Official Weistec M113K 3.0L Supercharger, PICTURES INSIDE!!!
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Ted I agree 110%
I hate how this forum has become....
It used to be that forums used to be to help out the community, us , the members, but now it seems that we are forced by vendors to either protect them or even down play how crappy their products , tunes or service is, so say the truth
To the guy with the weistec from south africa..Bro your engine blew up, that's not speculation , if the engine blew up it blew up
I hate how this forum has become....
It used to be that forums used to be to help out the community, us , the members, but now it seems that we are forced by vendors to either protect them or even down play how crappy their products , tunes or service is, so say the truth
To the guy with the weistec from south africa..Bro your engine blew up, that's not speculation , if the engine blew up it blew up
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Personally I've been building and modifying cars my entire life and don't expect companies to hold themselves liable for anything in the event of a failure. It's the nature of modifying a vehicle that when tweaking it to do things that it was never intended to do that catastrophe is possible. I know not everyone agrees with me but most often it's a fruitless expenditure of resources to seek reimbursement. I've been however pleasantly surprised a few times.
I remember around 2006-2007 Air Flow Research produced cylinder heads for LS1 engines that had valves installed that were not heat treated properly. The tip of the stem would slowly wear away causing loose lifter preload and noisy valve train. AFR not only re-valves the heads, but paid for labor and gaskets and coolant to have a shop R+R them for the customer.
That doesn't happen very often.
Remember how badly Mercedes **** on everyone who bought a 2.7 V6 powered sludge mobile in the early 2000s? They voided warranties on everything they could, to avoid having to replace thousands of 20 and 30k mile engines that were failing due to faulty engineering.
I remember around 2006-2007 Air Flow Research produced cylinder heads for LS1 engines that had valves installed that were not heat treated properly. The tip of the stem would slowly wear away causing loose lifter preload and noisy valve train. AFR not only re-valves the heads, but paid for labor and gaskets and coolant to have a shop R+R them for the customer.
That doesn't happen very often.
Remember how badly Mercedes **** on everyone who bought a 2.7 V6 powered sludge mobile in the early 2000s? They voided warranties on everything they could, to avoid having to replace thousands of 20 and 30k mile engines that were failing due to faulty engineering.
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This is not about companies being liable to replace anything however weistecs whole pitch was a good product with their safe tune and if something goes bad they blame anything and everything
This goes for tuners as well
Speak up that's what the forum is for
This goes for tuners as well
Speak up that's what the forum is for
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Companies have a tendency to think the customer f-ed it up regardless if it was their product that failed, and customers have a tendency to want a company to pay for a mistake that they themselves made. I'm speaking in general about the performance industry not Weistec.
In the end, it is what it is.. Charge it to the game and fix it:jest:
In the end, it is what it is.. Charge it to the game and fix it:jest:
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sounds like his car had issues long before he installed the wiestec....
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...se-advise.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...se-advise.html
There was nothing wrong with his car in that thread the dyno was not calibrated
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correct Savman
this is about people speaking up about a product that many here are drooling over and think everything is fine, he is not the only one with problems, so this might make people speak up, after 8000+$ i would be pissed especially after all the hoopla
this is about people speaking up about a product that many here are drooling over and think everything is fine, he is not the only one with problems, so this might make people speak up, after 8000+$ i would be pissed especially after all the hoopla
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and imagine if they did this (quote below) again when they installed the wiestec blower... you think that might have negative ramifications?
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Gents,the vehicle in question is mine. We have had issues this side but I am currently working closely with Weistec with a view to resolving them. I will, in due course, publish a full review. In the meantime I'd be grateful if you would all resist the temptation to speculate.
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oh really pigboy, how many motors has another tuner on this forum blown up???
go back to the barn pigboy
IF OE would blow up MY engine, you can bet I would be here saying it and not hiding the fact, like you would bacon head
go back to the barn pigboy
IF OE would blow up MY engine, you can bet I would be here saying it and not hiding the fact, like you would bacon head
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Risk taker or risk averse??? That's the question I ask myself every time I do something. As for modding my car I want a fast reliable car. Im content where it is at the moment. Always will be a faster car. I don't want my car to be down for awhile and not able to enjoy it.
