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Old 02-20-2008, 09:49 AM
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any W209 numbers?
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r u serious

i think car&driver got it to 13.1-13.2

have u ever raced one?

sorry for hijacking this thread
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r u serious

i think car&driver got it to 13.1-13.2

have u ever raced one?

sorry for hijacking this thread
I was exaggerating with my comment. I've been trying to line up with a stock W209 CLK55 at the track for 3 years....no takers.

They are very close to our times (within .1 - .2 seconds), but despite the added 20hp, they are slightly more portly than our W208s.

Check out drag times.com for more details. Just make sure to compare stock to stock.
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Originally Posted by Quant
is that the best #s for a stock W208 & W209?

i'm looking to go to E-town soon to see how close i can get to those #s.

btw, our 5.4L are stronger than ppl think. i easily stayed w/ 6.0L GTOs and SRT8 . They both have 400+ HP and TQ.
The Chapsters right ,the 209's are heavier but they do run good. I give it to the W208 though less weight.

However you running with the cars listed above is no surprise. I think the we own the ultimate sleepers


Clk55 w208's and 209's are low 13 sec cars. A few mod's, and high to mid 12's would not surprise me!!

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No, but I'm very close. Check this thread....

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ghlight=13.349

Carl, I can see you've been making significant improvements. Hope to catch you at another meet soon!
Yes I say the exhaust I have does hep there bro!!! We definitely have to hook up my good buddy!!!


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is that the best #s for a stock W208 & W209?

i'm looking to go to E-town soon to see how close i can get to those #s.
By the way March 5th I'll be meeting out at E-town with some SL500's,if you are interested pm me and let me know!

One of the SL500 owners handle on this forum is Tech-Tune he also has the info. Pm him also if you'd like!

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:11 PM
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05 ML-500 , 03 CLK5.5 AMG has left the Garage
I'm Readin Ya

And the Chapster though I was readin this thread.
Hey KoolCarlski, How about a nice decorative air box front Cover When you finish that Ram air induction System . Got any Pics. This is a cool thread Cheers ___PTEngineering
Old 02-21-2008, 12:10 AM
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And the Chapster though I was readin this thread.
Hey KoolCarlski, How about a nice decorative air box front Cover When you finish that Ram air induction System . Got any Pics. This is a cool thread Cheers ___PTEngineering
I 'll Have some pics soon Patty. I don't think I'm going to go with the AMG cover again.

This thing does not seam to come anywhere as near to the engine heat. When you're ready I can send you know what back,I think I'm good with this setup! Just gotta themo tech the bottom of the mani.

I also notice that Kleemann uses the same setup I'm using for the Supercharger kit for the N/A 55's.

This is very similar to my setup.

here:

CLK/ML style box in Richie's car and mines as well.




E430/320 style box that Kleeman uses.




Now in the front of the CLK box towards the bottom of it I have implanted TWO dual 3" tubes drawing air from the fog light area which I deleted the fog light from and the other hose at the old stck airtube inlet.The car eally pulls hard in he higher rpm's and midrange. Nice and torquie down low as well. The CLK box seems to hold more volume,I guess partly due to chassis and clearance reasons.

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sounds like airplane


also, modified the portion of my belly pan pieces directly below it. A similar set-up would work NA as well too.

May or may not be better than the stock style airbox (could definitely use a heat shield or box around it)
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also, modified the portion of my belly pan pieces directly below it. A similar set-up would work NA as well too.

May or may not be better than the stock style airbox (could definitely use a heat shield or box around it)
I have one of the 3" hoses coming up that area,know it well. I think I will try to make that area wider some how to accept both hoses. You just gave me a nice idea even though I don't really want to cut any metal but may have to. If you get rid of the pasengers side fog light she'll take in a hole lot more air thru the bumper.

Yes I built heat shields around my whole setup as well.

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05 ML-500 , 03 CLK5.5 AMG has left the Garage
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Damnnnn your up early I hope you find a way to route the other side with a independant 3" cold air Duct. Looks like you found your answer to the sluggish hot weather issues. Good work ___PTE___

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Originally Posted by silence


also, modified the portion of my belly pan pieces directly below it. A similar set-up would work NA as well too.

May or may not be better than the stock style airbox (could definitely use a heat shield or box around it)
Looks like mine bud. Hey did you use one of the amsoil filters I was talking about? They are dry and very nice quality nano material. I ordered a replacement to have on hand. Perfect size. It was hard finding the smaller size filter with the 3.5in opening to mate it right to the MAF housing. Mine goes elbow-MAF-filter after the TB.

Also, I had to use some longer bolts to lower the oil cooler about an inch that sits in the passenger foglight area. Not as much room in there as in the drivers side.
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And the Chapster though I was readin this thread.
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sounds like airplane
I have a huge aem dry flow filter that isn't installed in that picture.

with that angle i was able to fit a much larger filter

what did you do with the temperature probe that used to be in your coolant overflow? i extrended mine to the new tank, but it seems to be causing a dummy light.

btw- i also have all my gauges here now- ngk afx, digital boost/vac, digital fuel pressure, digital iat, and voltage.
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Damnnnn your up early I hope you find a way to route the other side with a independant 3" cold air Duct. Looks like you found your answer to the sluggish hot weather issues. Good work ___PTE___
LOL! Oh yes! I definitely have the other 3" tube routed Patty. It leaves the box and connects to the hole where the stck plastic air filter tube was mounted near the front grill of the car. However I wanna see if I could mount it out to the same high pressure area that I have the other tube installed at, by the foglight. Then I really wanna seal this intake box better.

