Renntech Tuned E63 vs Stock SLS *Video*
12-15-2015, 01:39 PM
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Renntech Tuned E63 vs Stock SLS *Video*
Both vehicles are mine, was a bit surprised by the result thought the E63 would pull quite easily on the SLS.
2014 4matic E63 has Renntech stage II tune and Decat down pipes with one passenger, 2011 SLS stock.
2014 4matic E63 has Renntech stage II tune and Decat down pipes with one passenger, 2011 SLS stock.
12-15-2015, 03:47 PM
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2016 AMG S65, AMG GL63, 2012 AMG E63 With AMS Alpha 9 Package, Renntech 200 Catted Downpipes.
Throw an Turbo upgrade and you will have no doubts.
15mm spacers will have a aggressive and flush look if you plan on keeping the OEM 19".
15mm spacers will have a aggressive and flush look if you plan on keeping the OEM 19".
12-15-2015, 04:25 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
That's interesting thanks for posting
Rwd rules on the highway runs
Isn't that sls significantly lighter?
From a stop I imagine the e63s to about 130mph would have a car length on the sls
Have you raced them from a stop?
Rwd rules on the highway runs
Isn't that sls significantly lighter?
From a stop I imagine the e63s to about 130mph would have a car length on the sls
Have you raced them from a stop?
12-15-2015, 05:28 PM
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100% from a dig E63 will win.
12-17-2015, 03:36 AM
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I have seen vids of rwd cls63 2012 (tune, maybe down pipes) walk an SLS with headers
Did you dyno your E?, should be in the 600whp + range no?
I find it hard for a 480/500 whp car to keep up with that, never mind pull you.
Heck I drove an an SL63 with performance package stock vs and SLS GT final edition both in an AMG event race tack, and felt the SL to be faster up top, granted rwd though.
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12-17-2015, 02:34 PM
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That does not look right
I have seen vids of rwd cls63 2012 (tune, maybe down pipes) walk an SLS with headers
Did you dyno your E?, should be in the 600whp + range no?
I find it hard for a 480/500 whp car to keep up with that, never mind pull you.
Heck I drove an an SL63 with performance package stock vs and SLS GT final edition both in an AMG event race tack, and felt the SL to be faster up top, granted rwd though.
I have seen vids of rwd cls63 2012 (tune, maybe down pipes) walk an SLS with headers
Did you dyno your E?, should be in the 600whp + range no?
I find it hard for a 480/500 whp car to keep up with that, never mind pull you.
Heck I drove an an SL63 with performance package stock vs and SLS GT final edition both in an AMG event race tack, and felt the SL to be faster up top, granted rwd though.
Maybe Renntech can chime in...
12-17-2015, 05:06 PM
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Maybe you need some new sparkplugs? These tuned cars seem to be sensitive to that
12-18-2015, 01:10 PM
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2016 AMG S65, AMG GL63, 2012 AMG E63 With AMS Alpha 9 Package, Renntech 200 Catted Downpipes.
With the price difference, one may able to balance it with an turbo upgrade and a TCU upgrade to level battle field. Just saying.
12-19-2015, 03:53 AM
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It's the awd holding back the e63... The rwd tuned e63 seems like a dead heat with the sls
12-19-2015, 10:24 AM
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Unless the SLS traps over 126mph in the quarter, there is something wrong with the E
12-19-2015, 12:12 PM
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
its not the AWD... 2014 e63 with tunes are trapping 126-129 mph, while SLS are trapping 121-126 mph.... E63 tuned AWD should of done better
something must be wrong with the e63 in the op vid.... get it on a dyno and see what its putting down and see if numbers look inline with expectations... vid car should be putting down about 600 -630 awhp for tune and DP's depending on the dyno and conditions
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If this is true what members are saying. Does that mean a "stock" preface W212 RWD with PP against a facelift AWD S will be of a equal race? Wondering because I don't recall in a race like this when I was stock.
From what I have read, in SoCal weather means RWD is better than AWD?
From what I have read, in SoCal weather means RWD is better than AWD?
12-19-2015, 12:23 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
In a roll race, all else being equal... The rwd will outrun the awd car
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its not the AWD... 2014 e63 with tunes are trapping 126-129 mph, while SLS are trapping 121-126 mph.... E63 tuned AWD should of done better
something must be wrong with the e63 in the op vid.... get it on a dyno and see what its putting down and see if numbers look inline with expectations... vid car should be putting down about 600 -630 awhp for tune and DP's depending on the dyno and conditions
something must be wrong with the e63 in the op vid.... get it on a dyno and see what its putting down and see if numbers look inline with expectations... vid car should be putting down about 600 -630 awhp for tune and DP's depending on the dyno and conditions
12-19-2015, 01:50 PM
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But against a stock SLS??? Different story.....
