C450 AMG Sport discussion only.
03-23-2016, 12:44 PM
#3577
[Can fellow Canadians in this thread chime in on what percentage off MSRP you have been able to get on your cars. I live in the GTA and have been offered 3% off without any haggling. Wondering how much more wiggle room is left when I start pushing. Any recommended dealerships in GTA also?
Thanks!]
Maybe up to 5% off. Check with Tim at Markham MB where I got my C450[/QUOTE]
Thanks!]
Maybe up to 5% off. Check with Tim at Markham MB where I got my C450[/QUOTE]
03-23-2016, 04:11 PM
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2016 C450 AMG Sport
I am having steering issues with my C450 AMG sport. I can not seem to center the car when going down the interstate at higher speeds, and and not manage a turn especially to the left and keep the steering wheel in the same position when going through the turn. I always need to correct although a little amount, but it is annoying none the less. If you are driving in a cross wind, this problem really shows up, and also at higher speeds. At autobahn speeds it would not be driven. Coming from an E90 BMW it is one thing I notice right away. Yes I have other cars with the electric magnetic steering....another 2015 BMW 3 series, Porsche 911.
The service techs seem to laugh at me as if I was crazy...took a drive with one...he only wants to let go of the wheel and see where the car drifts, but finally I made the request for him to put both hands on the wheel...we finally hit a sweeping left going at 70 mph, and it was evident he was always correcting the steering angle, and I pointed this out to him. At this point he did not say much. He stated that he need to check the wheel alignment. Car goes in the shop...and I wait....and wait....service manager comes back and say they are waiting for a call from MB for upgraded specs for the alignment because they are a small dealer and can not access the latest company updates....hmmmmmm....still waiting....my sales assoc goes back to discuss my car, the sales manager goes back to discuss my car....service manager goes back also...I am never told what they are discussing. Finally the service manager tells me that they are giving me loaner, they do not have the alignment specs....hmmmmmm???? You have to be kidding! So I leave the dealership and drive another C class MB....it drives the way a car should drive when returning home.
Any one else have this problem? It will not show up in city driving, but really shows up driving in the country side. I often wonder why there are no full tests of this car or even a comparison test with a BMW 340i, maybe there is a problem with these cars....and a test with the BMW, it would lose handily in the handling department if given a full test. Maybe MB is holding back as they have to furnish the cars.
I am frustrated as hell, as only having just over 800 miles on the car.
Any comments?
The service techs seem to laugh at me as if I was crazy...took a drive with one...he only wants to let go of the wheel and see where the car drifts, but finally I made the request for him to put both hands on the wheel...we finally hit a sweeping left going at 70 mph, and it was evident he was always correcting the steering angle, and I pointed this out to him. At this point he did not say much. He stated that he need to check the wheel alignment. Car goes in the shop...and I wait....and wait....service manager comes back and say they are waiting for a call from MB for upgraded specs for the alignment because they are a small dealer and can not access the latest company updates....hmmmmmm....still waiting....my sales assoc goes back to discuss my car, the sales manager goes back to discuss my car....service manager goes back also...I am never told what they are discussing. Finally the service manager tells me that they are giving me loaner, they do not have the alignment specs....hmmmmmm???? You have to be kidding! So I leave the dealership and drive another C class MB....it drives the way a car should drive when returning home.
Any one else have this problem? It will not show up in city driving, but really shows up driving in the country side. I often wonder why there are no full tests of this car or even a comparison test with a BMW 340i, maybe there is a problem with these cars....and a test with the BMW, it would lose handily in the handling department if given a full test. Maybe MB is holding back as they have to furnish the cars.
I am frustrated as hell, as only having just over 800 miles on the car.
Any comments?
I have not experienced anything like the issue you describe. The steering has been accurate and direct and the vehicle handles wonderfully at highway (or any other) speed.
I hope your issue is nothing serious...
