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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 12:08 PM
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Here is is the combo I have chosen.Mandrus Arrow and Nokia’s Hakkepelita



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Which size Mandrus wheels did you get? I went to their website and saw 19 x 9.5 that seems would fit front and back. I would want to run the smaller size in winter just to get into cheaper tires, in fact I can't find any performance 20" tires around that would fit anyway.

Also the Mandrus website sucks, no way to contact them via the website to confirm size. Can you put a 45mm ET on the rear when OEM is 55mm? Is 10mm that big of a deal?
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Go to willtheyfit.com it will show you the difference. Good tool.
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bibenstein
Which size Mandrus wheels did you get? I went to their website and saw 19 x 9.5 that seems would fit front and back. I would want to run the smaller size in winter just to get into cheaper tires, in fact I can't find any performance 20" tires around that would fit anyway.

Also the Mandrus website sucks, no way to contact them via the website to confirm size. Can you put a 45mm ET on the rear when OEM is 55mm? Is 10mm that big of a deal?

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Front: 19 x 9.5 et 25 product code: 1995MAA255112M66
Rear: 19 x 9.5 et 52 product code: 1995MAA525112M66

$292 US per wheel is what I found online ... https://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...oppingCart.cfm

I guess it could be cheaper if you do a bit more digging online or your local wheel shops

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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bibenstein
Which size Mandrus wheels did you get? I went to their website and saw 19 x 9.5 that seems would fit front and back. I would want to run the smaller size in winter just to get into cheaper tires, in fact I can't find any performance 20" tires around that would fit anyway.

Also the Mandrus website sucks, no way to contact them via the website to confirm size. Can you put a 45mm ET on the rear when OEM is 55mm? Is 10mm that big of a deal?
My intention was to go with 19” for winter but appears I wasn’t paying attention and agreed to order 20x8.5 all 4 corners. My installer says the offset is similiar but they would fine tune the offset to make sure it fits a bit better than OEM. As for tires, we went with a set of Nokian Hakkapellita 255/35R20 on all 4 corners as well. The rims and tires are waiting for my car to arrive at the end of the month. I hope there are no delays on my car. I will ask what the offsets are for the rims and report back.




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Old Jan 27, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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Before: Stock wheels on summers


After: Axis One wheels- 20x9.5 on 275/35/20 Sottozero Performance Winters, squared. Wheel offsets are 30 front and 50 rear from Tire Rack on close out for 150 each. Still currently available but limited quantities. Low pressure cast wheels but fine for winter beating at that price. Wheels weigh 26-27 lbs, slightly less than OEM. Just an option.
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Old Jan 28, 2018 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by orenlasko
275/35/20 102v Pirelli winter SottoZero II which should work just fine at all four corners. I was thinking about the 255’s but thought they would be a bit of a stretch on the 10” wide rears... I got a deal on them I couldn’t pass up...
This is what my dealer recommended as well.
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 04:42 AM
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Any more wheel options this year?
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Any possibility for using the 19" GT 4 door sedan wheels?

Originally Posted by V70cat
Any more wheel options this year?
Hello,
I have an E63 laying in wait at the Baltimore VPC since July, and will also hopefully be united with the ride when released sometime "this year." Being in NJ, I will need a winter setup also. I looked at the DOG for the new GT 4 door sedan, and there appears to be 19" x 10 and 19" x 11 wheels available for that model. Does anyone have part numbers and or info like offsets? That would be great for winter or all season.
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Old Sep 29, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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As noted many times, do a square set up. don't waste your money with staggered. remember you want narrow for snow. you don't need to spend the money on wide. Tire Rack is awesome and very price competitive.
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Old Sep 30, 2018 | 09:31 PM
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This seems like a good tire - Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS Ultra High-Performance All-Seaon. They come in the OEM 265/295 diameters and widths.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...otenza+RE980AS
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 01:03 AM
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For winter? No, just no. All season tires are terrible in real winter conditions. If you are going to be in real winter conditions, buy a tire designed for it.

I’m going with a square set up of Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 265/40-19 102v....assuming I can source the tire. It’s listed on Michelin’s site, so I’m hoping it is actually available.

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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 08:05 AM
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there is a newer directional Michelin PA5 265/40/19 xl 102v available now. Newer compound and design. Part #16405
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pb12
For winter? No, just no. All season tires are terrible in real winter conditions. If you are going to be in real winter conditions, buy a tire designed for it.

I’m going with a square set up of Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 265/40-19 102v....assuming I can source the tire. It’s listed on Michelin’s site, so I’m hoping it is actually available.

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I do agree that winter tires will always be the best in "real" winter conditions. I am also getting winters put on, my choice is the Pirelli Sottozero Serie II (W240) 265/295R20. But this is because I live outside the greater Toronto area, where there are single lanes and infrequent snowplow services.

