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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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Engine light, Oil contamination ?

so my engine light came on, on my 2002 c230 coupe. i took it to my mb dealer to get it checked and apparently, there's oil contamination in the sensor? i have never done anything to my car under the hood other then install my HID's no where near the sensor. is it possible for the senor contamination to be from the dealer when they changed my oil? which they did only 2 weeks ago? or is this a common thing for the coupe? i coudlnt find another thread on this topic if it is. if so is there a cheaper solution? or is this gonna rape my wallet either way? the 2nd problem is that im due for my B service and if i get it done in edmonton where im currently staying itll be 800 if i take it back to saskatoon my home town, itll be only 400, so of course i want to do it in saskatoon, but with that 400 km drive with this problem... is that possible even? advice anyone?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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That's probably the leaking cam sensor that leaked oil all inside the wiring harness.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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What are the codes that you are getting? I will assume that is something like P0130 or something like that, mine was the oil separator, not the leaking cam sensor. You could actually remove the air filter and check the previous posts on how to check if you cam sensors are leaking. At that point the oil starts traveling from the cam harness all the way to the MAF and the car starts feeling "funny". Remember, if you have oil in a sensor (any for that matter) will not ruin it completely, just clean it good and let it dry properly.

BTW, I doubt that an oil change could cause the problem. Unless they dipped the sensor in oil, which I doubt
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Old May 18, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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the car defiantly feels like its running rougher, and thats what the service guy said it would do. but im not sure what error it is, ill have to go back to mb on wedensday to get it checked, so from the sounds of it this is a common thing? and if it is just oil leakin into the cam sensor, a simple wipe down and some time to let it dry is all that needs to be done? not something that will rape my wallet?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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You need to replace both front cam sensors an remove & clean the engine harness & then fit the pigtales. Search. There is a huge amount written in this regard. I'll see if I can find the best thread for you.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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He has a 2002, M111. It only have 1 cam sensor yet worse problems cause the oil leaks into the ECU as well as O2 sensors.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Ok so I'm getting confused now. So this is a big problem? Or isn't it?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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it could be a huge problem, however is more problematic in the M271 engines. Cases has been reported for the M111 but I think affects more the M271 (i.e. coupes 2003+). There is a write-up on how to check/replace the cam sensors. If that is the case then it could be a +2k fix unless you have them "preventively" fixed.

By the way, here's the DIY.

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Old May 18, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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the diy doesn't look so bad but from what I'm getting is that's it's not expensive unless it's damaged the ecu and all the other things basicly if I leave it for to long?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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the diy doesn't look so bad but from what I'm getting is that's it's not expensive unless it's damaged the ecu and all the other things basicly if I leave it for to long?
Sorry - brain fade - I thought you had a 2003 - Yes you only have one sensor to replace & clean up the engine harness. Cheap to fix now - expensive mess if you leave it. There is a M111 procedure posted - let me see if I can find it.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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well the engine light lit up less then a week ago, and mbs gonna open it up for me, i guess ill ask them to clean up the harness if possible and then wait for the senor to come in.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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So it doesn't look like at all what we were discussing about. its super bad apparently from what im told by the mechanic. so it seems that that oil contamination go its way into the wire harness, caused by a leaking camhaft adjuster magnet so now the following has to be replaced. Coolant temp sensor, engine cable harness, air mass sensor, upstream 02 sensor, engine control unit, camshaft sensor, and finally the camshaft adjuster magnet. total of 5100 worth of repairs. i called my regular mechanic, and he thinks its all sounding a little excessive. either way screwed, i remember reading on the forums that oil doesn't damage the wiring, any ideas??
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....any ideas??
See posts #5 and #6
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Old May 21, 2009 | 04:06 AM
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So it doesn't look like at all what we were discussing about. its super bad apparently from what im told by the mechanic. so it seems that that oil contamination go its way into the wire harness, caused by a leaking camhaft adjuster magnet so now the following has to be replaced. Coolant temp sensor, engine cable harness, air mass sensor, upstream 02 sensor, engine control unit, camshaft sensor, and finally the camshaft adjuster magnet. total of 5100 worth of repairs. i called my regular mechanic, and he thinks its all sounding a little excessive. either way screwed, i remember reading on the forums that oil doesn't damage the wiring, any ideas??
See this thread by ichibans13.5

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-problems.html

He had a lot more wrong than you - where there is a will there is a way. Yes I know his was a M271 - see below for M111. Change the cam sensor & clean the harness - fit pigtale. Forget the nonsense list of things to replace. Most will respond to cleaning once you have done the basics

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...sor+repacement
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Old May 28, 2009 | 05:24 AM
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so i took my car back to saskatoon, the mechanic found nothing of the list from except for the 02 sensor, its alot to fix but hell of a lotless then the 5000 from before, so whats the deal? why would one mercedes say all these things need to get fixed, when the mine couldnt find anything but the o2 sensor wrong?
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Originally Posted by lionheart153
so i took my car back to saskatoon, the mechanic found nothing of the list from except for the 02 sensor, its alot to fix but hell of a lotless then the 5000 from before, so whats the deal? why would one mercedes say all these things need to get fixed, when the mine couldnt find anything but the o2 sensor wrong?
Disconnect the wiring from the cam sensor, and check to see if you have any oil at this connection. If yes, then this could explain the O2 sensor fault, as oil can travel down this cable and foul the connection at anything downstream in this harness (O2 sensor, ECU, etc).

If the connection at the cam sensor is dry, then it is most likely a problem isolated to the O2 sensor.

If the connection at the cam sensor is oil-fouled, then it's time to consider if you want to clean the harness D-I-Y (there's a thread here from someone who's done it before), or spend the $$$ at the stealer. Keep in mind that the dealer wants to replace the ECU, O2 sensor, harness, and won't consider cleaning them - but most who have cleaned the connections report no further problems.

(Don't shortcut and clean only the oil at the connectors, because if you've got oil in the harness, it'll keep refouling things until you get it all out).
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...why would one mercedes say all these things need to get fixed, when the mine couldnt find anything but the o2 sensor wrong?
Money. They are paid according to how much they bill, not how happy the customer is. That's why they are often referred to as "stealers".
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