C450 AMG Sport discussion only.
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Well finally the C450 is on MBUSA.
As expected the C450 is 5000 dollars more than a similarly configured C400.
For the pleasure you get magnetic suspension (instead of optional air), 10% more rear bias, slightly larger brakes and lots of AMG badges which you can delete for free. Same engine and transmission with an "AMG tune" which are both also available from Renntech for 2000 bucks with more power (12hp) and TQ (20lbs). You cant get vented seats anymore.
So I guess I just saved myself 3000 bucks for a faster car. BTW, no mention of Pilot SuperSport tires, as expected, since there are no available run flats.
If you haven't jumped the bridge yet, you might be able to get a C400 with a 5000 dollar discount and pile those 10,000 bucks for a better "tune", real sport rubber and lots of other goodies
As expected the C450 is 5000 dollars more than a similarly configured C400.
For the pleasure you get magnetic suspension (instead of optional air), 10% more rear bias, slightly larger brakes and lots of AMG badges which you can delete for free. Same engine and transmission with an "AMG tune" which are both also available from Renntech for 2000 bucks with more power (12hp) and TQ (20lbs). You cant get vented seats anymore.
So I guess I just saved myself 3000 bucks for a faster car. BTW, no mention of Pilot SuperSport tires, as expected, since there are no available run flats.
If you haven't jumped the bridge yet, you might be able to get a C400 with a 5000 dollar discount and pile those 10,000 bucks for a better "tune", real sport rubber and lots of other goodies
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Please let us know when you take it to Willow Springs and find out if you can tell the difference 10% makes.
Im fairly sure that it will be impossible to tell in any other situation. As everyone is aware the 400 will not rotate regardless how hard you push it even after adding 50 hp to it. If the 450 will wag its tail or slide, particularly after adding real sport rubber, it will be a surprise. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 450. I'm sure its excellent but up to 10k bucks better than its predecessor.......NAHHHH 
. Maybe 1k at best. Its like the Porsche optional clock on the 911 for 2000 dollars!
Im fairly sure that it will be impossible to tell in any other situation. As everyone is aware the 400 will not rotate regardless how hard you push it even after adding 50 hp to it. If the 450 will wag its tail or slide, particularly after adding real sport rubber, it will be a surprise. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 450. I'm sure its excellent but up to 10k bucks better than its predecessor.......NAHHHH . Maybe 1k at best. Its like the Porsche optional clock on the 911 for 2000 dollars!
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C450, GLS 63 and a few other things
c4004matic,
I beg you to keep out of this thread. Everyone gets you agenda, and as far as I can tell no one will agree. This thread is extremely helpful to those ordering and purchasing a C450. It has nothing to do with a C400, and to clutter it with your stuff and the responses that will surely come will ruin a great thread. Feel free to start a new one if need to discuss further.
I beg you to keep out of this thread. Everyone gets you agenda, and as far as I can tell no one will agree. This thread is extremely helpful to those ordering and purchasing a C450. It has nothing to do with a C400, and to clutter it with your stuff and the responses that will surely come will ruin a great thread. Feel free to start a new one if need to discuss further.
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Please let us know when you take it to Willow Springs and find out if you can tell the difference 10% makes. Im fairly sure that it will be impossible to tell in any other situation. As everyone is aware the 400 will not rotate regardless how hard you push it even after adding 50 hp to it. If the 450 will wag its tail or slide, particularly after adding real sport rubber, it will be a surprise. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 450. I'm sure its excellent but up to 10k bucks better than its predecessor.......NAHHHH . Maybe 1k at best. Its like the Porsche optional clock on the 911 for 2000 dollars!
Im fairly sure that it will be impossible to tell in any other situation. As everyone is aware the 400 will not rotate regardless how hard you push it even after adding 50 hp to it. If the 450 will wag its tail or slide, particularly after adding real sport rubber, it will be a surprise. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 450. I'm sure its excellent but up to 10k bucks better than its predecessor.......NAHHHH . Maybe 1k at best. Its like the Porsche optional clock on the 911 for 2000 dollars!
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Please let us know when you take it to Willow Springs and find out if you can tell the difference 10% makes. Im fairly sure that it will be impossible to tell in any other situation. As everyone is aware the 400 will not rotate regardless how hard you push it even after adding 50 hp to it. If the 450 will wag its tail or slide, particularly after adding real sport rubber, it will be a surprise. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 450. I'm sure its excellent but up to 10k bucks better than its predecessor.......NAHHHH . Maybe 1k at best. Its like the Porsche optional clock on the 911 for 2000 dollars!
Im fairly sure that it will be impossible to tell in any other situation. As everyone is aware the 400 will not rotate regardless how hard you push it even after adding 50 hp to it. If the 450 will wag its tail or slide, particularly after adding real sport rubber, it will be a surprise. As I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 450. I'm sure its excellent but up to 10k bucks better than its predecessor.......NAHHHH . Maybe 1k at best. Its like the Porsche optional clock on the 911 for 2000 dollars!
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you can add an AMG sticker on that too!
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Hey someone maybe interested in a cheaper alternative to c450 before they are all gone!!!! There may be a lonely C400 on some dealer lot looking for someone looking for a real good deal. No need for sassiness! Im sure you'll will all be just as happy with your red seat stitching, seatbelts and AMG side badges! Hey Ill even give you a link to some nice fans for the seats since they are not available any more:
Amazon.com: ARCTIC F8 PWM Rev. 2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing Case Fan, 80mm PWM Speed Control, 31CFM at 22.5dBA: Computers & Accessories_
you can add an AMG sticker on that too!
