what's the most power (RWHP) out of a factory blower?
08-16-2015, 11:49 PM
#78
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chawkins and a non forum member down here in Miami.
Here's a vid of me and Frank. Has was running nos also just not on these runs. This is a couple years ago, when I organized a dyno day with Eurocharged. My car was camera car.
Here's a vid of me and Frank. Has was running nos also just not on these runs. This is a couple years ago, when I organized a dyno day with Eurocharged. My car was camera car.
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08-17-2015, 11:01 AM
#80
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
the difference between people on MBWorld and you? we can have the valet park our car. once i decide to gut my car like a honda civic and Frankenstein the living sh*t out of it.......i will be your #1 fan boy. until then, keep your stupid as* comments to people who give a sh*t. [/COLOR]
I'm not on here to brag about what cars I have and how much money etc etc. I'm on here to further the platform and try to go faster. My car is gutted? Have you seen my car? No. You don't say anything about the other record holding cars (gutted with missing trunk and mirrors and who knows what else) but jump all over mine when I take seats out and call it gutted (FYI I have run faster than you with full stock interior as well). Regardless we share the same motor and guess who's makes more power? I will give you 1 guess
. How is it Frankensteined? I guess the judges at these car shows must have been blind
Here is the car on the street with drag radials. I guarantee you my car is faster than yours in street trim
Here is one of my other cars that I'm pretty sure I can "valet".
Hate on haters
Cool and good to know. We have found someone overseas that will get us the software and train us for 4500$. I know a couple of pretty good automotive tuners in the country thru out my travels. I'd just like to make like 700-750whp with it at some point. The car would be pretty fun. Just have to decide which way i want to go with it.
They say if you don't have any haters you haven't accomplished anything
08-17-2015, 11:07 AM
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08-17-2015, 06:14 PM
#82
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It's a small world!!
FYI, it's GREAT being Seminole!!
And just so that you don't sound so stupid, the Seminole Tribe of FL is the ONLY tribe that has NEVER signed a peace treaty with the government. So we don't get **** from them. But the Seminole Tribe does own the HardRock franchise and I do enjoy the benefits of that.
#stayjealuos
FYI, it's GREAT being Seminole!!
And just so that you don't sound so stupid, the Seminole Tribe of FL is the ONLY tribe that has NEVER signed a peace treaty with the government. So we don't get **** from them. But the Seminole Tribe does own the HardRock franchise and I do enjoy the benefits of that.
#stayjealuos
Lol me jealous of your 10.2 Haha!! when you run a 9.6 on 20" rims and a 6speed come Holla at me or foot shift a nitrous hayabusa and run 8.7 then you can say that your actually "fast" until then sit yo a** down.
Only real reason I involved my self in this conversation is because HULK is a good guy and gives help out to everyone unlike you.
08-17-2015, 06:24 PM
#83
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wow, elliot... You car moves out.
I really would like to run e85 on my car, especially since it isnt a daily. I guess I have to read up on how to do it.
I really would like to run e85 on my car, especially since it isnt a daily. I guess I have to read up on how to do it.
08-17-2015, 08:16 PM
#84
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If the tuner is smart. Just need to rescale fuel map 30% when you get into boost. A little less than that with no boost but still more than gas. You can also run more timing at part throttle and run e85 leaner at part throttle driving to gain some milaege back as e85 don't detonate like gas does. E85 will also eliminate the need for meth on a factory blower and the power will repeat for many many many many many pulls in a row. E85 is KING i've been using and tuning with it since 2005 which was really the forfront of when it started to be seen in fast cars! A/f on e85 would need to be about 11.6 on a gas scale.
08-17-2015, 08:41 PM
#85
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also when running the 82mm tb. Can a person just buy the t.b or do you have to replace the back case inlet part of blower as per eurocharged's web site in the pics..
08-17-2015, 09:25 PM
#86
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08-17-2015, 10:22 PM
#87
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No matter how you put it you get FREE money..
Lol me jealous of your 10.2 Haha!! when you run a 9.6 on 20" rims and a 6speed come Holla at me or foot shift a nitrous hayabusa and run 8.7 then you can say that your actually "fast" until then sit yo a** down.
Only real reason I involved my self in this conversation is because HULK is a good guy and gives help out to everyone unlike you.
Lol me jealous of your 10.2 Haha!! when you run a 9.6 on 20" rims and a 6speed come Holla at me or foot shift a nitrous hayabusa and run 8.7 then you can say that your actually "fast" until then sit yo a** down.
Only real reason I involved my self in this conversation is because HULK is a good guy and gives help out to everyone unlike you.
I'll give you a little secret, since you are still bi+ching........
THERE ARE TWO RULES TO SUCCESS
1) NEVER reveal all you know
2)
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08-17-2015, 10:23 PM
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08-17-2015, 10:39 PM
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08-17-2015, 10:44 PM
#90
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I ran it for two years brotha, and will list my pros and cons:
Pros:
- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.
