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Official Weistec M113K 3.0L Supercharger, PICTURES INSIDE!!!

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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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So bb, when is yours going to ship
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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@zod it's a floater it's under S/C very little contact with heat sources and larger.

Im surprised no posted dyno charts or power graphs.
I'm sure all of that has been done and tested to get this far.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Roverron
@zod it's a floater it's under S/C very little contact with heat sources and larger.

Im surprised no posted dyno charts or power graphs.
I'm sure all of that has been done and tested to get this far.
I was referring to the additional HE they provided with the 63, then it just hit me, we are set up for a SC where as they are not. Guess they re-use stock ones, the rest of us with split cooling & additional HE's can still utilize what we have and provide even better cooling options.
  • Need dyno graphs
  • How/If they plan to seal that intake, as it will suck up heat/ more dust?
    Guess they did this to fit cross platforms, as it might have fitment issues going from E/CLS/SL/S etc

Bonus things to come
  • Smaller supercharger pulley
  • Oil catch can
  • Trunk ice Tank
  • Possible Forged internal
  • Trans strengthening

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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by betrezra
So bb, when is yours going to ship
I couldn't order on the site and waiting on response from Weistec
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
I couldn't order on the site and waiting on response from Weistec
That's such a horrible tease!

At least this 3.0L makes up for selling your Kleemann.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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I can't wait to see this supercharger in action in a 55K car.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
I can't wait to see this supercharger in action in a 55K car.
and the pending blown trans to go with it. Time to upgrade the trans now as it will go.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pearlpower
and the pending blown trans to go with it. Time to upgrade the trans now as it will go.
One thing at a time...lol.

One could always raise the amount of torque management these cars have to save the tranny. On my Pontiac Grand Prix my auto started to slip with only 280whp or so...I raised the amount of timing it subtracted during shifts and it solved the problem entirely. Nearly 400whp and still no slip.

We could the same to our cars but the shifts will feel mushier, laggier....but it'll hold.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Very nice! Can't wait to see these out on the road. It's going to be CRAZY!
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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So I guess this gives us something to run with the new TT's?? Yes?! That will be a interesting fun race to watch!
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
Sun, you in
Not 100% just yet my friend. Some big things coming up in the somewhat near future that I need to concentrate more on.

The TT AMG's have been lookin mighty fun lately too...

Decisions decision...

I'll wait and see how great it runs on your car first bud!

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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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I would not mind one in the future, but I plan to sit back and watch how these blowers fair on other owners cars for a while first
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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I'm right there with you Craig, I've been a test dummy plenty of times up until now.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I would not mind one in the future, but I plan to sit back and watch how these blowers fair on other owners cars for a while first
Originally Posted by PACougar
I'm right there with you Craig, I've been a test dummy plenty of times up until now.
Me too. I'll see how it turns out and I'll decide then. Can't wait!
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OCKlasse
Praise to Weistec for this kit.

I have to say though, I am a little skeptical of their stellar reputation. I referred a contact to Weistec for a tune on his M157 because of the professionalism and quality they (appear to) exude. He was planning on originally going with a Renntech tune before I more or less convinced him to check out Weistec's tune. Long story short, it was a very unsatisfying experience for him. It made me look bad for referring him to Weistec because of how poorly he was treated and the damage done.

My point is, before you all spend a lot of money for this kit, see it in person, and maybe get to know them a little bit better. I'm not saying that everyone has poor experiences with them, and I'm sure it must be a rarity, but I can only speak from his experience, and because of that, I don't think I could do business with them.
I've actually been leaning toward getting the Weistec tune for my M157, but reading this scares me a bit. Care to elaborate any further, possibly in a separate thread?
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 03:01 AM
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Very Very Awesome!

Question: Any Issues with removing the Magnet S/C clutch assembly that is there form the factory? Does it mess with drive-ability? Tune compensate?
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 03:51 AM
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It probably drives better with the clutch removed, especially those with upgraded pulley ratios on their stock blower. The jerkiness associated with the clutch engaging will likely be gone.

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Very Very Awesome!

Question: Any Issues with removing the Magnet S/C clutch assembly that is there form the factory? Does it mess with drive-ability? Tune compensate?
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 05:31 AM
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Couple of thoughts ....

Two smaller twin TB's could have been used and more thought could have gone into the air intake having smaller twin filters either side of the S/C, making probably a more efficient setup and improving the aesthetics too. So a T type intake feeding the S/C.

Air intake ducting is also needed to feed the filter/s. Sucking that air in the cabin is far from ideal - and it hardly seems difficult to implement either. A smaller / thinner twin filter arrangement would make this easier too I think.

No bypass valve is going to be interesting... deleted from tune? How will this affect drivability? The CLK-DTM had this deleted so it can be done.

TBH I would first like to see a running example and dyno runs with all stats incl IAT's etc etc

1000HP... hmm well I hope so but at mom I am a little scepticle.

Reckon forged pistons a minimum upgrade for power >750... nd we will soon see where the weak links are in this motor.

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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 05:43 AM
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What you say will only drive the price higher so if it ain't broke...you know.

Also, this supercharger DOES use the bypass valve.

Originally Posted by stevebez
Couple of thoughts ....

Two smaller twin TB's could have been used and more thought could have gone into the air intake having smaller twin filters either side of the S/C, making probably a more efficient setup and improving the aesthetics too. So a T type intake feeding the S/C.

Air intake ducting is also needed to feed the filter/s. Sucking that air in the cabin is far from ideal - and it hardly seems difficult to implement either. A twin filter arrangement would make this easier too I think.

No bypass valve is going to be interesting... deleted from tune? How will this affect drivability? The CLK-DTM had this deleted so it can be done.

TBH I would first like to see a running example and dyno runs with all stats incl IAT's etc etc

1000HP... hmm well I hope so but at mom I am a little scepticle.
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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Yup you right, misread that initially.

Seems a mod of this mod could also easily be done if so required.
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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With a bypass valve you don't need a clutch on the s/c. I've always hated the heavy clutch design on the stock s/c. Also a really good point that the weistec kit drops 50lbs where we need to loose weight the most.
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Big thumbs up for Weistec!
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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How compatible is the transmission from a SL65 with our cars? Is it as "easy" as switching bell housings?
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Wait, dont some of you guys roll around catless, and now you're worried about CARB legality?

Just put it on.
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