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
sls is going to suffer less from this over multiple runs due to not running boost, much less, increased boost from a tune like you which is going to cause your car to heat soak more quickly and your ecu to more timing more quickly the more and more WOT runs you do.... this is not going to happen to the n/a SLS nearly as quickly as your F/I engine..
if you are going to do multiple runs or track you car, first thing to do on boosted cars is to beef up your cooling system otherwise your ecu is just going to pull timing and dump boost
my old e55 s/c used to pull lots of power after only a few wot runs, as IAT's skyrocketed, until i upgraded my cooling system... same thing with my b5 s4 audi until i upgraged intercoolers and added meth injection.
fact of the matter is, fastest sls on dragtimes is 11.44 @ 125 and fastest tune AWD e63 is 10.85 @ 129.... so my guess would be your were severely heat soaked or the sls had nitrous
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do you datalog? what was your IAT when you ran the sls? chances are if you were do roll races all day (from the videos you posted in the other thread looks like you did at least 10+ runs) then your ecu was probably pulling lots of timing due to heat soak unless you were running some seriously upgraded cooling mods.
sls is going to suffer less from this over multiple runs due to not running boost, much less, increased boost from a tune like you which is going to cause your car to heat soak more quickly and your ecu to more timing more quickly the more and more WOT runs you do.... this is not going to happen to the n/a SLS nearly as quickly as your F/I engine
if you are going to do multiple runs or track you car, first thing to do on boosted cars is to beef up your cooling system otherwise your ecu is just going to pull timing and dump boost
my old e55 s/c used to pull power after only a few wot runs until i upgraded my cooling system...
sls is going to suffer less from this over multiple runs due to not running boost, much less, increased boost from a tune like you which is going to cause your car to heat soak more quickly and your ecu to more timing more quickly the more and more WOT runs you do.... this is not going to happen to the n/a SLS nearly as quickly as your F/I engine
if you are going to do multiple runs or track you car, first thing to do on boosted cars is to beef up your cooling system otherwise your ecu is just going to pull timing and dump boost
my old e55 s/c used to pull power after only a few wot runs until i upgraded my cooling system...
David - I would have rwd all day long if I lived where you do!! I need the awd... Rwd is just less mechanical drag on the engine compared to same car same specs in awd
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Originally Posted by gaspam
do you datalog? what was your IAT and AFR when you ran the sls? chances are if you were do roll races all day (from the videos you posted in the other thread looks like you did at least 10+ runs) then your ecu was probably pulling lots of timing/ boost and pulling fueling, due to heat soak unless you were running some seriously upgraded cooling mods.
sls is going to suffer less from this over multiple runs due to not running boost, much less, increased boost from a tune like you which is going to cause your car to heat soak more quickly and your ecu to more timing more quickly the more and more WOT runs you do.... this is not going to happen to the n/a SLS nearly as quickly as your F/I engine..
if you are going to do multiple runs or track you car, first thing to do on boosted cars is to beef up your cooling system otherwise your ecu is just going to pull timing and dump boost
my old e55 s/c used to pull lots of power after only a few wot runs, as IAT's skyrocketed, until i upgraded my cooling system... same thing with my b5 s4 audi until i upgraged intercoolers and added meth injection.
fact of the matter is, fastest sls on dragtimes is 11.44 @ 125 and fastest tune AWD e63 is 10.85 @ 129.... so my guess would be your were severely heat soaked or the sls had nitrous
sls is going to suffer less from this over multiple runs due to not running boost, much less, increased boost from a tune like you which is going to cause your car to heat soak more quickly and your ecu to more timing more quickly the more and more WOT runs you do.... this is not going to happen to the n/a SLS nearly as quickly as your F/I engine..
if you are going to do multiple runs or track you car, first thing to do on boosted cars is to beef up your cooling system otherwise your ecu is just going to pull timing and dump boost
my old e55 s/c used to pull lots of power after only a few wot runs, as IAT's skyrocketed, until i upgraded my cooling system... same thing with my b5 s4 audi until i upgraged intercoolers and added meth injection.
fact of the matter is, fastest sls on dragtimes is 11.44 @ 125 and fastest tune AWD e63 is 10.85 @ 129.... so my guess would be your were severely heat soaked or the sls had nitrous
