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Old 03-14-2016, 03:26 PM
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Old 03-14-2016, 04:22 PM
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Can you explain your dyno numbers a bit more? I see 3 pairs of numbers
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Here is my dyno chart on the flywheel (full GAD built 5.8 stroker kit):

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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
Here is my dyno chart on the flywheel (full GAD built 5.8 stroker kit):

has GAD made any progress on removing the torque limitations down low?

I know they are pushing the envelope on this platform and you have a good relationship with them so was curious as if you might have some insider info as to where they are at with the torque limitations
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You mean removing torque limitations on MCT gearbox from the acceleration on the start ?
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yes, how its seems to buffer torque until about 3000 rpms on most m157 dynos i have seen.... on a lot of renntech and weistec’s M157 dynos i see torque jump about 225 ft-lbs from 2500 to 3000.... for comparison on my e55 i saw only about 30 ft-lbs change in the same rpm range and for c63 weistec stage 2 s/c you see about 20 ft-lbs change in the same rpm range
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Originally Posted by gaspam
yes, how its seems to buffer torque until about 3000 rpms on most m157 dynos i have seen.... on a lot of renntech and weistec’s M157 dynos i see torque jump about 225 ft-lbs from 2500 to 3000.... for comparison on my e55 i saw only about 30 ft-lbs change in the same rpm range and for c63 weistec stage 2 s/c you see about 20 ft-lbs change in the same rpm range
Yes, they did. besides i have now Race start at 4.5k rpm (.5k higher). The car makes 0-60mph in 2.5 sec.
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Originally Posted by gaspam
yes, how its seems to buffer torque until about 3000 rpms on most m157 dynos i have seen.... on a lot of renntech and weistec’s M157 dynos i see torque jump about 225 ft-lbs from 2500 to 3000.... for comparison on my e55 i saw only about 30 ft-lbs change in the same rpm range and for c63 weistec stage 2 s/c you see about 20 ft-lbs change in the same rpm range
Have you spoken to weistec or gad? i am sure they can remove it.
My car will be ready on thursday and then i am going to think about gearbox as well. Will speak to kleemann first.
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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
Yes, they did. besides i have now Race start at 4.5k rpm (.5k higher). The car makes 0-60mph in 2.5 sec.
What mods are done to your transmission? I'm sure 4.5k launch is tough on the trans and clutches.
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Originally Posted by vkudenko444
Yes, they did. besides i have now Race start at 4.5k rpm (.5k higher). The car makes 0-60mph in 2.5 sec.
awesome! was it just change to software or trans as well?

get your car to a drag strip when winter ends over there as we all want to see your beast on a drag strip!
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Originally Posted by gaspam
awesome! was it just change to software or trans as well?

get your car to a drag strip when winter ends over there as we all want to see your beast on a drag strip!


I think this is the guy that ran the 10.2 that you posted in another thread.
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I think this is the guy that ran the 10.2 that you posted in another thread.
Nope that car was from pp performance in uae... Vasily is from Russia with GAD motors
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dyno sheet?
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dyno sheet?
I can't post my dyno sheet from my iPad for some reason, but here is my thread.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post6730951

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No dyno sheet to post yet, but this past Friday during TX2k16 the car did 471rwhp/517.8rwtq on a Mustang dyno at about 60°F. 2012 E63, UPD filters/spacers, & QTP cutouts. It was tuned this Monday, but haven't dyno'd since.
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Originally Posted by SSleeper
No dyno sheet to post yet, but this past Friday during TX2k16 the car did 471rwhp/517.8rwtq on a Mustang dyno at about 60°F. 2012 E63, UPD filters/spacers, & QTP cutouts. It was tuned this Monday, but haven't dyno'd since.
Who tuned it?
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UPD/Tony since he's in town for the week; didn't have to ship the ECU.

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Who tuned it?
Old 03-23-2016, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SSleeper
No dyno sheet to post yet, but this past Friday during TX2k16 the car did 471rwhp/517.8rwtq on a Mustang dyno at about 60°F. 2012 E63, UPD filters/spacers, & QTP cutouts. It was tuned this Monday, but haven't dyno'd since.
So those #s are PRE tune it appears from your time line.

I would love to hear the after numbers also!
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That's correct. The numbers I posted were before the tune.

Originally Posted by 2012 CCB E63
So those #s are PRE tune it appears from your time line.

I would love to hear the after numbers also!
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Here are mine and pulls were done on a hot humid Texas day.

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Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55
Here are mine and pulls were done on a hot humid Texas day.

Who tuned it?
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Put the car on the dyno a few times this week to see how the addition of catless downpipes and a retune would change the numbers...

Baseline - renntech tune, BMC filters, 93 octane, 90 degrees, Dynojet 424 LC2
best run (also first run):
- 586 awhp, no torque numbers...

After addition of catless DPs (not turboback), and software update, same dyno, probably a bit cooler (haven't seen temp numbers yet, but prob closer to 80 degrees)
- 620 awhp

I'll post graphs later and a sound clip. Also going to put it back on in the upcoming weeks to capture torque numbers.

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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
Put the car on the dyno a few times this week to see how the addition of catless downpipes and a retune would change the numbers...

Baseline - renntech tune, BMC filters, 93 octane, 90 degrees, Dynojet 424 LC2
best run (also first run):
- 586 awhp, no torque numbers...

After addition of catless DPs (not turboback), and software update, same dyno, probably a bit cooler (haven't seen temp numbers yet, but prob closer to 80 degrees)
- 620 awhp

I'll post graphs later and a sound clip. Also going to put it back on in the upcoming weeks to capture torque numbers.
how does it feel with the addition of catless downpipes ?
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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
Put the car on the dyno a few times this week to see how the addition of catless downpipes and a retune would change the numbers...

Baseline - renntech tune, BMC filters, 93 octane, 90 degrees, Dynojet 424 LC2
best run (also first run):
- 586 awhp, no torque numbers...

After addition of catless DPs (not turboback), and software update, same dyno, probably a bit cooler (haven't seen temp numbers yet, but prob closer to 80 degrees)
- 620 awhp

I'll post graphs later and a sound clip. Also going to put it back on in the upcoming weeks to capture torque numbers.
Did they just turn off the rear O2's on re-tune or did they make others changes?


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