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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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jcart, your next mod?

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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Not for me...I'm more of a road racer than a drag race. I am just about where I want to be HP wise. Maybe going to do some cams, head work and real ram air next winter. That thing looks heavy and bulky as hell, I'd like to know what it adds weight wise. An extra 100 plus pounds over the front wheels is never a good thing. If drag racing is your forte, then that looks like it's going to be the hot set-up for the future of the 63.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
That thing looks heavy and bulky as hell, I'd like to know what it adds weight wise. An extra 100 plus pounds over the front wheels is never a good thing.
I'd say anywhere from 30-35lbs at the most. Mine is about that and i believe it's the same for the 211 55's.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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I'd say anywhere from 30-35lbs at the most. Mine is about that and i believe it's the same for the 211 55's.
I don't know, I had a small Kenny Bell on a car and it was well over 35 pounds. I'll wait to see what comes of these, who knows, if I like what I see maybe I will do it, but doubtful. I'm not knocking it, I just don't think it is for me. Besides, I am already having traction issues, until I get it dialed in, in it's current state of tune, more HP would be silly.


Any word on if that thing is going to require a custom hood? Little or no clearence under the hood now, I'd say .625" or less.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Any word on if that thing is going to require a custom hood? Little or no clearence under the hood now, I'd say .625" or less.
I doubt it'll require a custom hood since what the goal is to have more power but retain the exterior MB look. Me personally i wouldn't want a hood bulging on my benz. Just doesn't look right.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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I doubt it'll require a custom hood since what the goal is to have more power but retain the exterior MB look. Me personally i wouldn't want a hood bulging on my benz. Just doesn't look right.
I don't see how they are going to fit it. It looks thicker than the stock manifold. I know for a fact that there is no room under the hood, both Evosport and I clayed it for clearence and i would say there is .50"-.625" max. If you remove the insulator pad it may buy you another .25".
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Don't know myself but it'd be quite interesting to see what the outcome is once the actual product is finished.
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Not for me...I'm more of a road racer than a drag race. I am just about where I want to be HP wise. Maybe going to do some cams, head work and real ram air next winter. That thing looks heavy and bulky as hell, I'd like to know what it adds weight wise. An extra 100 plus pounds over the front wheels is never a good thing. If drag racing is your forte, then that looks like it's going to be the hot set-up for the future of the 63.
jcart, how about this mod

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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Let me if I can clarify some issues:

1. Extra weight - between removing stock manifold and adding supercharger and it's supporting components, weight gain will be under 30 lbs.

2. Blower will clear the hood, as it sits inside engine valley. As we progress, I will post more pictures.

At 5 psi, on a stock engine, I expect 520-530 RWHP.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ VRP
Let me if I can clarify some issues:

1. Extra weight - between removing stock manifold and adding supercharger and it's supporting components, weight gain will be under 30 lbs.

2. Blower will clear the hood, as it sits inside engine valley. As we progress, I will post more pictures.

At 5 psi, on a stock engine, I expect 520-530 RWHP.
Not to add the extra drama, but A kenne bell blower, and the whole water to air intercooler system is going to add much more then 30lbs on top of stock. That is if it is going to be intercooled. The water alone is going to be about 20lbs. Its still going to be cool though. I've messed with my fair share of 03 cobras and Ford gt's and the whole assembly is over 100lbs, with everything.
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Isn't the 7 speed tranny very close to its limit torque wise? It's pretty cool to see a SC'd 63 car, but I'm not sure how long the tranny is going to last even at 5psi of boost, and if tranny upgrade is a must, I rather stick with N/A tune up. Let alone those heavy blowers from KB, I had to ditch the blower on my V8 Focus and go for twin turbos because of the weight and the extra omph up top and of course, them fine atmosphere dump wastegates. Leave the extra boost to the 55 cars, I would be more interested to see a E/CLS/S 55 with Kenny Bell's blower upgrade.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Isn't the 7 speed tranny very close to its limit torque wise? It's pretty cool to see a SC'd 63 car, but I'm not sure how long the tranny is going to last even at 5psi of boost, and if tranny upgrade is a must, I rather stick with N/A tune up. Let alone those heavy blowers from KB, I had to ditch the blower on my V8 Focus and go for twin turbos because of the weight and the extra omph up top and of course, them fine atmosphere dump wastegates. Leave the extra boost to the 55 cars, I would be more interested to see a E/CLS/S 55 with Kenny Bell's blower upgrade.
but but tbu the AMG blower looks nice!
might change my mind when i see how much more power one of these can add to a 55 though
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Isn't the 7 speed tranny very close to its limit torque wise? It's pretty cool to see a SC'd 63 car, but I'm not sure how long the tranny is going to last even at 5psi of boost, and if tranny upgrade is a must, I rather stick with N/A tune up. Let alone those heavy blowers from KB, I had to ditch the blower on my V8 Focus and go for twin turbos because of the weight and the extra omph up top and of course, them fine atmosphere dump wastegates. Leave the extra boost to the 55 cars, I would be more interested to see a E/CLS/S 55 with Kenny Bell's blower upgrade.
The 7-speed transmission is nowhere near its torque limits. There are many supercharged 550's and SLK55's with 550hp+ driving around, including my own
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