more than the older factory one

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i dont think cost of NEW parts works that way... when you're airmatic fails does MB sell you the parts for 5 times less now because the 100K car is worth 5 times less now?
ok but you can get airmatic parts from arnott that are better then OEM that are less, plus airmatic came with the car and wasnt designed 9 years after the first M113k engine came out and mind you kleemann had a blower out way before and when the value was still high may not have been for the M113k that already had a blower. but why can you buy a whipple which is the same concept for a mustang which only $4g
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Originally Posted by 02S430
I think 10k is still too much, look at the amount of new members we get daily that buy the car for 20g, thats half the amount of the car, I understand that at one point the car was 100k but not anymore, maybe 10k-13 would be good if it was an E63 thats still in the 50k range but for a car that now can be easily totaled out by your insurance company I dont see it worth it
+1 i can see for 63 engine since they don't have SC. Investing $10K to $13K for E55 which already have different SC set up not really worth it. For early W212 or late W211 63 worth to compare the new V8TT. I don't really think the E55 with this new SC kit will perform better 63 SC so keep in mind that the #HP won't be too high. (IMO)
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Plus, you still need to upgrade the fuel rail or with that power what will happen to the engine ?
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