03-23-2016, 09:40 PM
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C450 AMG
Hello everyone,
I ordered a C450 AMG back in December 2015 to be delivered in April 2016. While waiting, I came across the whole renaming of the 450 to the 43 AMG from the news about the SLC43. I emailed the sales manager to confirm whether this was true and he said it wasn't. Fast forward to today, another dealership had confirmed the C43 AMG sedan to be released in 2017. Now my question is: should I renegotiate the C450 AMG which they tell me will be delivered in a weeks time or cancel the lease and opt for the C43 AMG with the 9G transmission and other rebadging decals. If I will go ahead with the C450, the car should be priced as an outgoing model/last production year due to name change as well as different transmission. What complications will I face from my dealer under this scenario? Thanks for the advice in advance!
I ordered a C450 AMG back in December 2015 to be delivered in April 2016. While waiting, I came across the whole renaming of the 450 to the 43 AMG from the news about the SLC43. I emailed the sales manager to confirm whether this was true and he said it wasn't. Fast forward to today, another dealership had confirmed the C43 AMG sedan to be released in 2017. Now my question is: should I renegotiate the C450 AMG which they tell me will be delivered in a weeks time or cancel the lease and opt for the C43 AMG with the 9G transmission and other rebadging decals. If I will go ahead with the C450, the car should be priced as an outgoing model/last production year due to name change as well as different transmission. What complications will I face from my dealer under this scenario? Thanks for the advice in advance!
03-23-2016, 09:58 PM
#3580
Honestly don't think you will be able to negotiate anything off the 450 due to the renaming. As of right now there is no concrete evidence that it's going to get the 9g transmission. So far the only guarantee is the new name.
I think it will be up to you whether you need a car now or if you can wait.
I think it will be up to you whether you need a car now or if you can wait.
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03-23-2016, 10:04 PM
#3582
Can fellow Canadians in this thread chime in on what percentage off MSRP you have been able to get on your cars. I live in the GTA and have been offered 3% off without any haggling. Wondering how much more wiggle room is left when I start pushing. Any recommended dealerships in GTA also?
Thanks!
Thanks!
03-23-2016, 10:14 PM
#3583
Hello everyone,
I ordered a C450 AMG back in December 2015 to be delivered in April 2016. While waiting, I came across the whole renaming of the 450 to the 43 AMG from the news about the SLC43. I emailed the sales manager to confirm whether this was true and he said it wasn't. Fast forward to today, another dealership had confirmed the C43 AMG sedan to be released in 2017. Now my question is: should I renegotiate the C450 AMG which they tell me will be delivered in a weeks time or cancel the lease and opt for the C43 AMG with the 9G transmission and other rebadging decals. If I will go ahead with the C450, the car should be priced as an outgoing model/last production year due to name change as well as different transmission. What complications will I face from my dealer under this scenario? Thanks for the advice in advance!
I ordered a C450 AMG back in December 2015 to be delivered in April 2016. While waiting, I came across the whole renaming of the 450 to the 43 AMG from the news about the SLC43. I emailed the sales manager to confirm whether this was true and he said it wasn't. Fast forward to today, another dealership had confirmed the C43 AMG sedan to be released in 2017. Now my question is: should I renegotiate the C450 AMG which they tell me will be delivered in a weeks time or cancel the lease and opt for the C43 AMG with the 9G transmission and other rebadging decals. If I will go ahead with the C450, the car should be priced as an outgoing model/last production year due to name change as well as different transmission. What complications will I face from my dealer under this scenario? Thanks for the advice in advance!
03-23-2016, 10:21 PM
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C450 AMG
If you like to save money, you renegotiate the c450 and you should be able to get around 3k off. I got 2k off Invoice in December but they had the winter event that had a $1,500 MB Incentive. If you want to pay MSRP, you wait for the c43. There should be no reason any one is paying anywhere close to MSRP for this car that is going to be re branded. Plus there is no information right now on any other changes, only the decals.