I just have to take the pics and show you guys.
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Nice work Carl! I would need to relocate some stuff to make it work. Here is a pic of my engine bay the day after I drove it home. I can tell you hoe to fit a SL splitter if you dcide to use intakes from both sides. Looks like the ABS is in the way on the passenger side

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Nice work Carl! I would need to relocate some stuff to make it work. Here is a pic of my engine bay the day after I drove it home. I can tell you hoe to fit a SL splitter if you dcide to use intakes from both sides. Looks like the ABS is in the way on the passenger side

Pic is not showing up Ahmad

However the splitter setup would be the ultimate setup . I had the E55 compressor airboxes and sold them after trying and failing to get the splitter to wrk on my MAF. If you know how,do tell. The only thing is that I would have to thermo tec the hell out of the the E55Kcompressor airboxes so that they would be resistant to the heat coming from the valve covers. I'd probably get the valve covers Swain coated on the outter surface as well to protect the air boxes from the heat since they mount on top of them.

How do you get the splittersto work by the way and remember you ned something to house the airfilters.


SpeedyBenz mentioned the A/C dryer being in the way but yes I think the ABS system is in the way as well.

Believe me if I have to re-plumb and move stuff I am going to make this happen

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The pic works for me

I took some pics of my exhaust setup today but havent transferred it to the comp yet.

I have the SL splitter on my car right now. You have to take the MAF and drill two holes in the sides near the top and drill two holes at the bottom of the splitter. Put screws through both holes to hold them on. I wish I had taken pics as I was doing it last night to make it clearer.
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The pic works for me
Because of the size, the service provider won't let you link the photo. I put it here:

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No pics for me just dead links too

>edit< Looks like Marcus solved it
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Good job Marcus.

Wow Ahmad when did you do this setup? That's what I'm talking about nice.
The only thing that spoils your setup is that you r running the hoses to the stck location. It can be done better when place in the bumper in the foglight area.


You would run the hoses(aftermarket ones that is and which I have) from the intake tanks to the holes in the bumper because this is where you will have the highest pressurized area. By the way,thermo tec those airfilter tanks by the way from the heat that comes from the valve covers and Swain coat the valve covers for even more of a heat barrier.

I will show you the passenger side hole. The drivers side hole has the AC dryer in the way. I will take pics of what I am trying to explain to you tomorrow.

By the way I think the factory manifold inlet may be designed differently than the inlet on your Kleeman manifold.

Remember the N/A manifold uses that small plastic 3" tube that the MAF sits on which connects the MAF and everything else to the factory intake manifold. This may be an issue for me unfortunately so I still don't think I could install the splitter.

Are these also the pieces from the SL55?

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As much as I also like this setup Ahmad I often wonder if having two intakes ,one on each side of the car makes a tremendous diference. The air does collide into each other as it reaches the splitter where as in a single tube design 3" design like the CLK and E430 the air just goes thru and has staight path. Basically it's similar in concept to the V8Audi RS4 setup. Hmm but now that I think about it there may be an advantage but even more so If we were able to put a bigger MAF and throttle body.

The Audi S4 V6TT and the other Audi V8's use a huge MAF body. I realy only need to get one and switch the MAF sensor with the MB sensor if it would fit inside. I'd also see if I could put a bigger throttle body.

Then I think I'll really be on to something.

Like I said though ,I did modify the front of the MB airbox to receive TWO 3" ducts that are running to the foglight area in the bumper and front grill of the car by the old airtube location. I did rid that location of the plastic piece that allowed you to mount the front of the stck inlet hose there,which now gives me more that 3"s of clearance.
The car runs like a beast I must tell you, because I have pressurized the airbox with the aftermarket 3" hoses I purchased. I just need to seal the box a little more for complete pressurization.
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Audi RS4 V8 setup ONE hose feeding to the back of the intake mani like our MB's. While at the same time avoiding the heat by not running over the tops of the valve covers ala CLK55,C43,W210E55 and the other N/A S,CL 55 cars. : This is why I stress using the comparible but smaller 3" CLK320 and E430 setups like Kleeman uses also.






Also the intake hose and MAF are HUGE (I believe 3.75 or 4" maybe a lil more)if you can notice. Look at where the airbox receive it's forced air. That's good but not as good as receiving it from the lower front bumper area where there is a TREMENDOUS amt of air pressure when the car is moving.

As far as the Audi MAF ,you would only have to chnge the sensor plug and put the MB one in the hole. This will be my next step. Hopefully that is. Just gotta play around and see what works.

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M3 V8 setup and air feed from front of car by radiator support and I believe side fenders.






Single intake hose setup and avoids running over stck valve covers alltogether. Better engineering I guess we could say but these setups could max potential by being rounted from the foglight area of the bumper or near there.
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Ask victor if the vrp airbox and tubes will work for your car... that would be huge gains. And I'm gonna go out on a limb and say maybe you should consider an updated cluster now, one with at least 180mph (:


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