i love to drive in the rain

 

The Continentals on the car are ECCOPLUS. M & S rated. I presume they are H rated, but it isn't clear from the markings.

 

I do love my automatic wiper blades but I found that my car, even with the orignal stock tires, isn't safe, in the rain. Manual transmission and rear wheel drive combined with rain on my 240, isn't fun driving.

 

So what is the deal with MICHELIN Pilot Sport A/S tires ?

are they good or not ?
handling ?

MB approved ?

I want to get some new MICHELINs on my new 17" AMG wheels,
but not sure if to get the A/S or the regular PILOT series....

someone please educate me !!!


Carlos
Saprissa@aol.com

C320 Coupe w/ AMG upgrades:

AMG Rear Spoiler, AMG 17" Style IV Chrome Wheels, AMG 4-piston brake system, AMG Exhaust, AMG Suspension, LORINSER Roof Wing, and that cheap AMG plastic badge that goes on the back.

 

Pilotsport A/S = all season tires. it provides the good performance in dry while having good performance in wet as well. it's more expensive than the pilotsport and has longer tread life i believe.

if you are in an area where it's sunny most of the year and doesn't get snow and stuff, PilotSport would be a better choice because it's cheaper compare to the PS A/S. In dry, I believe the regular PS have better performance.

 

I have pilot sports on my car. The handling Is GREAT, but the ride can be better. I will get pilot A/S next time around.

 

"Regular" Pilot Sport is an ultra high performance tire. It is worthless in the snow, otherwise a great tire.

Pilot Sport A/S is an all-season tire. This means that it is inferior to high-performance summer tires in summer, and to winter tires in winter (snow + low temperatures). Very much a budget solution. If budget is your main consideration, get a set of 16" wheels with all-season tires, and you will be happy using them all year-round. For anything else you should prepare to pay quite a bit more.

As for Michelin Pilot Sport A/S not being a MB-approved tire, follow this link:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=63074

 

I guess the brand return to the dealer.. because our MB dealer in UAE is supllying Mechlin and Dunlop only for the cars ...

Since 2001 the spear tire still stored in the trunk lol.. but last time i saw the size are the same of the 4 tires but the rim is diffrent looks like hondas rims lol

 

I guess I will go with the regular MICHELIN Pilot Sport series tires on my 17" rims.
I live in Sunny Southern California so those should work just fine.
Problem is everyone I've checked with in SoCal has these on back-order.... TIRE RACK where are you ?

Thanks to all for the info on the difference between A/S and regular Pilots.

If the All-Season (A/S) Pilots are not covered by MB warranty,
and they seem to be pulling Benzos to the right, but not other cars, then wouldn't it be the car's fault not the tire ?

I guess my next question would be what is the advantages/disadvantages of Pilot Sport and Pilot Sport 2 tires?

Which is recommended for Southern California (mostly dry) driving?




Originally posted by Luke@tirerack
YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!

On January 16, 2004 Mercedes Benz issues a Star Bulletin to all their dealers as follows:
________________________________________
SUBJECT: All Passenger Models
Michelin Pilot Sports A/S Tires

Please be advised that the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S (all season) is not an approved (nor certified) Mercedes-Benz tire for any Mercedes-Benz passenger vehicle. Use of the above mentioned tire can cause vehicle tracking issues which MBUSA will not attempt to correct. MBUSA will not perform warranty wheel alignments on any subject vehicle which has any non-approved wheel/tire packages installed. For any questions as to approved wheel/tire packages please refer to WIS and EPC.

 

PIRELLI Pzero asymetrico

Yes that's the tyres, i'm talking 19 inch size, are they any good?? Your opinion is greatly appreciated and needed

 

Low thread wear.

 

Can I replace the 245/40-17 tires with 235/45-17 tires on the 2005 C230k, and will I still be ok with leaving the fronts at 225/45-17?

I have just found the 245/40-17 to be rather limited in tire options, but the 235's seem to have a lot more choices.

 

My lease is up in a few months, but I need new tires. What's a good value all weather tire that will be ok to drive for a few months, then give back to the dealer?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-Daws

 

Is this before any threat of winter there? If so, get the cheapest, biggest POS tires that you can at your local tire place, and deal with them until you turn your car in. No need to give the dealer any more money than the minimum.

 

Yep get the cheapest tire you can find!

 

Lease isn't up until Feb. So I do have to do winter driving.

I also don't want to buy a POS tier that will wear out in 7 months.

Thanks again,
Daws

 

I stuck all of that stock stuff in storage....the week before turning the thing in is going to be a big re-construction party

 

Well, that's a helpful post! :p

Any POS tire will last 7 months. It's hard to give any recommendations, since you're still not giving the full story.

What I would do: run your current tires to the wearbars, or the first threat of snow. Replace with cheapest all seasons. Don't drive like an idiot the rest of the lease. Turn in car. Thank myself for not wasting any money. Buy next time so that I don't have to go through this again.

As far as which particular tire, tirerack has a very good ratings database to help you decide, if you want any criteria other than price.

 

Buy cheapo tires...what size tire do you need?

 

Thanks, I checked out tirerack and it has all the info I need.

-Daws

 

Call the dealer and get the lease turn-in checklist. You may put substandard tires that are not acceptable to the leasing company and you'll have to buy 4 new ones again. It's not your car, it belongs to the leasing company, if they say the car came with Michellin Pilot Sports, a $200 tire, and you put in a $50 tire you maybe liable for a set of new set. This is payback time for getting the lower monthly payment.... Of course if you lease a new car from them they will find a way to hide this in your new lease payment so you won't have to worry until that lease expires.

 

Beer, pizza, chalupas for Tommy, etc. What?

 

AMEN !!!!

 

Leasing companies don't care what kind of tire you use as long as it is the same size and speed rating that came on the car, and meets the minimum tread depth. Lease turn in's are taken directly to Auction.

Getting a check list up front is not a bad idea, so there are no other surprises, but your lease contract should spell out what is acceptable.

On the tires, go for a good balance of cost and function. You have to drive the car in the winter, and you have to be comfortable driving it.

 

cheapest you can get!