List of LTH (Long Tube Headers) Manufacturers for C63?
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570 at the crank from a K3 package would equate to around 465rwhp. I don't think I've ever seen a Kleemann 63, or any car that didn't have longtubes vs manifolds make those numbers and I don't think anyone has ever tested their larger throttle bodys on their own either. Should prove interesting.
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The best number I see with their tune and full exhaust is 537ps which is 530HP. Some tuners are seeing those numbers or better with tune alone.We need to see this system/tune at track at work. My question is, can someone cut through all the fog and just tell me in USD what the exhaust will cost including taxes, import fees, etc?TIA!
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Hi B - I was going to go with Kleemann K4 but apparently they are having problems with the cams and the launch of the product according to Corry is aways off. So now I am going to piece what I can together as follows:
1. KW K3 Coilerovers
2. ECU/Headers/pipes - if Cargraphic checks out I might go with them. If not then I will go with K3 from Kleemann which covers ECU upgrade, a set headers with sport cats, and large trottle system. They throw filters in as well, but I don't think there will be much gain with filters. Should put me around 570 at crank.
3. Evo pulley
4. Just ordered some Rays VR G2s which should cut some serious weight off running OEM rims. Need to decide on some rubber, but shooting for 275 min on rear
5. CF hood arrives on Monday
6. CF front lip diffuser is already and ready for install.
7. CF roof spolier arrived Tuesday
8. RevoSport CF grill on order
9. EvoSport 2-Piece Rotors -back ordered
That would be it. I have already done most of the interior except for CF gauge cluster which I will be ordering from MaCarbon. That should be it for the time been. These things are money-pit!
1. KW K3 Coilerovers
2. ECU/Headers/pipes - if Cargraphic checks out I might go with them. If not then I will go with K3 from Kleemann which covers ECU upgrade, a set headers with sport cats, and large trottle system. They throw filters in as well, but I don't think there will be much gain with filters. Should put me around 570 at crank.
3. Evo pulley
4. Just ordered some Rays VR G2s which should cut some serious weight off running OEM rims. Need to decide on some rubber, but shooting for 275 min on rear
5. CF hood arrives on Monday
6. CF front lip diffuser is already and ready for install.
7. CF roof spolier arrived Tuesday
8. RevoSport CF grill on order
9. EvoSport 2-Piece Rotors -back ordered
That would be it. I have already done most of the interior except for CF gauge cluster which I will be ordering from MaCarbon. That should be it for the time been. These things are money-pit!
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send me the PN#s of parts you want (can get them on their website) and I will get you price from local dealer. Taxes as I said before would be zero as I would be exporting the product. As far as duties, that would all depend on what the declared value of the system would be on commercial invoice when it is shipped.
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The two things I do not like about the Cargraphic system are:
1) The collector position before the final bend. They really aren't long tubes.
2) The collector size and mid-pipe size (diameter of only 2.75")
These facts are what ultimately swayed me to the MHP headers with their long/smooth collectors (after the final bend) and their 3.00" mid-pipes. I ordered my headers, mid-pipes and swappable cats on Friday!
1) The collector position before the final bend. They really aren't long tubes.
2) The collector size and mid-pipe size (diameter of only 2.75")
These facts are what ultimately swayed me to the MHP headers with their long/smooth collectors (after the final bend) and their 3.00" mid-pipes. I ordered my headers, mid-pipes and swappable cats on Friday!
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Harrower: Do you know if the headers will mate to the stock pipes (after cutting) without the use of these connecting pipes:
CARW204C63LP - Connecting pipe from header to X pipe **Removed secondary Cats** 18 90CZK inc. VAT = $976.98 - 20% = $781.58 retail
CARW204C63LP - Connecting pipe from header to X pipe **Removed secondary Cats** 18 90CZK inc. VAT = $976.98 - 20% = $781.58 retail
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The two things I do not like about the Cargraphic system are:
1) The collector position before the final bend. They really aren't long tubes.
2) The collector size and mid-pipe size (diameter of only 2.75")
These facts are what ultimately swayed me to the MHP headers with their long/smooth collectors (after the final bend) and their 3.00" mid-pipes. I ordered my headers, mid-pipes and swappable cats on Friday!
1) The collector position before the final bend. They really aren't long tubes.
2) The collector size and mid-pipe size (diameter of only 2.75")
These facts are what ultimately swayed me to the MHP headers with their long/smooth collectors (after the final bend) and their 3.00" mid-pipes. I ordered my headers, mid-pipes and swappable cats on Friday!
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Cargraphic lists the piping diameter throughout their whole exhaust as 70mm (2.75"). This data came directly from their site. Where did you get 3.00" from?
I would like to know what the primary tube sizes are. It's hard to tell if they are 1 3/4" or 1 7/8" by looking at the photo.
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A good comparison shot of the MHP long tubes from avengerboater . . .
Last edited by superlubricity; Aug 2, 2010 at 01:07 AM. Reason: added photo for comparison
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Let me find out for you and get back to you
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570 at the crank from a K3 package would equate to around 465rwhp. I don't think I've ever seen a Kleemann 63, or any car that didn't have longtubes vs manifolds make those numbers and I don't think anyone has ever tested their larger throttle bodys on their own either. Should prove interesting.
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And the primaries (is that what you call them) at the flange are bigger on the MHP, MBH, and EvoSport as well.
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In fact because We manufacture them ourselves. We can do a few custom things upon special request. (more on that later
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I have a request, what about RHD headers please!
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LIke I said, there are good choices out there in the world of headers but in the end the MBH headers won out for me ALL things considered...I appreciate them more every day. JMHO.