Those were the only pros for me.
Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.
Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
Pros:
- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.
Those were the only pros for me.
Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.
Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
08-18-2015, 12:28 AM
#91
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E85 is amazing fuel and great benefits. But, I had a feeling it would be a challenge to run on our cars. Never knew exactly. BUt, just had that feeling it would be PITA. Thanks for sharing Craig!
If anyone could get it to run right it would be you for sure! Jeezus that is a a lot of power you made, that torque is insane!! Could you do 50mph rolling start races and not blow the rear tires off on street tires?
If anyone could get it to run right it would be you for sure! Jeezus that is a a lot of power you made, that torque is insane!! Could you do 50mph rolling start races and not blow the rear tires off on street tires?
08-18-2015, 09:46 AM
#93
Super Member
If the tuner is smart. Just need to rescale fuel map 30% when you get into boost. A little less than that with no boost but still more than gas. You can also run more timing at part throttle and run e85 leaner at part throttle driving to gain some milaege back as e85 don't detonate like gas does. E85 will also eliminate the need for meth on a factory blower and the power will repeat for many many many many many pulls in a row. E85 is KING i've been using and tuning with it since 2005 which was really the forfront of when it started to be seen in fast cars! A/f on e85 would need to be about 11.6 on a gas scale.
08-18-2015, 09:48 AM
#94
Super Member
I ran it for two years brotha, and will list my pros and cons:
Pros:
- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.
Those were the only pros for me.
Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.
Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
Pros:
- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.
Those were the only pros for me.
Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.
Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
08-18-2015, 10:46 AM
#96
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That was on the factory blower, iats still went through the roof on the corn. I was running meth for iat cooling too as a FYI. That did get the temps back in check.
08-18-2015, 12:52 PM
#97
Super Member
I ran it for two years brotha, and will list my pros and cons:
Pros:
- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.
Those were the only pros for me.
Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand. I had the same pair in my tank for two years (including sitting in the winter), only replaced out of curiosity.
-Would not crank under 50* F I have video of my car starting perfectly fine at 7*F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs. I'm running ID1000s and it doesn't surge but I do get a wandering idle
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.
I'm converting to return style, but after the pressures I've seen at the rail... I think most people should
Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
Pros:
- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.
Those were the only pros for me.
Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand. I had the same pair in my tank for two years (including sitting in the winter), only replaced out of curiosity.
-Would not crank under 50* F I have video of my car starting perfectly fine at 7*F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs. I'm running ID1000s and it doesn't surge but I do get a wandering idle
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.
I'm converting to return style, but after the pressures I've seen at the rail... I think most people should
Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
You wouldn't see IAT gains during datalogging because the fuel itself is not any cooler... the latent energy is less so within the combustion chamber (obviously after the IAT sensor), the engine will experience a cooler burn.
08-18-2015, 02:30 PM
#99
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Thread Starter
You wouldn't see IAT gains during datalogging because the fuel itself is not any cooler... the latent energy is less so within the combustion chamber (obviously after the IAT sensor), the engine will experience a cooler burn.[/QUOTE]
I'll correct you a little here^^ You can not see the gains of e85 (ie) the cooling effect of the alcohol in it because its downsteam of the iac temp sensor when its brought into the intake port and the cooling happens when its mixed before it enters combustion chamber. There are major gains from it tho. Alcohol is a colder fuel than gasoline so you can't really say its not. E85 is Corn alcohol. I have stuff right out of the plant that is drinkable. It's gross cause it taste like Corn
Also e85 does start like sh it when below 50 degrees. That's why winter blend is e70-75... I have cars that start well below 50 degress it's all in the tune. We also run up to 220cc inj with e85 on street cars and they don't surge or do stupid stuff at idle. Again that would be tuning issue with running the inj duty cycle that low.
I'll correct you a little here^^ You can not see the gains of e85 (ie) the cooling effect of the alcohol in it because its downsteam of the iac temp sensor when its brought into the intake port and the cooling happens when its mixed before it enters combustion chamber. There are major gains from it tho. Alcohol is a colder fuel than gasoline so you can't really say its not. E85 is Corn alcohol. I have stuff right out of the plant that is drinkable. It's gross cause it taste like Corn
Also e85 does start like sh it when below 50 degrees. That's why winter blend is e70-75... I have cars that start well below 50 degress it's all in the tune. We also run up to 220cc inj with e85 on street cars and they don't surge or do stupid stuff at idle. Again that would be tuning issue with running the inj duty cycle that low.
08-18-2015, 02:33 PM
#100
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Thread Starter
We run the af around 11.6 on most all blown applications on a gas scale. e85 is not hard to tune at all. just gotta have a tuner willing to learn a little.
