08' C63, considering purchase
07-25-2017, 04:48 PM
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08' C63, considering purchase
Goos day.
i live in Norway and now its a C63 sedan amg for sale. This has the Black Series wide body kit also.
The whole ad is here: https://www.finn.no/83678206
its in Norwegian, but you will get the fact you need and pictures.
Anyone have any experience with this?
It was imported to Norway from US a couple of years ago and the engine has been changed once, but the car and engine has just rolled about 50km.
How is it to tune this engine?
Is it anything I should look for when I go to see/test drive it? The car is about 8 hours away, so I really want to check some experience before I go there.
and at what time is the normal first big service for this? With that I mean breaks etc. The expensive stuff.
hopefully some here can help me, its not alot of these in Norway, so it wasnt alot of help to get here..
i live in Norway and now its a C63 sedan amg for sale. This has the Black Series wide body kit also.
The whole ad is here: https://www.finn.no/83678206
its in Norwegian, but you will get the fact you need and pictures.
Anyone have any experience with this?
It was imported to Norway from US a couple of years ago and the engine has been changed once, but the car and engine has just rolled about 50km.
How is it to tune this engine?
Is it anything I should look for when I go to see/test drive it? The car is about 8 hours away, so I really want to check some experience before I go there.
and at what time is the normal first big service for this? With that I mean breaks etc. The expensive stuff.
hopefully some here can help me, its not alot of these in Norway, so it wasnt alot of help to get here..
07-25-2017, 05:21 PM
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Awesome looking car.
First question -- why was the engine changed? And when it was changed, was it swapped with a 2012+ engine? In other words, an engine where you won't need to do headbolts on? Or was it replaced with an 08-11 engine and therefore still requiring some headbolt attention down the road.
Edit: Valve covers look to be 08-11, so looks like it was replaced with an 08-11 engine. I'd ask whether headbolts were replaced.
First question -- why was the engine changed? And when it was changed, was it swapped with a 2012+ engine? In other words, an engine where you won't need to do headbolts on? Or was it replaced with an 08-11 engine and therefore still requiring some headbolt attention down the road.
Edit: Valve covers look to be 08-11, so looks like it was replaced with an 08-11 engine. I'd ask whether headbolts were replaced.
07-25-2017, 05:42 PM
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Awesome looking car.
First question -- why was the engine changed? And when it was changed, was it swapped with a 2012+ engine? In other words, an engine where you won't need to do headbolts on? Or was it replaced with an 08-11 engine and therefore still requiring some headbolt attention down the road.
Edit: Valve covers look to be 08-11, so looks like it was replaced with an 08-11 engine. I'd ask whether headbolts were replaced.
First question -- why was the engine changed? And when it was changed, was it swapped with a 2012+ engine? In other words, an engine where you won't need to do headbolts on? Or was it replaced with an 08-11 engine and therefore still requiring some headbolt attention down the road.
Edit: Valve covers look to be 08-11, so looks like it was replaced with an 08-11 engine. I'd ask whether headbolts were replaced.
engine was changed due to some failure with oil, engine just crashed. But I asked to get more info about that.
btw, the asking price is 699k NOK = $81000
it costs $250k new here. 🙊🙊
07-25-2017, 06:04 PM
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Awesome looking car.
First question -- why was the engine changed? And when it was changed, was it swapped with a 2012+ engine? In other words, an engine where you won't need to do headbolts on? Or was it replaced with an 08-11 engine and therefore still requiring some headbolt attention down the road.
Edit: Valve covers look to be 08-11, so looks like it was replaced with an 08-11 engine. I'd ask whether headbolts were replaced.
First question -- why was the engine changed? And when it was changed, was it swapped with a 2012+ engine? In other words, an engine where you won't need to do headbolts on? Or was it replaced with an 08-11 engine and therefore still requiring some headbolt attention down the road.
Edit: Valve covers look to be 08-11, so looks like it was replaced with an 08-11 engine. I'd ask whether headbolts were replaced.
07-25-2017, 06:16 PM
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C63 AMG, P30
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W16...4AAOSwH09ZNtTA
In America, about $3000 USD. Not sure how helpful that is to you.
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2007 Mercedes E63 AMG
156-050-02-25
Valve Lifters
$17.50
32
$560.00
156-016-07-69
Cylinder Head Bolt
$8.40
20
$168.00
just for those two parts. AMG3.2 has a headbolt thread listing all the parts needing to be replaced and what issues he ran into.