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I think it's easy to confuse two things here. First is a defective product, if you by the SC Kit, part of it breaks and destroys your engine or you can prove that it's bad tuning(almost impossible to prove) then ya the company is responsible and should be paying to make it right! Second is original part failures, if you slap on the SC Kit and you crack a piston due to the obviously higher cylinder pressures, then no your engine failed because you as the consumer modified it and pushed beyond the original design capability. I see a lot of people mixing these two ideas together and the fact is they're completely different situations.
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Hulk, we don't know exactly who you are or what your agenda is, but there are clearly some parts of the picture you are missing.
As a company we feel we are very open and truthful of our results and we are in fact very conservative with our products. You can form what ever opinion you want, and in the end you can also publically speak out about them.
We have a commitment to our customers to give them the best possible customer service and to help understand what exactly happens in all situations. As the owner of the car said, we are working together to understand the situation and take it from there.
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As a company we feel we are very open and truthful of our results and we are in fact very conservative with our products. You can form what ever opinion you want, and in the end you can also publically speak out about them.
We have a commitment to our customers to give them the best possible customer service and to help understand what exactly happens in all situations. As the owner of the car said, we are working together to understand the situation and take it from there.
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what is there to understand, this is an issue that is not only with your company but every vendor lately...the secretive hush hush stuff
his motor blew up, admit it, whether you are trying to figure it out or not is not the issue, why would people want to buy anything right now and have another engine go boom is not too smart...so the question to you to answer for everyone is, is his engine blown up or not, and be honest because the truth WILL come out
his motor blew up, admit it, whether you are trying to figure it out or not is not the issue, why would people want to buy anything right now and have another engine go boom is not too smart...so the question to you to answer for everyone is, is his engine blown up or not, and be honest because the truth WILL come out
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That's why I log the isht out of my setup, if it blows up I can be 100% sure it wasn't the tuners fault because I check every tune that goes into my car. I understand some people here don't know much about cars and would prefer their tuners to do everything for them, which is fine...but it's a risk you take. Modifying a car alone is a risk in it's self, isht happens no matter how careful you are.
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what is there to understand, this is an issue that is not only with your company but every vendor lately...the secretive hush hush stuff
his motor blew up, admit it, whether you are trying to figure it out or not is not the issue, why would people want to buy anything right now and have another engine go boom is not too smart...so the question to you to answer for everyone is, is his engine blown up or not, and be honest because the truth WILL come out
his motor blew up, admit it, whether you are trying to figure it out or not is not the issue, why would people want to buy anything right now and have another engine go boom is not too smart...so the question to you to answer for everyone is, is his engine blown up or not, and be honest because the truth WILL come out
We are not hush hush about anything we do. There are occasionally a few reasons why companies are such as new product development. Past this we are pretty transparent. Our doors are open everyday and we always welcome visitors.
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ok, well you still have not asnwered the question, did his motor blow up, yes or no?
do not think I am singling you out, it is just that this happened and everyone is/was hush hush about it, your product is not a 200-300$ or even a 1000$ item, that is easy to make up but when you are past 8000$ some would be hurting for that
do not think I am singling you out, it is just that this happened and everyone is/was hush hush about it, your product is not a 200-300$ or even a 1000$ item, that is easy to make up but when you are past 8000$ some would be hurting for that
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ok, well you still have not asnwered the question, did his motor blow up, yes or no?
do not think I am singling you out, it is just that this happened and everyone is/was hush hush about it, your product is not a 200-300$ or even a 1000$ item, that is easy to make up but when you are past 8000$ some would be hurting for that
do not think I am singling you out, it is just that this happened and everyone is/was hush hush about it, your product is not a 200-300$ or even a 1000$ item, that is easy to make up but when you are past 8000$ some would be hurting for that
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Stfu moron
His motor was fine before he put the Weistec on, they don't even want to admit that it happened, how about admitting that their tune has lean conditions all over the place
Go back down under loser
His motor was fine before he put the Weistec on, they don't even want to admit that it happened, how about admitting that their tune has lean conditions all over the place
Go back down under loser
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