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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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Why does the blue reflect so much on the little bulbs when the lights are off? My car does that, only on the city lights though. All the other bulbs have blue filters on them too, but they don't show as much. My guess is how close the little one is to the reflector because it is such a small bulb.
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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Drew....so u dont get a light-bulb out error w/o load equalizer?
drew, are you saying that you basically left the w5w bulb connected and just added the led bulb to the same circuit?

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btw, those led bulbs at $11 each seems very fair. i got the polargs and paid $20 for a pair. i don't know what i did w/ them...

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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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Actually no, not a load equaliser per se as there isn't one that is available to simulate the current draw of a 5 watt W5W incandescent bulb. So, I simply used the bulb itself :p
To simulate a 5W 12V bulb, you can use a 10W 30 Ohm resistor.

http://www.newtekelectronics.com/bsm.htm

http://www.liean-gimn.com/products/l/11.htm
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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My next task is to get rid of that ugly amber bulb in the Bi-Xenons (it's thowing the orange reflection everywhere) and exchange it for an LED bulb. I played around with it for an hour before giving up for now.
Try Philips SilverVision. They are amber bulbs coated with silver paint so when it's not lit, it is silver on the outside. Can be ordered from www.autolamps-online.com

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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by vadim
Try Philips SilverVision. They are amber bulbs coated with silver paint so when it's not lit, it is silver on the otuside. Can be ordered from www.autolamps-online.com
Thanks, yeah I know about them. However I want the LED signals for the crisper and more intense flashing
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Matt230K
Why does the blue reflect so much on the little bulbs when the lights are off? My car does that, only on the city lights though. All the other bulbs have blue filters on them too, but they don't show as much. My guess is how close the little one is to the reflector because it is such a small bulb.
I think that you'll find this is true of the high beam or low beam bulbs as well. It is probably the orientation of the bulb in addition to the complex reflector surface, whose effect is exacerbated if you have a clear lens headlamp design :p
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Drew_ML
I think that you'll find this is true of the high beam or low beam bulbs as well. It is probably the orientation of the bulb in addition to the complex reflector surface, whose effect is exacerbated if you have a clear lens headlamp design :p
DREW you still havent answered. w/o a load equalizer (and Vadim's suggestion) does your LED blubs shows a bulb-out error in the computer or not?
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by tberry
DREW you still havent answered. w/o a load equalizer (and Vadim's suggestion) does your LED blubs shows a bulb-out error in the computer or not?
Oops, I missed that. The answer is no, there is no warning message. If a warning message illuminates, the bulb will remain unlit, BTW. It will flash intermittently as the self-test, but won't lit steadily.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by young
drew, are you saying that you basically left the w5w bulb connected and just added the led bulb to the same circuit?

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btw, those led bulbs at $11 each seems very fair. i got the polargs and paid $20 for a pair. i don't know what i did w/ them...
Yes, that's correct! That way I wouldn't have to look for resistors, etc. I simply used the bulb itself.

Yes, the pricing is reasonable for what you get. I like the results so much, BTW, that I ordered another pair for my clear corner side markers. From what I understand, these mini-wedge LEDs are available in other colours as well, such as amber, etc. So in effect, you can have a bulb which is clear when off behind the clear corner, but amber when on. This is similar to the amber LED signal bulbs that I have on my ML. In fact, I did something similar to my ML, but with two white LED snakes per lamp also from formymercedes.com





With turn signals flashing:

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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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My bad, both the LED snakes and mini-wedge bulbs are on the site. I just didn't scroll down far enough!

http://www.myroadster.net/led.asp
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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White LED city lamp ??

Hi,

While I'm waiting my bi-xenon to get here I'm now looking for White LED city lamp so that it can match with the bi-xenon...

Does any1 know what's the best White LED bulbs city lamp that almost have very similar colour temperature ?

please help me find these bulbs

thanks

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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...&highlight=led

Please use the search feature to find what you are looking for. It is very useful.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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Oooppss...

Sorry.. I reallly dunno why I didn't think of using the search feature.... but thanks...

But I do have one more quesiton and I did search 1st but I don't think somebody have talked about this before... How to change a city lights ? do I have to pull out all the housing ? and How to change the bumper lense too ? I need to change my OEM bumper lense(orange one) with a clear bumper lense...

thanks alot...
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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I know somewhere in this forum there is at least one thread that tells how to remove the city light bulbs. I don't remember how it was done, since I haven't needed or wanted to do so.

As for your other question a search for "clear side markers" should give you many threads about that subject.

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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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I don't know how to change a city light, but I can give you instructions for a changing a parking light if you ever need them
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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The city lights just pull right out. This is very easy to do on a coupe, but harder on a sedan. It's hard to get a good hold on them on the sedan. The high beam gets in the way.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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It's alot easier to pull out if you have the Bi-xenons headlamps.
I'm using the Razo 5w city lights bulbs, they are a bit to blue.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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Doesn't matter much because the LED throws an error to the display and won't light. Tried it - no go. Anyone figure this out? Is there a bulb with a built in resistor - I hate those 'load equalizers' that others have discussed.

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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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It's alot easier to pull out if you have the Bi-xenons headlamps.
I'm using the Razo 5w city lights bulbs, they are a bit to blue.
Got picks of the color? I'm thinking of just changing my city lights, I find that at the times I'm on the road most, I'm mainly got them onuse them a lot, but the amber color kinda bugs me. I'd like to get a Bi-Xenon kit, but I'll wait till I can get the clear lens OEM's
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Thanks alot for the response guys... really appreciated.... but I still dunno what brand of city light and fog lights have almost the same color match to bi-xenon..


but Thanks anyway
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:37 PM
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Doesn't matter much because the LED throws an error to the display and won't light. Tried it - no go. Anyone figure this out? Is there a bulb with a built in resistor - I hate those 'load equalizers' that others have discussed.

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It does work, you just need to trick the computer. See the link to the thread that Lynn reposted above for more info (thanks Lynn ). I would not use anything less than the 4 LED mini-wedge bulbs that I have. Those el-cheapo one LED APC bulbs as well, crap.

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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How did u get them to work properly

I installed mine and all they did was blink acouple of times but they wont stay on. I'm trying to install on a 2001 c320. thanks
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I installed mine and all they did was blink acouple of times but they wont stay on. I'm trying to install on a 2001 c320. thanks
You need to get a couple of generic 194 bulb sockets and install the original incandescent bulbs in those. You then tap off of the wiring of the factory city lamps using quick connectors. The problem is that without doing this, the LED bulbs draw barely any current and the bulb-out system thinks that the bulb is blown. Therefore it will not allow the LEDs to be continously lit as it goes into a self-test mode.
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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what about the six ohm load resistors they sell on the formymercedes site
do they work as well?

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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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what about the six ohm load resistors they sell on the formymercedes site
do they work as well?

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Unfortunately no, they won't. Those are intended to be for the normal 15-20 watt bulbs only whereas the city lamp bulb is only 5 watts.
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