I love my car, and think its amazing ...but I'm experiencing mixed feeling with Mercedes and the quality of their products. I use to believe that Mercedes build durable, rough, solid cars ... Unfortunately this is gradually fading away!

I had an Audi 2009 TTS which I gave to my brother, because I needed more space for the family... So I get the 2008 E63 and my dad a new 2012 CLS63.
Also we have a couple of 3 series at the company. And a 2012 A7 for my

Never had a BMW myself, but so far the quality of these cars is amazing. The Audis, by far the best interior design and electronics.... Great diving position on both brands.

Yesterday my keylees door handle quit working, 3 weeks ago the thermostat housing had to be replaced ... The car had to be towed due to a complete coolant leak....

And to top it off I can't take the head-bolt issue out of my head. ....every morning I hear the ticking sound (which according to my dealer is normal) .. I'm worried all the time and not enjoying the car... Like always pending if something wrong is going to happen ... I avoid many times flooring the pedal.

The damn MB dealers haven't help either ... So far not good experiences with them.... I can't trust them.

I bought a 1972 280SE 4.5 which I expect to receive in a couple of weeks.... I'm sure this was a good MB which made MB fame...


I really wish I could just use the car and enjoy it, and not to worry.

Btw, only 23000 miles on it and had it since new.

 

Apparently the ticking noise when cold IS normal...my wifes ML350 does the same thing and works fine and I've heard other 63's do it as well with zero issues.

Just drive it and beat on it and be happy destroying the competition.

 

Bought mine new now at 122,000 miles there is still a valve tick very light on cold start up. I ignore it now.

 

Alot of E63 owners ran into problems and continue to run into problems as you described. I myself wanted a newer AMG, but ended up getting the E55 instead. My decision weighed in factors that the E63 had and searching this board and reading up on posts for over a year, I decided on the E55.

I feel your pain in the issues you keep having. Maybe trade it in if you can for something else?

 

Main reason I didnt get a ML63 over the X5M... Read about alot of problems especially with the 63s for some reason. I ended up having alot of problems with my E55 by the end and I just didnt want to put up with it anymore. I feel your pain man.

 

HAHAHAHAHA Audi, hahahahah every independent mechanic I have known agrees they make the cheapest cars of the bunch. when you open them up everything is stamped with a VW logo.

Your events are unfortunate but rememeber what you are expecting of the car. 510hp, daily driver, extermely comfortable, track ready, safe, reliable, electronically advanced. At some point certain things are going to have to give.

Mercedes Benz is engineering excellence, that is why they make everything from Garbage trucks, taxis, semis, Super cars and 400k luxury sedans. No other automaker in the world does this outside of possibly Volvo which is lacking on the highend spectrum and possibly GM.

I have had issues with my E63 but to sit behind the wheel of a Mercedes with one of the largest if not the largest displacement motors ever produced = PRICELESS

 

You should sell your 63 to get another vw. Your dad made the right decision though

If one is DYI or has a lot of $$$, he should be comfort to drive a Benz. If not, it's better to drive a civic jk

 

Corvette does it with a bulletproof drivetrain. Not a luxury car, but a daily driven, track ready, safe, comfyish monster.

 

I sell VWs and owned a 2002 1.8T passat as well as a 2006 VR6 Lux and I love the cars. I personally had no problems with either of them and the 2002 had 225k miles on it and only ever had an oil pump go out lol

 

Sell your current E63 and buy another(less miles) E63, you won't be dissapointed. Oh and BTW, drive the ***** out of it(in a nice way), thats what makes all the difference.

 

You kinda went a bit overboard with the "largest displacement" comment but yes....it is priceless....lol.

 

LOL Yeah I think the 8.1 liter in my old 2500HD is bigger?... Not sure though


Just jokes

 

I understand your concern, but if you really want a car that you don't have to worry about and it will always be there for you day after day, get a Honda Accord. But when you start getting into high horsepower cars with tons of electronics, you have to be prepared to strap in for a wild ride. 'Thank God you didn't opt for a Ferrari. Your mechanic would soon be your best friend because those cars are constantly in need of this or that. But you seem to have quite a stable of cars. Let me know if you are doing any adopting !!!!
Take a deep breath, strap in and just enjoy !!

 

Unfortunately they (MB or any other brand) don't pay me for being an inconditional fan .... I enjoy cars very much and I'm passionate about them .. but I'm not a blind hoolingan on any brand.

