sure...not the absolute best quality as oem but still fine and works great, just ask any of the thousands that have added them!!!! oem are redic expensive and hard to come by in a used status so many go wtih the aftermarket option! i had to get my bi-xenon from 2 separate people a month apart just so i could get them?! sometimes tahts what it takes...gl

 

the depo ones are ok for the cost. If you don't want to do your own hid retrofit, i would suggest saving and get the oem bixenons, if you want something with good performance.

If you look on the depo thread...you can see output pics.

 

ya but honestly how bad are depot's really? i mean do they do the job well at all?

 

i wish there was someone who could post side-by-sides of depot vs oem...taht would help alot for those out there trying to decide to spend thousands or hundreds...

 

Well guys, there is good news and bad news... The good news is the headlights came in just fine, I went to the local benz dealer, they where very sceptical (they never did it before)...They end up working just fine (plug'n play job)....

Here is the bad news... I ordered clearly bi-xenon headlights... For some reason they are not... I contacted the seller and this is what he had to say:


" These headlamps are 100% original and real BI-Xenon !

Please ask your Mercedes-Benz shop in Madrid. The driving light is Xenon and when you switch to high beam, the Xenon light is reflected with a mirror inside to be used also for the high beam.

For low beam: Xenon
For high beam: also Xenon (from low beam) + H7 halogen bulb.

Please park infront of a glas window and switch to high beam. You will see that the Xenon is also used for the high beam.

1 Xenon bulb with 2 funktions = BI-Xenon.

You can also ask the people in every Mercedes-Benz chat room."

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The other bad news is that they told me they have to change the sensors, they say that the auto levelling sensors are different for the pre-facelift model than the actual face lift model... So all in all the installment and changing of both things costs me 500euros straight. (official benz deal price is guess). I mean f*ck it I was really desperate to have them fitted, however I'm just thinking is it b*llsh*t that they have to change the auto levelling sensors (I had my old once and they worked just fine) they say the old sensors and the new lights can't communicate between one and other... I'm a bit sceptical whether this is true or is it just because I'm a forigner not knowing their language?

Of course the thing that pretty much pisses me off is that it isn't bi-xenon... I mean bi-xenon means as far as I know that both bulbs are xenon and that there is no halogen at all right?

I mean could it be that they where stupid and did not know how to install it properly?

 

This whole issue is becoming confusing so let's get back to basics. Suggest you post a photo of your lights - Back of housing and front of lights. I don't know what they are talking about changing sensors ??? they either work or they don't & FrankW has done this conversion from Zenon to BiX so I do not know what they are talking about.

Let's sort out the term Bi Xenon in Mercedes Benz language = 2 X HID Zenon projectors and 2 X H7 Zenon bulbs = Bi Xenon. HID projectors are used for high & low beam (high beam with shutters up) & H7 Zenon lamps for high beam.

See the lamp compliment in genuine BiX headlights in the attached pdf's I've created from the internet.

 

my conclusion: they're stupid and you should read up on how Bi-xenon actually works.

I'll explain, but read up more if you want.

the Bi-xenon uses only 1 pair of Xenon bulbs. one on each side for low beam. when high beam is switched on the _/ _/ flaps that makes the cut-off line on the low beam will flip up and allows the projector to illuminate as "high" beam.

the halogen high beam is still used when the high beam is on and when you flash the high beam.

 

Thanks Frank - & the H7's are Xenon filled filament lamps to mimic the Xenon arc in colour which they don't. Dovla - please read my pdf's. I can post a whole paper on the subject if you wish.

 

Hi:
I am a newbie and have been reading all posts avidly.I feel happy to have run into this group as I have been wondering to get bixenons for my C320 2003 model.My dealer says that if I didnt have xenons as part of the factory model then it means that I cant get bixenons done on my car.I hope I have posted this in the right place as its my first..

 

1+ to frank.

Only difference between bixenon and single xenon is the little shield flips up and down.

The halogen high beam is usually considered a aux light..for example when you want to signal to someone. Because it not good for the shield seloniod for the shield to be flipping on and off continously like when you turning on and off a halogen bulb quickly.

example of how a bixenon projector works.

video of a e46 bixenon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxUWYKA3_Y

low beam then high beam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19C1u...eature=related

 

No the H7 high beam is a standard halogen bulb. As mentioned above, Bi-Xenon means that the shield on the low-beam projector moves to allow more light when the high beam is used. The H7 bulb and high beam operates along with this function.

 

Wecome to the forum

Please complete your profile where are you?

If you are in America you can get away with fitting BiX without auto levelling. In UK, Europe, South Africa, Australia etc. you will get into trouble. Not permitted by law.

So technically you can fit BiX without auto levelling. The cost of retrofit of auto levelling to your car is prohibitive.

If you fit BiX all you need to do after fitment is get a dealer to use his STAR DAS to switch on Zenon = present in the cars menu system. Search the forum. A huge amount has been written about the conversion - Good luck

 

Hi Mike - purely as a matter of discussion - not argument - because who really cares why they were called Bi Xenon. 1 x Xenon arc & 1 x Zenon filled H7 per side - or the dual use of the Xenon arc projectors.

When I re-read the Mercedes promo blurb they sent me when I was specing my car for order they are ambiguous on this point. They go into all sorts of claims like 400% brighter??? (clever wording). Talk about the Xenon projectors & carefully matched OE Xenon filled (one of the halogens) (H7) high beam lamps that "mimic the colour temperature" of the Xenon (arcs).

The way it is written suggests that 1 X Zenon projector & 1 X Zenon filled H7 = BiX

 

There probably getting the 400% better when comparing a car with regular halogens to there setup.

Average halogen produce around 700-1200 lumens of light. HIDS produce around average of 2800-3500 lumens.

The blue coated halogen bulbs can mimic the color but not the output.


The extra set of halogen might help with the high beam but you would probably barely notice them. Even with hid low beams on and halogen high beams on..i barely notice the halogens even though there aimed higher.

From the setup..it looks like raymondg describes the mercedes setup the best.


https://mbworld.org/forums/cls-coupe...-bi-xenon.html

 

Hey guys found this on eBay and figured if anyone was lookin for a set this one is really inexpensive compared to dealer prices...i bought my set separately and had a complete set within a matter of a month...bought one off a member and the other off eBay...so check it out if your interested...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts...3A1|240%3A1318

 

There was a nice one on there the other day for $250 from a wrecked car. I was sitting on it debating buying it. Now it's sold.

 

I have a set for sale if anyone is interested.

 

I'm interested.

 

lol you got another set for sale andy!!!

 

Yeah this is the set I was using. My lease is up in a couple months so I took them off.

 

PM sent.

 

well good luck man...mine is working great, put them in in december and put in some philips ultinon 600k in them both...looks great!

 

 

Thanks for the heads up! Imma keep an eye on this..

 

no prob