Green filter users : CHECK YOUR AIRBOX right meow.
10-12-2008, 09:04 PM
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Green filter users : CHECK YOUR AIRBOX right meow.
I had mine for about an year.. I cleaned it once with the cleaning kit 6 months ago so I thought it would be nice to clean it this time of the year.
So I removed the air ducts, took out the airbox and I can feel that filters are moving around.... Of course I went WTF and when I looked at the inside.. I saw 2 of my filters completely out of place.. When I opened the box, I was in for more supirse...
Rubber things were soft like hot cheese..all melted.. Kinda made me hungry and I did have pizza for dinner that night. Anyway... Yea.. filters were collapsed n they kinda blocked the airpassage..
I don't even know how long I drove my car like this.. I def going to change my oil once I get the replacement filters.... I thought they fixed this issue.. I think I got the latest version... Anyway..... Let's see if they wiill stand behind their products..
sry about bad pictures.. I took it with my cell..
So I removed the air ducts, took out the airbox and I can feel that filters are moving around.... Of course I went WTF and when I looked at the inside.. I saw 2 of my filters completely out of place.. When I opened the box, I was in for more supirse...
Rubber things were soft like hot cheese..all melted.. Kinda made me hungry and I did have pizza for dinner that night. Anyway... Yea.. filters were collapsed n they kinda blocked the airpassage..
I don't even know how long I drove my car like this.. I def going to change my oil once I get the replacement filters.... I thought they fixed this issue.. I think I got the latest version... Anyway..... Let's see if they wiill stand behind their products..
sry about bad pictures.. I took it with my cell..
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10-12-2008, 09:18 PM
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I say let Green Filter and ask for a replacement...I use both that and K&N and like them the same but can say the K&N is made sturdier but the Greens seem like they breath better...get a replacement.
10-12-2008, 09:23 PM
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I wish I kept my stock ones... Now I cant drive mine... Unless I buy OEM ones from the dealer
10-12-2008, 09:50 PM
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Hmmm...I wonder...I haven't bought any filters yet. Should I go Green, or stay safe with K&N? I've heard K&Ns can cause problems with the O2 sensor.
10-12-2008, 09:56 PM
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However, many fourm members uses K&N w/o any problems...
10-12-2008, 10:17 PM
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some people over oil their filters and K&Ns tend to be more oily from what i have heard. the excess oil can affect the MAP sensor. just dont over oil them. make sure they are oozing before putting them back in.
10-13-2008, 12:58 AM
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10-13-2008, 01:32 AM
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Green filters did the same thing in my E55 and a lot of others. I won't use them now. I use all BMC filters. Higher quality than K&N and flow better than the Greens. They're more expensive though.
10-13-2008, 02:38 AM
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$30 the pair for oem paper filters,that out flow both Green and K/N and don't melt like goo.You just order a set from autohausaz.com when you order your fleece oil filter kit $15 , and shipping is free.Kills two birds with one stone
I hope none of that expanded urethane got sucked down the intake.That could cause quite a mess on the piston rings.You may want to keep some records and pictures and send a certified letter to Green ,so you have it in writing that you have lodged a complaint of possible damage.
I hope none of that expanded urethane got sucked down the intake.That could cause quite a mess on the piston rings.You may want to keep some records and pictures and send a certified letter to Green ,so you have it in writing that you have lodged a complaint of possible damage.
10-13-2008, 02:48 AM
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$30 the pair for oem paper filters,that out flow both Green and K/N and don't melt like goo.You just order a set from autohausaz.com when you order your fleece oil filter kit $15 , and shipping is free.Kills two birds with one stone
I hope none of that expanded urethane got sucked down the intake.That could cause quite a mess on the piston rings.You may want to keep some records and pictures and send a certified letter to Green ,so you have it in writing that you have lodged a complaint of possible damage.
I hope none of that expanded urethane got sucked down the intake.That could cause quite a mess on the piston rings.You may want to keep some records and pictures and send a certified letter to Green ,so you have it in writing that you have lodged a complaint of possible damage.
Yea.. I'm worried that some of those thing might went in to the engine... Thank you for your comment.. I will keep that in mind.
10-13-2008, 05:01 AM
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"interesting filter test".Or something to that extent.Compares several filters k/n included at standard test ratings.After 30 minutes at 350 cu ft of flow per minute k/n flowed less air than a paper oem filter and passed 8 times more dirt.Very few owners ever reach the factory limited top speed of their model and most that docan attest to the fact that on OEM paper filters the engine is still pulling and is surely not lacking clean air to want to go faster.
Please anyone using K/N or Green it is your choice so leave me alone you give me a head ache I race Mercedes, build the engines,I use paper filters,so does AMG and the factory teams.You use what you want to use and we use what we want to use.$30 for a pair of OEM paper filters is cheaper than the hassle of having to worry about
"Inspecting them regularly is sound advice. Similar failures have occurred previously"
If I need to hear from the followers of the k/n hype and the green ad campaign about quality and flow and unsubstantiated h.p. gains and then read quotes like above from a user of the product,that pretty much tells me more than I need to know even if I knew nothing about the product previously.
Sorta like sprintbooster admitting themselves that their product actually does nothing,it just makes you feel like it does something
can attest to the fact that on OEM paper filters the engine is still pulling and is surely not lacking clean air to want to go faster.Please anyone using K/N or Green it is your choice so leave me alone you give me a head ache
I race Mercedes, build the engines,I use paper filters,so does AMG and the factory teams.You use what you want to use and we use what we want to use.$30 for a pair of OEM paper filters is cheaper than the hassle of having to worry about"Inspecting them regularly is sound advice. Similar failures have occurred previously"
If I need to hear from the followers of the k/n hype and the green ad campaign about quality and flow and unsubstantiated h.p. gains and then read quotes like above from a user of the product,that pretty much tells me more than I need to know even if I knew nothing about the product previously.