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you can add an AMG sticker on that too!
That's big talk coming from a guy who's other car is a 2015 Acura MDX. Clearly when it comes to purchasing cars, you have a history of making poor choices. I know, its the wife's car or something. There are plenty of C400's collecting dust on the back lots of dealerships.
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That's big talk coming from a guy who's other car is a 2015 Acura MDX. Clearly when it comes to purchasing cars, you have a history of making poor choices. I know, its the wife's car or something. There are plenty of C400's collecting dust on the back lots of dealerships.
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Here is the latest version of C450vsC400 differences document, just in case anyone wants to quantify the last C400 on the lot against waiting for a C450:
I would love to see the OEM price of the parts in red
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Great, just got a build update and it looks like the rearview camera was taken out of the multimedia package and charged separately:
Before
320 Multimedia Package $ 2,690
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
Lovely...
Before
320 Multimedia Package $ 2,690
U71 : DVD Coding
218 : Rearview Camera
502 : Navigation Map Updates included for 3-years
531 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
815 : COMAND DVD CD Single
After218 : Rearview Camera
502 : Navigation Map Updates included for 3-years
531 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
815 : COMAND DVD CD Single
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
815 : COMAND DVD CD Single
531 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
502 : Navigation Map Updates included for 3-ye
U71 : DVD Coding
218 Rearview Camera $460531 : COMAND w/Navigation and Voice Control
502 : Navigation Map Updates included for 3-ye
U71 : DVD Coding
Lovely...
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Thanks for posting this, very interesting all the differences. I had priced out a C400 and comparably-equipped as possible the MSRP was only about $3K less for the C400. The increase for the C450 is well worth it for everything you're getting, IMO.
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Yep... Monetarily, the 488 AMG Adaptive Suspension alone, covers that difference.
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Granted, you have a lot more negotiating power with a C400 (if any are left, there are none at the ~6 M-B dealers in my area) but M-B definitely built more value into the MSRP of the C450, and transaction prices will always be higher on the new-hotness versus a discontinued model.
On a side note, my car arrives within 15 days!
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218 Rearview Camera $460
235 PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist $970
...you should look into the Parking Assist Package ($1290). It includes 235, and the Surround View System (360 camera) has a rear camera that replaces the camera that comes with the rearview camera ($460) option.235 PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist $970
It is definitely part of the ordering system, as of today (and I am not talking about the updated configurator, it's in the ordering system that was used to produce your original PO#).
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Is your build still green (or even yellow, although I think all of the current builds went directly from green to red)? If you ordered
It is definitely part of the ordering system, as of today (and I am not talking about the updated configurator, it's in the ordering system that was used to produce your original PO#).
218 Rearview Camera $460
235 PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist $970
...you should look into the Parking Assist Package ($1290). It includes 235, and the Surround View System (360 camera) has a rear camera that replaces the camera that comes with the rearview camera ($460) option.235 PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist $970
It is definitely part of the ordering system, as of today (and I am not talking about the updated configurator, it's in the ordering system that was used to produce your original PO#).
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My dealer called the build process manager to see if there was anyway to add it now (I think he did it just to see what response he would get - neither of us thought there was any hope of actually getting it added)... the answer was Obama himself would have to order another vehicle at this point
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I feel the same way! I wasn't given this option back in August when I build my C63 (wrong forum, I know). It would be a no-brainer to pay an extra $320 for the 360 camera. I'm actually pretty annoyed that this option was not available.
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Is it a $60,955 Iridium w/ black leather and red accents (VIN 55SWF6EB8GU103635)?
It seems to come up as inventory for every dealer that I look at through MBUSA.
It seems to come up as inventory for every dealer that I look at through MBUSA.
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Come to think of it, I didn't equip the C400 with Airmatic. So considering that's an $1190 option it would reduce the price difference even more.
Granted, you have a lot more negotiating power with a C400 (if any are left, there are none at the ~6 M-B dealers in my area) but M-B definitely built more value into the MSRP of the C450, and transaction prices will always be higher on the new-hotness versus a discontinued model.
On a side note, my car arrives within 15 days!
Granted, you have a lot more negotiating power with a C400 (if any are left, there are none at the ~6 M-B dealers in my area) but M-B definitely built more value into the MSRP of the C450, and transaction prices will always be higher on the new-hotness versus a discontinued model.
On a side note, my car arrives within 15 days!
But the price differential is true my fully loaded c400, every thing except fart disguiser was 62k. If you add the tune its still a 3k difference plus you wouldnt expect the manufacturer to add any price for simply giving you a different engine and transmission "mapping". A fully equipped C450 without the fancy seats is 67. They jacked up the price, a lot. Whether the magnetic shocks are worth a 5k premium over the airbags is highly suspect. Ive had magnetorheologic dampers before (on an Acura) they were indeed better than the "standard" at the time, however, I did buy the next model of the same vehicle which didnt offer ferrofluid shocks and the new car handles just as well as the one with the variable shocks. The airbags on the C class work quite well though you cant ratchet them to butt pounding levels. Id love to see an actual test head to head to see mags vs bags offer any quantifiable advantages.
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