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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Sorry, no holes in my logic... I can't say the same for yours since your arguments are based on an emotional defense to justify your purchase. If you want pure independent data from impartial parties, okay I will dig it up for you. Even though I know you will come up with some other outlandish reasons to dismiss it since it does not support your agenda (like how I show you dynos supporting my statements and then you dismiss them as being falsified).
There are tons of holes in your logic. There is no emotional defense, I just like to call BSer's on their BS.

You say I'm using an emotional defense to justify my purchase, I'm not the one who bought an F10 M5, sold it, then so emotionally misses his car that he actually lives in BMW F10 M5 Fantasyland about its performance, LOL You are such an easy target I find it laughable at best.

Those links to dyno sheets you posted are a joke. The fact that you think those support your argument clearly shows your inability to think critically.

K&N dynos an F10 M5 CP at about 508 to the wheels and then dynos the E63 S at 541 to the wheels. Then, I see another ridiculous post saying that the standard F10 M5 dynos in the 520s, higher than the competition package! Yeah right. The funny thing is that the E63 S dyno'd by AMS pretty much dynos the same as the K&N dyno at 540 WHP.

So how is it that the E63 S dyno pulls are consistent on the K&N dyno and AMS dyno, but now we have mysteriously gained almost 30 HP to the wheels from standard F10 M5s when the comp package only dynos at about 508 to the wheels?????

I'm sure you'll post something absurd to try and justify that discrepancy, LOL.

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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by proxygeek
There are tons of holes in your logic. There is no emotional defense, I just like call BSer's on their BS.

You say I'm using an emotional defense to justify my purchase, I'm not he one who bought an F10 M5, sold it, then so emotionally misses his car that he actually lives in BMW F10 M5 Fantasyland about its performance, LOL You are such an easy target I find it laughable at best.

Those links to dyno sheets you posted are a joke. The fact that you think those support your argument clearly shows your inability to think critically.

K&N dynos an F10 M5 CP at about 500 to the wheels and then dynos the E63 S at 541 to all wheels. Then, I see another ridiculous post saying that the standard F10 M5 dynos in the 520s, higher than the competition package! Yeah right. The funny thing is that the E63 S dyno'd by AMS pretty much dynos the same as the K&N dyno at 540 WHP.

So how is that the E63 S dyno pulls are consistent on the K&N dyno and AMS dyno, but now we have mysteriously gained almost 30 HP to the wheels from standard F10 M5s when the comp package only dynos at about 500ish to the wheels?????

I'm sure you'll post something absurd to try and justify that discrepancy, LOL.
I am done talking about the M5. Go do some real rolling races with actually M5s (not video game ones) and then post videos. Good luck!
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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have an Example:-

When MB release Ml63-tt, X5m/X6m fans escaping from the BIG screen, before that, they can talk to you though the roof,

their advertising & cacky clips flowing over the world everyday..!,

after MB unleash the Ml63 tt, X5m/X6m mama fans strangely disappeared..,

this is the Exactly happened, when MB Explode the cave, and show them a new Real muscle E63/E63s 4-matic, and let them know; any time we can play & KILL your shaky Toy..

BMW behind the door with black EYES, (their cocky habit)..!!

,,ZAYED,,
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
have an Example:-

When MB release Ml63-tt, X5m/X6m fans escaping from the BIG screen, before that, they can talk to you though the roof,

their advertising & cacky clips flowing over the world everyday..!,

after MB unleash the Ml63 tt, X5m/X6m mama fans strangely disappeared..,

this is the Exactly happened, when MB Explode the cave, and show them a new Real muscle E63/E63s 4-matic, and let them know; any time we can play & KILL your shaky Toy..

BMW behind the door with black EYES, (their cocky habit)..!!

,,ZAYED,,
Can you repeat what you just wrote....this time in English?
Almost looks like a speech to text post while driving
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kponti
Can you repeat what you just wrote....this time in English?
Almost looks like a speech to text post while driving
It was his 5,000th post. He had to make it memorable! lol
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kponti
Can you repeat what you just wrote....this time in English?
Almost looks like a speech to text post while driving
Actually seems like a random text generator. Kinda like when you hit the auto-suggest button on your phone 20 times:
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The fact I can see it as well be a great way for a few years back on my way
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Actually, I think the random words my phone strings together make more sense than that post!
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kponti
Can you repeat what you just wrote....this time in English?
Ahh sorry, don't have time to higher (--Translator--), to lighten up your mind..!!