Sorta like sprintbooster admitting themselves that their product actually does nothing,it just makes you feel like it does something
10-13-2008, 11:04 AM
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"interesting filter test".Or something to that extent.Compares several filters k/n included at standard test ratings.After 30 minutes at 350 cu ft of flow per minute k/n flowed less air than a paper oem filter and passed 8 times more dirt.Very few owners ever reach the factory limited top speed of their model and most that docan attest to the fact that on OEM paper filters the engine is still pulling and is surely not lacking clean air to want to go faster.
Please anyone using K/N or Green it is your choice so leave me alone you give me a head ache I race Mercedes, build the engines,I use paper filters,so does AMG and the factory teams.You use what you want to use and we use what we want to use.$30 for a pair of OEM paper filters is cheaper than the hassle of having to worry about
"Inspecting them regularly is sound advice. Similar failures have occurred previously"
If I need to hear from the followers of the k/n hype and the green ad campaign about quality and flow and unsubstantiated h.p. gains and then read quotes like above from a user of the product,that pretty much tells me more than I need to know even if I knew nothing about the product previously.
Sorta like sprintbooster admitting themselves that their product actually does nothing,it just makes you feel like it does something
can attest to the fact that on OEM paper filters the engine is still pulling and is surely not lacking clean air to want to go faster.Please anyone using K/N or Green it is your choice so leave me alone you give me a head ache
I race Mercedes, build the engines,I use paper filters,so does AMG and the factory teams.You use what you want to use and we use what we want to use.$30 for a pair of OEM paper filters is cheaper than the hassle of having to worry about"Inspecting them regularly is sound advice. Similar failures have occurred previously"
If I need to hear from the followers of the k/n hype and the green ad campaign about quality and flow and unsubstantiated h.p. gains and then read quotes like above from a user of the product,that pretty much tells me more than I need to know even if I knew nothing about the product previously.
Sorta like sprintbooster admitting themselves that their product actually does nothing,it just makes you feel like it does something
10-13-2008, 11:13 AM
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QuickTT - sorry to see this. Unfortunately, it is a known issue with the greens. I suggest treating the problem with the company as if you were in the US. Use a friend's address and handle it that way. Then have the new ones shipped to you.
10-13-2008, 11:25 AM
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Currently, I'm waiting on an email / PM from the vendor I purchased these filters from
I'm sure everything will go smooth...Greens should send me a set of replacement OVERNIGHT to korea.. ok.. maybe not overnight but...I don't think I should have to pay for s/h to Korea. Mainly, I'm kinda worried that some of those rubber stuff might got in to the engine.......That would.. reallly sux.. since i'm out of warrenty..
FOR NOW, I'm picking up a set of paper filters tomo so I can drive this **** around..
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10-13-2008, 12:03 PM
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Looking at their convoluted
dyno charts 3% is well within any margin of error on any dyno pull,it's still a cotton filter with oil,but if it suits your needs and you feel it serves the purpose of an air filter. Clean air in a quantity sufficient for the displacement of the engine and flow of the heads,that's that matters. The intention of an air filter is to filter air and protect your engine BMC looks to be of the same construction as the other G and K filters if it lets the same amount of dirt past,I don't want it on my engines.But remember that's just my opinion.
10-13-2008, 12:29 PM
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"interesting filter test".Or something to that extent.Compares several filters k/n included at standard test ratings.After 30 minutes at 350 cu ft of flow per minute k/n flowed less air than a paper oem filter and passed 8 times more dirt.Very few owners ever reach the factory limited top speed of their model and most that docan attest to the fact that on OEM paper filters the engine is still pulling and is surely not lacking clean air to want to go faster.
Please anyone using K/N or Green it is your choice so leave me alone you give me a head ache I race Mercedes, build the engines,I use paper filters,so does AMG and the factory teams.You use what you want to use and we use what we want to use.$30 for a pair of OEM paper filters is cheaper than the hassle of having to worry about
"Inspecting them regularly is sound advice. Similar failures have occurred previously"
If I need to hear from the followers of the k/n hype and the green ad campaign about quality and flow and unsubstantiated h.p. gains and then read quotes like above from a user of the product,that pretty much tells me more than I need to know even if I knew nothing about the product previously.
Sorta like sprintbooster admitting themselves that their product actually does nothing,it just makes you feel like it does something
can attest to the fact that on OEM paper filters the engine is still pulling and is surely not lacking clean air to want to go faster.Please anyone using K/N or Green it is your choice so leave me alone you give me a head ache
I race Mercedes, build the engines,I use paper filters,so does AMG and the factory teams.You use what you want to use and we use what we want to use.$30 for a pair of OEM paper filters is cheaper than the hassle of having to worry about"Inspecting them regularly is sound advice. Similar failures have occurred previously"
If I need to hear from the followers of the k/n hype and the green ad campaign about quality and flow and unsubstantiated h.p. gains and then read quotes like above from a user of the product,that pretty much tells me more than I need to know even if I knew nothing about the product previously.
Sorta like sprintbooster admitting themselves that their product actually does nothing,it just makes you feel like it does something
10-13-2008, 01:48 PM
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10-13-2008, 03:03 PM
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didnt C32used do a little "experiment" with the stockies, greens, and K&Ns? I think in his sig he posts the different times/traps for each one. C32used, was this done under the same conditions for each? (same night or temp or track or whatnot)
