Finished conductor plate install and now won't move
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Finished conductor plate install and now won't move
Installed new conductor plate and connector and changed tranny fluid and filter with pentosin. After finishing it all, started car and shifted to reverse. Won't engage the gear. Won't go into drive either. It does nothing. That metal pin shaft is correctly inside that plastic piece and the fluid is at the correct level. We checked, double checked, and triple checked. That super long dipstick is almost useless, why'd they design it that way? We reinstalled the old but still functioning conductor plate and connector and it was the same. Not moving at all! It is throwing no codes and it'll connect to verus just fine and does the solenoid check fine which tells me it's communicating properly and not a connection issue. I also have DAS Xentry, it throws no codes for tranny whatsoever. Stumped. Already invested sooo much time and there's no solution in sight as of yet. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks all for any input.
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
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I have done this job, not fun. Sorry if this is a stupid suggestion, I know you said it is definitely seated correctly, but have you seen the gear selector rod actually moving from under the car when the shifter is moved into gear?
Did you do a full fluid change or just dump what you needed for the conductor plate?
Did you do a full fluid change or just dump what you needed for the conductor plate?
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Installed new conductor plate and connector and changed tranny fluid and filter with pentosin. After finishing it all, started car and shifted to reverse. Won't engage the gear. Won't go into drive either. It does nothing. That metal pin shaft is correctly inside that plastic piece and the fluid is at the correct level. We checked, double checked, and triple checked. That super long dipstick is almost useless, why'd they design it that way? We reinstalled the old but still functioning conductor plate and connector and it was the same. Not moving at all! It is throwing no codes and it'll connect to verus just fine and does the solenoid check fine which tells me it's communicating properly and not a connection issue. I also have DAS Xentry, it throws no codes for tranny whatsoever. Stumped. Already invested sooo much time and there's no solution in sight as of yet. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks all for any input.
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
The only clue I've found online for you is here: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w203...ml#post3793337
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Installed new conductor plate and connector and changed tranny fluid and filter with pentosin. After finishing it all, started car and shifted to reverse. Won't engage the gear. Won't go into drive either. It does nothing. That metal pin shaft is correctly inside that plastic piece and the fluid is at the correct level. We checked, double checked, and triple checked. That super long dipstick is almost useless, why'd they design it that way? We reinstalled the old but still functioning conductor plate and connector and it was the same. Not moving at all! It is throwing no codes and it'll connect to verus just fine and does the solenoid check fine which tells me it's communicating properly and not a connection issue. I also have DAS Xentry, it throws no codes for tranny whatsoever. Stumped. Already invested sooo much time and there's no solution in sight as of yet. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks all for any input.
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
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Installed new conductor plate and connector and changed tranny fluid and filter with pentosin. After finishing it all, started car and shifted to reverse. Won't engage the gear. Won't go into drive either. It does nothing. That metal pin shaft is correctly inside that plastic piece and the fluid is at the correct level. We checked, double checked, and triple checked. That super long dipstick is almost useless, why'd they design it that way? We reinstalled the old but still functioning conductor plate and connector and it was the same. Not moving at all! It is throwing no codes and it'll connect to verus just fine and does the solenoid check fine which tells me it's communicating properly and not a connection issue. I also have DAS Xentry, it throws no codes for tranny whatsoever. Stumped. Already invested sooo much time and there's no solution in sight as of yet. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks all for any input.
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
Car is 2005 E55 AMG
It can be easy to miss the groove on the plastic guide on the manual valve and get on one side or another. If gear position moves on dash, jack car up make sure its stable on 4 jack stands or lift. Then loosen the clip on the shift linkage lever on the side of the trans. Have someone put it in D right as you put it in D, Does it go?
Same for R make sure your timing is close on the shifts, unsure if there is any C-Can feedback on shifter lever compared to manual actuation by hand.
You will be able to feel with your hand better about whats going on. If its soft one way to go into D then you are prolly off and it just is sliding past without moving the valve would be my guess... Honestly without re-inspecting or seeing fluid level its hard to diagnose things like this.