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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kponti
Can you repeat what you just wrote....this time in English?
Almost looks like a speech to text post while driving
another subtle negative comment from Kponti

it was in english- i understood it... maybe you are not as smart as you think you are

english is obviously not his first language (he's from UAE), so how about not being so ethnocentric... I'm pretty sure his english is better than your arabic

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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Ahh sorry, don't have time to higher (--Translator--), to lighten up your mind..!!

,,ZAYED,,
I understood you just fine, always appreciate your comments zayed
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
another subtle negative comment from Kponti

it was in english- i understood it... maybe you are not as smart as you think you are

english is obviously not his first language (he's from UAE), so how about not being so ethnocentric... I'm pretty sure his english is better than your arabic
Didnt realize he is from the UAE (wasn't paying attention), my bad, carry on

BTW there wasn't anything subtle about my post, or maybe your reading comprehension is as vague as your thought processes

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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
another subtle negative comment from Kponti

it was in english- i understood it... maybe you are not as smart as you think you are

english is obviously not his first language (he's from UAE), so how about not being so ethnocentric... I'm pretty sure his english is better than your arabic

Thanks a lot Bro., Really Appreciated..

,,ZAYED,,
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kponti
Didnt realize he is from the UAE (wasn't paying attention), my bad, carry on

BTW there wasn't anything subtle about my post, or maybe your reading comprehension is as vague as your thought processes
oh yeah, me, the one that could easily figure out where he was from, has the comprehension problems

you, the one that overestimated your own pay into the millions of dollars, are the smart one.... ok, carry on
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I understood you just fine, always appreciate your comments zayed
Many many Thanks mate..,,

not that surprised from "Kponti", since only "3" years here..?!?!?!?

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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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Thanks a lot Bro., Really Appreciated..

,,ZAYED,,
you're welcome, As-salamu alaykum
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
oh yeah, me, the one that could easily figure out where he was from, has the comprehension problems

you, the one that overestimated your own pay into the millions of dollars, are the smart one.... ok, carry on
LMAO!!!
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Many many Thanks mate..,,

not that surprised from "Kponti", since only "3" years here..?!?!?!?

,,ZAYED,,
Hey my bad on that, I didn't pay attention to who and where you were from.
The post sounded like something my phone had done to me on many occasions when I was speech to texting (which i do often), was just playfully calling you out on it since its nothing new to me.
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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you're welcome, As-salamu alaykum
Alaikum Salaaaaam..

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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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I don't put as much stock in rolling races as from the line. TO ME it feels like easy mode, but its fun on the freeway.

I feel like the debate here is that at likely 120+, the M5 or an RWD E63 would be faster for well know reasons. I don't think that's very impressive as much as its interesting, just my two cents.

A lot of good info on the MCT and I appreciate those post


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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 11:18 PM
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My M6 was epic fast. Smoked my E63 when both were modded equally. I hated the fact that my E63 lost my M6 at a half mile event, so I sold the sheet box. (M6)

I did not like my M6. Could never fall in love with it, and found myself only driving it to hear BPM on that epic B&O system.... Will never own another BMW product again.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 01:19 PM
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I don't put as much stock in rolling races as from the line. TO ME it feels like easy mode, but its fun on the freeway.

I feel like the debate here is that at likely 120+, the M5 or an RWD E63 would be faster for well know reasons. I don't think that's very impressive as much as its interesting, just my two cents.

A lot of good info on the MCT and I appreciate those post


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If its a race from a roll than the m5 would be ahead way before 120mph. In fact it would be ahead as soons as both floor it
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It will be so great if anyone can higher the diff. gearing to (3.06 or 3.27), to compare the running with stock (2.65) diff.,

or even with "M5/M6" fans...!,


**ahhh BTW; i hope my English is good this time..?!?, pls. someone correct it if it bad this time..!!!!

[[--Except the English Master Teacher here--]]

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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
It will be so great if anyone can higher the diff. gearing to (3.06 or 3.27), to compare the running with stock (2.65) diff.,

or even with "M5/M6" fans...!,


**ahhh BTW; i hope my English is good this time..?!?, pls. someone correct it if it bad this time..!!!!

[[--Except the English Master Teacher here--]]

,,ZAYED,,
Really? We are still on that?
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 04:18 PM
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If its a race from a roll than the m5 would be ahead way before 120mph. In fact it would be ahead as soons as both floor it
None of the videos I just watched match that statement, M5 in everyone didn't look good until the were MOVING.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 10:56 PM
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Man you guys hen peck each other to death over here... Glad it's not just me.
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