My point is not everyone lives in and/or drives in real winter conditions, but they drive in cold weather, where true winter conditions do not exist everywhere, all the time. Therefore, an all-season is not a bad choice for a AWD car. There are some dealer reps on this forum that have installed all-seasons - namely the Conti Extreme DWS-06 - on customer cars before delivery during winter. Also, the bonus with the Bridgstone is it comes in OEM size. It will be interesting to note how the Bridgestones will preform in this category of tire for its specific customer base.
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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there is a newer directional Michelin PA5 265/40/19 xl 102v available now. Newer compound and design. Part #16405
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Yes, Ive seen that as well. I don't like the look of it. The voids in the tread are rather small/narrow. Id rather have the more aggressive pattern from the PA4. I suspect the PA5 may perform better on ice, but the PA4 better in clearing snow, which is a bigger concern for me.

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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by s26singh
I do agree that winter tires will always be the best in "real" winter conditions. I am also getting winters put on, my choice is the Pirelli Sottozero Serie II (W240) 265/295R20. But this is because I live outside the greater Toronto area, where there are single lanes and infrequent snowplow services.

My point is not everyone lives in and/or drives in real winter conditions, but they drive in cold weather, where true winter conditions do not exist everywhere, all the time. Therefore, an all-season is not a bad choice for a AWD car. There are some dealer reps on this forum that have installed all-seasons - namely the Conti Extreme DWS-06 - on customer cars before delivery during winter. Also, the bonus with the Bridgstone is it comes in OEM size. It will be interesting to note how the Bridgestones will preform in this category of tire for its specific customer base.
I've ordered the Bridgstones from tirerack. The great thing about the all season tires is that I don't have to worry about my shoes disintegrating when the temp gets below 40 here in NC. More of ice events here and not too much snow. 4-wheel drive is more than adequate here for expected conditions.
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pb12
For winter? No, just no. All season tires are terrible in real winter conditions. If you are going to be in real winter conditions, buy a tire designed for it.

I’m going with a square set up of Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 265/40-19 102v....assuming I can source the tire. It’s listed on Michelin’s site, so I’m hoping it is actually available.

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The ground clearance is so limited that the car can't really go in deep snow anyway.
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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The ground clearance is so limited that the car can't really go in deep snow anyway.
Its not really about ground clearance for this application, just the tires ability to clear its tread efficiently, allowing better contact with the ground cover. Having said that, I have no doubt the PA5 is an awesome tire, my personal preference for the PA4 is just that, personal preference. I can't show any actual data showing one tire is better than the other. I suspect both are excellent.

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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 08:42 AM
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My dealer ordered a set of 5 x 255/35R20 (1 spare for a now disp.) square Hakka 9 for all his E63 S. I will go for that on the OEM wheels for winter and put the PS4 on a nice set of summer wheels next spring.
Sorry to comment on an old post, but just a question. did you put those Hakka 9 on the original 20 inch rims ? my dealer in montreal said i couldnt do it
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Old Nov 3, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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Winter set put on last night.

omg ! With the 19” (40 series) setup, the ride is so soft . Night and day difference over the the 20” summer 😁
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 10:23 AM
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Im going with these 19" wheels for winter on my Matte Selenite gray 2018 E63s: http://stancewheels.com/sf03/ . I am also going with All season tires, since NYC roads don't get too bad.

Wheels:
What do you guys think about the setup and offsets I was offered?
Front 19" 9.5j ET25
Rear 19" 9.5j ET40
Gloss black (My car is matte but all moldings are wrapped gloss)

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Debating between (Help me choose) (Bridgestone has better snow performance as per tire rack)
BRIDGESTONE
POTENZA RE980AS

Ultra High Performance All-Season
  • Size: 265/40R19 102W XL
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PILOT SPORT A/S 3+ (W- OR Y-SPEED RATED)

Ultra High Performance All-Season
  • Size: 265/40ZR19 98W

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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 10:35 AM
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I am also in NYC , might be interested in a group purchase?

Where do you plan to get the rims?
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 10:58 AM
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I am also in NYC , might be interested in a group purchase?

Where do you plan to get the rims?
I made a wholesale account with them directly since Im a New car broker (I own VIPLEASE.com). I am waiting to get costs
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Old Nov 12, 2018 | 02:24 PM
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I made a wholesale account with them directly since Im a New car broker (I own VIPLEASE.com). I am waiting to get costs
Very nice. Love those Stance wheels you selected.
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Old Nov 17, 2018 | 05:50 PM
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I've ordered the Bridgstones from tirerack. The great thing about the all season tires is that I don't have to worry about my shoes disintegrating when the temp gets below 40 here in NC. More of ice events here and not too much snow. 4-wheel drive is more than adequate here for expected conditions.
I've had these on the car for about a week now. Tires are a bit quieter than my PS4s, handling feels secure and solid. If nothing else comes up, I'm going to leave these on the car year round. In that case, I will have a set of cross--forged OEM wheels to place on the marketplace for sale along with the mounted PS4 tires.😀😀

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Planning on let it rest for winter and driving my BMW wagon. The salt and related is no good for any new car.
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