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It can be easy to miss the groove on the plastic guide on the manual valve and get on one side or another. If gear position moves on dash, jack car up make sure its stable on 4 jack stands or lift. Then loosen the clip on the shift linkage lever on the side of the trans. Have someone put it in D right as you put it in D, Does it go?
Same for R make sure your timing is close on the shifts, unsure if there is any C-Can feedback on shifter lever compared to manual actuation by hand.
You will be able to feel with your hand better about whats going on. If its soft one way to go into D then you are prolly off and it just is sliding past without moving the valve would be my guess... Honestly without re-inspecting or seeing fluid level its hard to diagnose things like this.
Is the shift to R smooth or is there a harsh garage shift (clunk)?
Same for R make sure your timing is close on the shifts, unsure if there is any C-Can feedback on shifter lever compared to manual actuation by hand.
You will be able to feel with your hand better about whats going on. If its soft one way to go into D then you are prolly off and it just is sliding past without moving the valve would be my guess... Honestly without re-inspecting or seeing fluid level its hard to diagnose things like this.
Is the shift to R smooth or is there a harsh garage shift (clunk)?
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It can be easy to miss the groove on the plastic guide on the manual valve and get on one side or another. If gear position moves on dash, jack car up make sure its stable on 4 jack stands or lift. Then loosen the clip on the shift linkage lever on the side of the trans. Have someone put it in D right as you put it in D, Does it go?
Same for R make sure your timing is close on the shifts, unsure if there is any C-Can feedback on shifter lever compared to manual actuation by hand.
You will be able to feel with your hand better about whats going on. If its soft one way to go into D then you are prolly off and it just is sliding past without moving the valve would be my guess... Honestly without re-inspecting or seeing fluid level its hard to diagnose things like this.
Is the shift to R smooth or is there a harsh garage shift (clunk)?
Same for R make sure your timing is close on the shifts, unsure if there is any C-Can feedback on shifter lever compared to manual actuation by hand.
You will be able to feel with your hand better about whats going on. If its soft one way to go into D then you are prolly off and it just is sliding past without moving the valve would be my guess... Honestly without re-inspecting or seeing fluid level its hard to diagnose things like this.
Is the shift to R smooth or is there a harsh garage shift (clunk)?
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The gear shifter shifted super smooth and felt totally normal like it always has. Moving the lever thru the gears produces no fluctuation in rpm and makes no noise at all, but if you look at it on the lift with the tranny pan off while someone in the car moves the shifter back and forth, you can see the pin move the plastic body and it moves thru the gear selector notches perfectly when the lever is moved in the car. So frustrated in troubleshooting this
Just put " 722.6 .pdf " in google and get a copy of the manual it will show you exactly where they all go and give more intel than you could ever desire
Man, this is a dooozy
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did you have your new conductor plate married to the TCU? when i had mine installed my indy said he had to bring a guy in to program and sync the TCU with the conductor plate or the car wouldn't move. I have a E63 though.
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Luckily for half of us, that is an E63 issue since the TCU is inside the trans. E55 doesn't have the same problem, its just a pile of plastic with a few sensors and electrical conducting paths.
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Forgot to update this thread so here goes.
Whoever owned the car before me decided to put the red dipstick cap on the engine oil tube. The notes on how to fill tranny fluid stated the red cap tube is where the fluid goes and so the issue was all the *** tranny fluid was poured into the gosh darn crank case. Super upset with my Indy about that but what can I do? It's done, the mistake was made and caused me a lot of stress, but it's over now. The actual owner of the shop finally got involved and figured out that the tranny dipstick tube is out of sight on the back of the engine bay. So, he changed out the oil and filter on his own dime because of the mistake and filled the correct dipstick tube with fresh pentosin that he payed for as well.
So let me ask you guys,... how much did they hurt my motor by running it in the garage with wayyy too much oil in the crankcase and none in the transmission. It was only started and ran a few times to try and shift it out of gear, which of course it wouldn't do, but should I be worried about any long term damage here? This whole thing broke my heart as I'm trying to do everything right on this car .. please leave some comments as to wether or not I should be freaked out or not over this error of gross negligence.