03-23-2016, 10:48 PM
#3585
Confirmed with another dealer that the C43 AMG will have the 9G transmission for 2017. With all the other cars in their lineup rebranded as the xxx43AMG with 9G transmission (New York Autoshow), I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the C43 AMG to maintain consistency. The real question is: is it worth it to pay MSRP for a different badge and a 9G transmission over the 7G?
03-23-2016, 10:48 PM
#3586
I think only you can answer that one. Is it worth it to you to get the C43 badge and the 9G?
Personally, the badging to me doesn't matter. I'm taking all the badges off anyways.
The transmission, 50/50. If they were putting in a dual clutch transmission, I would probably wait for that. 2 extra gears for slightly better fuel economy? Not worth it to me. I'm guessing the shift speeds would be a little quicker on the 9G as well but the 7G speeds didn't bother me.
Also, do you plan on keeping the car or is it just a lease? If you're keeping it, I would say get the 43. Lease, why wait, you will be getting out of it anyways, probably in time for the refresh.
Personally, the badging to me doesn't matter. I'm taking all the badges off anyways.
The transmission, 50/50. If they were putting in a dual clutch transmission, I would probably wait for that. 2 extra gears for slightly better fuel economy? Not worth it to me. I'm guessing the shift speeds would be a little quicker on the 9G as well but the 7G speeds didn't bother me.
Also, do you plan on keeping the car or is it just a lease? If you're keeping it, I would say get the 43. Lease, why wait, you will be getting out of it anyways, probably in time for the refresh.
03-23-2016, 10:52 PM
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I think only you can answer that one. Is it worth it to you to get the C43 badge and the 9G?
Personally, the badging to me doesn't matter. I'm taking all the badges off anyways.
The transmission, 50/50. If they were putting in a dual clutch transmission, I would probably wait for that. 2 extra gears for slightly better fuel economy? Not worth it to me. I'm guessing the shift speeds would be a little quicker on the 9G as well but the 7G speeds didn't bother me.
Also, do you plan on keeping the car or is it just a lease? If you're keeping it, I would say get the 43. Lease, why wait, you will be getting out of it anyways, probably in time for the refresh.
Personally, the badging to me doesn't matter. I'm taking all the badges off anyways.
The transmission, 50/50. If they were putting in a dual clutch transmission, I would probably wait for that. 2 extra gears for slightly better fuel economy? Not worth it to me. I'm guessing the shift speeds would be a little quicker on the 9G as well but the 7G speeds didn't bother me.
Also, do you plan on keeping the car or is it just a lease? If you're keeping it, I would say get the 43. Lease, why wait, you will be getting out of it anyways, probably in time for the refresh.
03-23-2016, 11:08 PM
#3589
Only the 9G does the gear skipping.
I'm not saying the 9G isn't be a better transmission, I'm sure it is, that's progress.
I just don't feel it's worth $3-4K more (depending on your discount off MSRP) and some badges.
I'm not saying the 9G isn't be a better transmission, I'm sure it is, that's progress.
I just don't feel it's worth $3-4K more (depending on your discount off MSRP) and some badges.
03-23-2016, 11:16 PM
#3590
F*ck it, I'm tired of waiting...I have been waiting to order the C450 since last August (wanted to wait until the Spring of this year to avoid having to mess with winter tires right off the bat), and I don't feel like waiting another 6 months.
I'm just going to lease a C450, instead of purchasing as originally planned, and I'll buy a new car once the lease expires. Just sent my dealer a note, going to try to go in and see him this weekend.
I'm just going to lease a C450, instead of purchasing as originally planned, and I'll buy a new car once the lease expires. Just sent my dealer a note, going to try to go in and see him this weekend.
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03-23-2016, 11:26 PM
#3591
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Maybe you have already thought of this and checked, but just in case...are any of the driver aids (Active Lane Keeping Assist, Steering Assist) activated? Also, maybe check to make sure all the lug bolts are tight on the front wheels.
I have not experienced anything like the issue you describe. The steering has been accurate and direct and the vehicle handles wonderfully at highway (or any other) speed.
