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Hey all,
I just got my 09 E63 and the rear roller shade on the pano roof is in the open position and doesn’t move at all. The front one works fine and there is no noise from the rear or movement whatsoever. The dealer thought it might be a bad motor, but didn’t take the time to diagnose it properly.
What I am in need of are any of the following if anyone knows:
1. Part number for the motor.
2. Pictures and location of the motor.
3. Instructions on how to replace the motor.
4. Illistrations, or videos that outline how to replace the rear pano motor etc...
I am not talking about the rear window shade, I am trying to fix the roller shade on the pano roof only.
Just out of curiosity, have you tried looking on YouTube? They had a DIYer on how to reset/re-synchronizing your Panoramic Roof.
Yes, I did see that video but it doesn’t help my situation at all. I tried pulling the #9 fuse in the trunk as well as the syncronization process for the roof, but the rear pano roller shade is simply dead and won’t move from its open postion. I am at a point where I want to find the motor for the rear shade and either test it, and / or replace it. The dealer told me that there are seperate motors, one for each roller shade.
Then I would consult with a independent MB shop, and get there take on it. Anyway, having them do it, is definitely cheaper than the dealership.
Most likely your headliner will need to come down, so they can access the motor and replace it. I would say that it should cost +/- $400, but I could be wrong.
What did the stealership quote you on the price?
Then I would consult with a independent MB shop, and get there take on it. Anyway, having them do it, is definitely cheaper than the dealership.
Most likely your headliner will need to come down, so they can access the motor and replace it. I would say that it should cost +/- $400, but I could be wrong.
What did the stealership quote you on the price?
Thanks... The dealership didn’t give me a quote. I usually fix things myself, I have a long history of repairing things on my cars, which saves the most money. I hope someone here knows what I need and perhaps has done this before.
subscribing...my rear roller shade slams open (very loud) when I only have the front open. Whatever is holding the rear closed is deteriorating perhaps.
subscribing...my rear roller shade slams open (very loud) when I only have the front open. Whatever is holding the rear closed is deteriorating perhaps.
Not really sure what you mean, but my rear shade is stuck in the “Open” position, not closed.
So I have determined that the motor for the rear shade on my pano roof is working. On the very rear right at the back of the track for the rear shade there is a broken plastic piece as you can see in the picture that I’m sure is supposed to be connected to the actual shade. When I run the motor and the front shade is in the closed position, I can feel that plastics piece tug a little bit towards the closed position if the rear shade would be connected to it. I did try and put forward pressure on the broken piece while opening the front shade, but it won’t budge. Also, the track on the front shade appears to have some sort of what looks like either a screw drive gear or spring in the front track, but the rear track doesn’t seem to have anything in it? If anyone has experience repairing these and now with this new information can add some insight, I would appreciate it.
thanks..
Okay, so after a bit more exploring I now know the total extent of the problem. On the surface very simple, but the fix may not be so simple. This is the other end of the broken piece that I was able to extract from the actual roller shade. The only thing wrong is that the track needs to be lubricated and this piece either glued or replaced. If the part is easily removed and replaced on the track, I would want to replace it, but it I need to remove the headliner or the surgery is extensive I want to try and glue it. Mechanicaly everything is working, it’s just that this piece is broken, but know how glueing parts back together can be difficult to do correctly. The piece that is still in the track closes with the motor, but since the roller shade isn’t connected anymore, the spring in the actual shade doesn’t pull it back to the open position. The default position for these shades is open and the motor pulls them closed and holds them closed under pressure from the springs in the shade if that makes sense.
I am still looking for advice, although it appears that I am figuring things out and will probably be the one helping others with similar problems... thoughts? Ideas? Anyone know what sort of glue method or product might actually hold when completed??
Last edited by lawman31; Mar 10, 2019 at 04:25 PM.
So after screwing with things more, come to find out that the guide just snaps into the track, mine poped out quite accidentaly and I then had both pieces in my hand to glue together... however, after a little research online, I found a kit with all 4 as seen in the picture on Amazon for get this.... $7.88 including shipping for the 4 piece kit...WHAT? Once the new parts arrive, I will grease the tracks, snap in the new guides and should be a 5 minute fix. I hope it all goes as planned.
I'm starting to see that when I open the sunshade, sometimes the rear shade sticks. Then you hear a bang, when it finally releases. And it shocks you, because you thought that it was fully open, when it wasn't.
I'm going to buy some white lithium grease today, and apply it. I think that the rails aren't properly lubricated.
I'm starting to see that when I open the sunshade, sometimes the rear shade sticks. Then you hear a bang, when it finally releases. And it shocks you, because you thought that it was fully open, when it wasn't.
Originally Posted by Yuille36
I'm going to buy some white lithium grease today, and apply it. I think that the rails aren't properly lubricated.
Is this lubricant for the roof only? Or can it also be used for the rear sunshade? My local dealer can only sell me the whole tub for $200 Luckily ECS Tuning sells it in half ounce portions for anyone wanting to DIY: https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/0019894651/
There are instructions on WIS on which points to lubricate too
So I was able to get the new guides in the track and greased everything up all nice, but it just isn’t working. The drive side (passenger) side goes, but the following side (drivers) side now just hangs up. This is very frustrating because it’s so simple by design and the front works fine, but the rear is a hot mess. I had to give up for the night, I just can’t make it work.
Last edited by lawman31; Mar 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM.
Okay, another shot at it today. The new track guides, even though I was able to wedge them into the tracks by removing the small hex bolts and it would move with the motor, evedntly you must keep the threaded metal hex bolt in the guide to keep it tight within the track. Unfortunately you can not get the new guides into the tracks without removing the headliner, and who knows what else. Bottom line, I now have new track guides, but can’t complete the installation. I have the ability to actually remove the headliner myself, I just don’t want to go through all that work just for the rear shade. I guess the rear shade will just remain open at all times. If anyone knows how to get the new guides into the tracks without 10 hours of work, I am all ears. Some things just aren’t worth it I guess.
At the very front edge of the rear passenger track, there is a small rubber stopper and a plastic cap. I was able to remove on T20 hex nut and pry up on this piece, which looked to provide access to the front edge of the track where you could, thoeroetically slide the new guide in, but there just isn’t enough room to get the guide to slide in from the front. Looks like the rear edge of the track is curved preventing the giude to slip off the back side, so no way to get the guide in the track from the rear either.
What a pain in the arsss... If you could just get the guide into the track, the rest of the repair would take less than a minute. So frustrating. After spending about an hour again today, I give up, and I typically never give up on anything.
Anyone here with knowledge, please add your input.
Thx.
Last edited by lawman31; Mar 18, 2019 at 05:31 PM.
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