Whoever owned the car before me decided to put the red dipstick cap on the engine oil tube. The notes on how to fill tranny fluid stated the red cap tube is where the fluid goes and so the issue was all the *** tranny fluid was poured into the gosh darn crank case. Super upset with my Indy about that but what can I do? It's done, the mistake was made and caused me a lot of stress, but it's over now. The actual owner of the shop finally got involved and figured out that the tranny dipstick tube is out of sight on the back of the engine bay. So, he changed out the oil and filter on his own dime because of the mistake and filled the correct dipstick tube with fresh pentosin that he payed for as well.
So let me ask you guys,... how much did they hurt my motor by running it in the garage with wayyy too much oil in the crankcase and none in the transmission. It was only started and ran a few times to try and shift it out of gear, which of course it wouldn't do, but should I be worried about any long term damage here? This whole thing broke my heart as I'm trying to do everything right on this car .. please leave some comments as to wether or not I should be freaked out or not over this error of gross negligence.
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at the beginning of this thread you stated that you checked,double checked and thripplechecked the fluid level and it was ok,as you filled the transfluid in the engine there must have been oil up to the cylinderheads!! there and you did not see that on the dipstick?
amazing....
amazing....
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at the beginning of this thread you stated that you checked,double checked and thripplechecked the fluid level and it was ok,as you filled the transfluid in the engine there must have been oil up to the cylinderheads!! there and you did not see that on the dipstick?
amazing....
amazing....
Now please, if someone (with appropriate candor and class) can offer some wisdom as to my last question about how worried I should be about the effects of this mistake, please do so.
I would not worry to much about it - double check the oil level and run it around without over revving for a couple of days and then change the oil and filter again you should be good to go.... I would look for another indy though
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I don't feel duccen was trolling your thread, being a jerk, insulting, or classless. Amazing, is charitable when describing what your "tech" did IMO. I appreciate the followup post explaining the solution, that is always helpful. I would recommend a short interval on your next oil change. Perhaps send out an oil sample now and start a history of what's actually going on inside the engine, with a follow up sample when you do your next oil change, and so on with every oil change. I'd be less concerned about the transmission, if it was truly only briefly run.
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+1 on no stress
+1 on short oil change interval (500 miles?)
May be a good time to justify a crank case/oil flush
Heard Good things about liquid moly products...
Hell, a can of Seafoam could dumped in right before your next oil change would give me peace of mind.
Happy you got to the bottom of it!
+1 on short oil change interval (500 miles?)
May be a good time to justify a crank case/oil flush
Heard Good things about liquid moly products...
Hell, a can of Seafoam could dumped in right before your next oil change would give me peace of mind.
Happy you got to the bottom of it!
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I don't feel duccen was trolling your thread, being a jerk, insulting, or classless. Amazing, is charitable when describing what your "tech" did IMO. I appreciate the followup post explaining the solution, that is always helpful. I would recommend a short interval on your next oil change. Perhaps send out an oil sample now and start a history of what's actually going on inside the engine, with a follow up sample when you do your next oil change, and so on with every oil change. I'd be less concerned about the transmission, if it was truly only briefly run.
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Trust me i have been down this road and it is a very easy mistake to make. when it says RED cap and you see a red cap and follow the tube somewhat it looks like it goes to the trans.
Any how change your oil NOW. not 100-500 miles....now !! It's cheap and piece of mind.
Any how change your oil NOW. not 100-500 miles....now !! It's cheap and piece of mind.
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Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I jumped to conclusions and took offense a bit soon, but I just felt his comment was in poor taste and a slam.. Maybe I'm wrong. I argued with the tech many times before I posted this thread to start with and I'm now blown away that he argued several times that He was certain he put hte right amount in and that it was correct. I wlll certainly do the oil change sooner than later. Where would I send an oil sample to?
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Blackstone Labs is often mentioned, cost something like $30. Google and then ask for a free collection kit. I would have been going crazy with this, so I understand where you were coming from.