I hope your issue is nothing serious...
I have not experienced anything like the issue you describe. The steering has been accurate and direct and the vehicle handles wonderfully at highway (or any other) speed.
I hope your issue is nothing serious...
Thanks for the comments. Yes I have turned off the driving aids. Lug bolts are tight. Car still in shop....no calls back from the dealership. Will wait until Friday and see if I get a call back. Sort of ticked that the service department, tried to Foo-Foo me off and there is something is not correct.
I just got done reading one new review of the car really praising the steering in the C450. Mine has none of the characteristics that they praise....I feel like I do know cars....owner of many, and also graduate of several driving schools...Bob Bondurant, and Skip Barber. The loaner C300 steers correctly; my C450 does not. I got to think that the power unit in the power steering system itself is not working correctly.
03-24-2016, 11:42 AM
#3592
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Hello everyone,
I ordered a C450 AMG back in December 2015 to be delivered in April 2016. While waiting, I came across the whole renaming of the 450 to the 43 AMG from the news about the SLC43. I emailed the sales manager to confirm whether this was true and he said it wasn't. Fast forward to today, another dealership had confirmed the C43 AMG sedan to be released in 2017. Now my question is: should I renegotiate the C450 AMG which they tell me will be delivered in a weeks time or cancel the lease and opt for the C43 AMG with the 9G transmission and other rebadging decals. If I will go ahead with the C450, the car should be priced as an outgoing model/last production year due to name change as well as different transmission. What complications will I face from my dealer under this scenario? Thanks for the advice in advance!
I ordered a C450 AMG back in December 2015 to be delivered in April 2016. While waiting, I came across the whole renaming of the 450 to the 43 AMG from the news about the SLC43. I emailed the sales manager to confirm whether this was true and he said it wasn't. Fast forward to today, another dealership had confirmed the C43 AMG sedan to be released in 2017. Now my question is: should I renegotiate the C450 AMG which they tell me will be delivered in a weeks time or cancel the lease and opt for the C43 AMG with the 9G transmission and other rebadging decals. If I will go ahead with the C450, the car should be priced as an outgoing model/last production year due to name change as well as different transmission. What complications will I face from my dealer under this scenario? Thanks for the advice in advance!
Sometimes, the landscape does truly change, new model announced, problems with the vehicle (ala Volkswagen, GM, etc) and they just really need to move product. Macro and local economic conditions can certainly impact that as well as silly traditional thinks like EOM/EOY targets..
A promo that was in place at the time of order and usually always be integrated into a later delivery sale. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise. But a NEW promo in the market that wasn't in place at the time of order can ALSO be incorporated. If you can get a fleet discount from SOME connection you may have it can always be laid down as the ACE at the end of a negotiation. It's not money out of the dealer pocket it's coming from the importer.
03-24-2016, 11:43 AM
#3593
Former Vendor of MBWorld
Hi, everyone!
Below is a link to the release thread of the new AWE Tuning C450 AMG Exhaust Suite!
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...lable-now.html
Below is a link to the release thread of the new AWE Tuning C450 AMG Exhaust Suite!
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...lable-now.html
03-24-2016, 12:41 PM
#3595
Former Vendor of MBWorld
03-24-2016, 10:03 PM
#3596
Ordered my C450 tonight...custom order (build is last week of May), 36 month lease, terms as follows:
MSRP: $63,960
Selling price: $55,564
Discount: $8,126, or 12.8%
Mileage: 15k or 12k miles/yr, yet to decide
Good deal?
Polar white
Interior Package w/ designo Saddle Brown Nappa leather interior
Multimedia Package
Premium 2 Package - LED headlamps and Burmeister Premium Surround Sound
Panorama Sunroof
Linden Wood
19" AMG Wheels, multispoke black
LED Lighting Package
AMG Performance Steering Wheel
Night Package
Hands Free Package
MSRP: $63,960
Selling price: $55,564
Discount: $8,126, or 12.8%
Mileage: 15k or 12k miles/yr, yet to decide
Good deal?
