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First read from Mercedes on the 2018 E63 AMG

Old Jan 2, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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First read from Mercedes on the 2018 E63 AMG

Looks to be coming out this summer and what really catches my attention is the 0 to 60 time of 3.3 Seconds~~~Plus the cylinder deactivation in conjunction with the 9 speed automatic could have this car getting over 25 mpg on the highway although epa numbers are not available as yet. https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/futur...ALLERY-ID|0|19
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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Power is impressive. I'm not a fan of the look though. It seems every new car from mercedes gets less aggressive looking
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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"AMG sport suspension based on AIR BODY CONTROL"

Does that mean they're going back to full Airmatic?
yes front and rear now both will have it
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Not a fan of cylinder deactivation....Honda had major issues with theirs a few years ago.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 08:38 AM
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Audi done it 3 years ago lol
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ldstang50
Power is impressive. I'm not a fan of the look though. It seems every new car from mercedes gets less aggressive looking
the interior looks like a cheap strip club...
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Not a fan of cylinder deactivation....Honda had major issues with theirs a few years ago.
the current amg slk55 has it with no problems ... this is on the na v8
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 02:55 PM
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I could see it complicating power delivery with the turbos. We'll see how it goes.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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the current amg slk55 has it with no problems ... this is on the na v8
Interesting....how long has that feature been in place?
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Interesting....how long has that feature been in place?
at least five years

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/21/m...for-slk55-amg/
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^^^Thanks for the great detail!
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^^^Thanks for the great detail!
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 07:20 PM
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yes front and rear now both will have it
Yup, double the headache is what I call it.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ldstang50
Power is impressive. I'm not a fan of the look though. It seems every new car from mercedes gets less aggressive looking
The power is really not that impressive. I doubt that it will dyno as high as the W212 E63 S which was quite under rated. However, I agree that MB has made a big mistake with the design. It is not nearly as muscular and aggressive looking as the W212 and looks far too similar to the current C class. Personally, I am elated that I purchased the last year of the W212. If I had to replace it with something similar, I'd be shopping at an Audi dealership.
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Originally Posted by BerndV
The power is really not that impressive. I doubt that it will dyno as high as the W212 E63 S which was quite under rated. However, I agree that MB has made a big mistake with the design. It is not nearly as muscular and aggressive looking as the W212 and looks far too similar to the current C class. Personally, I am elated that I purchased the last year of the W212. If I had to replace it with something similar, I'd be shopping at an Audi dealership.
and which Audi is a good replacement?

please don't say that ugly RS7.
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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The front end looks pretty angry, but the *** looks like the newer C-class (not a fan). The interior is interesting. Not exactly luxury looking, but maybe that was their point? I dunno. I'll never be able to afford one so it doesn't matter to me. lol :-)
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
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I'll never be able to afford one so it doesn't matter to me. lol :-)
You will be able to, due to the natural depreciation curve of cars like this.
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 07:23 PM
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You will be able to, due to the natural depreciation curve of cars like this.
well, question is will he want the car by the time he is able to afford it with all of the inherent AMG used car problems
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You'll just have to get the wagon which doesn't have the same "melty rear end" issues that the sedans do.
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 02:38 AM
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You'll just have to get the wagon which doesn't have the same "melty rear end" issues that the sedans do.
*** yeah... and drive it like you stole it... I keep "babying" my cars and come to realize I miss out on the very reason I bought the fuggers... like buying a great wine only to hold it for later sale (which I also have done).

As far as cylinder deactivation: I'm guessing it doesn't happen if you drive in S+... like the current auto shut-off. Before I even put on my seat belt, I twist the dial to S+. So a bit of a non-issue.

Looking forward to W213 wagon.
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Originally Posted by BerndV
The power is really not that impressive. I doubt that it will dyno as high as the W212 E63 S which was quite under rated. However, I agree that MB has made a big mistake with the design. It is not nearly as muscular and aggressive looking as the W212 and looks far too similar to the current C class. Personally, I am elated that I purchased the last year of the W212. If I had to replace it with something similar, I'd be shopping at an Audi dealership.
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