Valve Lifters
$17.50
32
$560.00
156-016-07-69
Cylinder Head Bolt
$8.40
20
$168.00
just for those two parts. AMG3.2 has a headbolt thread listing all the parts needing to be replaced and what issues he ran into.
07-25-2017, 06:25 PM
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It is. LedermanZ sells amazing steering wheels. He's actually making me one right now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W16...4AAOSwH09ZNtTA
In America, about $3000 USD. Not sure how helpful that is to you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W16...4AAOSwH09ZNtTA
In America, about $3000 USD. Not sure how helpful that is to you.
3k of parts and working hours in the us wil be about 9k here in norway. But I have a guy from Poland
07-25-2017, 06:27 PM
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2007 Mercedes E63 AMG
i had the worst oil leak possible...the o-ring for the oil thermostat for the oil cooler. the one behind the timing cover that by the book requires and engine out procedure. all other parts are completed as preventive maintenance. with everything i'm changing i should be good for another 100K+ miles. the annoying thing is already had my car down for 3 weeks for the oil cooler o-ring job, and lower oil pan. once those were fixed we found that other things were leaking oil. i essentially lost 1k in labor right there.
not sure if AMG ever updated that o-ring for factory engines, but if its anything like the oil cooler o-rings, they were hard as rocks and brittle. the oil cooler o-rings were updated to green o-rings vs factory black ones. original black o-rings shattered upon removal. they had no give to them. i have 117k miles and drive HARD almost everyday.
Color Image Most Common Compounds Global Compounds
Black o-ring_black Nitrile (Buna-N, NBR), Viton (FKM), EPDM, Neoprene (Chloroprene), HNBR (Hydrogenated Nitrile Butadiene Rubber) N70 | N90 | V75 | V90 | HNBR90
Green o-ring_green HSN/HNBR (Highly Saturated Nitrile or Hydrogenated Nitrile Butadiene Rubber) HSN70 Green
if the original o-rings were Viton, i could understand why AMG chose these for usage. their temperature range is far superior to Nitrile. if the replacement o-rings, that of which for the oil cooler were green, have a shorter range of temperature range, but does not look like they ever harden.
but honestly who knows. supposedly Viton can come in green and Nitrile can come in black.
not sure if AMG ever updated that o-ring for factory engines, but if its anything like the oil cooler o-rings, they were hard as rocks and brittle. the oil cooler o-rings were updated to green o-rings vs factory black ones. original black o-rings shattered upon removal. they had no give to them. i have 117k miles and drive HARD almost everyday.
Color Image Most Common Compounds Global Compounds
Black o-ring_black Nitrile (Buna-N, NBR), Viton (FKM), EPDM, Neoprene (Chloroprene), HNBR (Hydrogenated Nitrile Butadiene Rubber) N70 | N90 | V75 | V90 | HNBR90
Green o-ring_green HSN/HNBR (Highly Saturated Nitrile or Hydrogenated Nitrile Butadiene Rubber) HSN70 Green
if the original o-rings were Viton, i could understand why AMG chose these for usage. their temperature range is far superior to Nitrile. if the replacement o-rings, that of which for the oil cooler were green, have a shorter range of temperature range, but does not look like they ever harden.
but honestly who knows. supposedly Viton can come in green and Nitrile can come in black.
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07-25-2017, 11:17 PM
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Holy Hell! $88,000 US is the exchange rate I'm seeing. Are you sure you can't buy one here in the states and import it cheaper? You won't get the body kit but you can get one without the headbolt issue as a 2012 for half that.
07-26-2017, 01:28 AM
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2010 C300 4MATIC........ 2011 C63 AMG.............. 2015 CLS400 4MATIC.....
My cousins usually head to germany and buy a car there and import it to their respective countries (not USA, European countries). Its cheaper that way because cars sold in the country also have extreme markup. I cannot believe though that importing would cost you that much [doing it yourself] It doesn't make sense. You might be able to just register it to a different country lol.
07-26-2017, 06:59 AM
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My cousins usually head to germany and buy a car there and import it to their respective countries (not USA, European countries). Its cheaper that way because cars sold in the country also have extreme markup. I cannot believe though that importing would cost you that much [doing it yourself] It doesn't make sense. You might be able to just register it to a different country lol.
a friend was driving a swedish regged car for a while, he got caught. $30k dollars fine a loot his licence.
in the attached picture you can see the official calculator. First is tax pric, second is car price($33k us)