Polar white
Interior Package w/ designo Saddle Brown Nappa leather interior
Multimedia Package
Premium 2 Package - LED headlamps and Burmeister Premium Surround Sound
Panorama Sunroof
Linden Wood
19" AMG Wheels, multispoke black
LED Lighting Package
AMG Performance Steering Wheel
Night Package
Hands Free Package
Last edited by inhartwetrust; 03-24-2016 at 10:07 PM.
03-24-2016, 10:30 PM
#3597
Senior Member
Is it normal to have a battery charge indicator on the fuel consumption screen in the gear cluster display on a C450? I find it odd that the battery charge indicator would be there in a non-hybrid version...
03-24-2016, 11:14 PM
#3599
Ordered my C450 tonight...custom order (build is last week of May), 36 month lease, terms as follows:
MSRP: $63,960
Selling price: $55,564
Discount: $8,126, or 12.8%
Mileage: 15k or 12k miles/yr, yet to decide
Good deal?
Polar white
Interior Package w/ designo Saddle Brown Nappa leather interior
Multimedia Package
Premium 2 Package - LED headlamps and Burmeister Premium Surround Sound
Panorama Sunroof
Linden Wood
19" AMG Wheels, multispoke black
LED Lighting Package
AMG Performance Steering Wheel
Night Package
Hands Free Package
MSRP: $63,960
Selling price: $55,564
Discount: $8,126, or 12.8%
Mileage: 15k or 12k miles/yr, yet to decide
Good deal?
Polar white
Interior Package w/ designo Saddle Brown Nappa leather interior
Multimedia Package
Premium 2 Package - LED headlamps and Burmeister Premium Surround Sound
Panorama Sunroof
Linden Wood
19" AMG Wheels, multispoke black
LED Lighting Package
AMG Performance Steering Wheel
Night Package
Hands Free Package
03-25-2016, 02:25 PM
#3600
Junior Member
Taking the plunge!
Hi there folks, long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I've had my eye on a mercedes for quite some time, but never new what I was missing until I drove a friends S4 recently while my car was in the shop. Its finally time for a new whip, and I instantly took to the more generous torque and horsepower as well as engine noise, but the new merc interiors on the c-class line had me thinking S4-type sportiness but in MB form. So reading up on the C450 has me very excited, and I plan to take the plunge and get one in early April.
I've read most of the posts on here and did some of my own research and a few concerns have come up I was hoping i could get a few replies to:
1) i've read several posts about a loud,intrusive droning noise I'm hoping this was the exception rather than a more widespread issue, are there other folks on here who have to live with this?
2) Is the road/wind noise relatively muted at a steady highway cruise? There are days where being dead tired on the commute back home I would just want some peace and quiet in comfort mode, and a little road isolation
3) There have been a few posts about acceleration issues while passing someone after having slowed down. is this a widespread occurence?
4) while I'm loving the designo brown saddle interior, looks like i can't get it with the black ash trim which I also love, is it possible to have the dealer order and install one post-purchase?
Again, I'm hoping these are all rare issues and I'm excited to join the C450 community! Thanks in advance.
I've read most of the posts on here and did some of my own research and a few concerns have come up I was hoping i could get a few replies to:
1) i've read several posts about a loud,intrusive droning noise I'm hoping this was the exception rather than a more widespread issue, are there other folks on here who have to live with this?
2) Is the road/wind noise relatively muted at a steady highway cruise? There are days where being dead tired on the commute back home I would just want some peace and quiet in comfort mode, and a little road isolation
3) There have been a few posts about acceleration issues while passing someone after having slowed down. is this a widespread occurence?
4) while I'm loving the designo brown saddle interior, looks like i can't get it with the black ash trim which I also love, is it possible to have the dealer order and install one post-purchase?
Again, I'm hoping these are all rare issues and I'm excited to join the C450 community! Thanks in advance.