They have to earn my preference, not the other way around! .. We pay a lot of money for their products and in exchange we can demand quality.

We have had many cars in the family, some of them expensive...

A beautiful 2006 Maserati Quattroporte GTS - a POS semiautomatic gearbox.. we get rid of it in less than a year.

3 A6's, an A7, a 2006 TT, the 2009 TTS .... We must have been very lucky, but no problems with these cars. ... Yes a VW, but I dont see anything wrong with that... they also own Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Bentley!!!

funny story: 2007 Q7 .. mom's car, only lasted like 6 months and was exchanged for a Cadillac Escalade ... and after a couple of months with a Toyota Sienna! ... her arguments: the Q7 was very tought on the road and not comfty on back seat (i agree), the cadillac a monster ... the Sienna? nobody dares to touch or say anything about her minivan, funny to see somebody with a driver on a Minivan ... She loves the back space - a clear example of unbranded thinking.

... VW is a bigger group, has all the range, even impresive super cars like the Bugatti, the Aventador or the R8. Nissan also has a wide range. Ford. etc

Anyhow, I love my Mercedes E63 and its the car I want to have.. I like this design more than anything ... I even like it way more than my dad's new CLS63 ... otherwise I would have one. Also I don't like the new E series, will choose a 5 series instead.

That's why Im mad and disappointed ... I want to have this car for many years and I want it to be bullet proof .. Im not against maintaining it properly! I want it to be a classic in 30 years

But I hate Mercedes Benz dealers and people in charge for not making me feel at ease with my car...

I think I feel better now....

 

i am sure your mechanics must think bugatti veryon and lamborghini's are cheap cars too since they also have VW stamped all over the engines since they are also made by Audi/VW since they are part of VAG (volkswagon audi group)... btw the buggatti's engine is basically 2 audi twin turbored v8's graphted together to make a 16 cyl quad turbo....

oh and the 3rd fastest time ever around the Nürburgring is in an audi powered car (gumpert apollo)

yep them audi's are cheap cars like the bugatti's and lambos

 

Couldn't have said it better.

 

that MB reliability and build quality are far superior to that of Audi, you need to wake up. I hate to say it, after driving these cars for over 30 years now, but the Audi build quality, and more importantly, the quality of the raw materials, is superior to what MB is doing. Not to mention that mb seems to think they need to build a vehicle that satisfies every single customer on the planet--thereby cheapening the brand.
My son in law has worked for BMW USA for several years and management are all in agreement. The brand that they are concerned about is not MB, who they think have lost their way--but Audi, who has really turned up the heat.
Just my .02 which is exactly what it's worth....

 

You are so right and I compare MY (bought new vet) the MY MB.

The vet has needed one a/c tension pulley and one oil pressure sending unit in 92,000 of driving some on the race track at VHS.

The MB driven by my wife little grandmother has needed..

SBC, complete air suspension all 4 corners, and the list goes on and on and on. ...........

If the corvette is such a hard driver and it is and it is so reliable why isn't the MB?.. UMMM




Note my avitar on the race track me driving.

 

NO question GM makes some durable products. Knock on wood I am glad you have a trouble free corvette. I also owned a TBSS with a LS2, it spun a rod bearing at 14,XXX miles. Then i decided to stroke out the motor to a 402. It was an awesome truck and I will buy another LS based motor car.

However, I wouldnt compare a Vette to a Mercedes because the interior build quality is not the same. However GM uses a Dry Sump system on a $60k Vette while Benz only offers this on a SLS last I checked (Fail Mercedes!).

Most durable American car I have ever owned tho 2003 Terminator Cobra Sonic Blue (& any I6 Cast Iron block Jeep). That car was bullet proof and could make HUGE numbers on the stock block and build (Combination of Forged and Cast Iron).

as for Audi to each his own, BMW aspires to compete with Mercedes Benz in terms of units sold. Clearly Audi is eating BMW market share because AUDI is the "it" car right now for 20 to 35 somethings. BMW should be worried. As for interior quality, the electrical issue will come in your AUDI, dont worry, its still a VW. As for Lambo and Bugatti, i could careless for either. The only VW owned exotic I would consider tomorrow is a Porsche and it is barely a VW. Ferrari over LAMBO any day!

It is your money enjoy it where you want. My money will never go to AUDI, VW, LAMBO, or Bugatti, its all I am saying

 

Audis IMO are not built to stand the test of time as well as a MB. Trust me, I own several of them. I can rant on about all the problems ive had but it will just be way too much to read