2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 (5.1) RETROFIT from NGT4








Hi there, I will try to flash my old NTG 5 2014 Unit this or next week, also for CLS, i have made carplay working but using 2018 X166 Head unit and Face plate from W218 (hybrid
) in general you need flash your Head Unit or change it to 2016+ and add USB socket that supports Mirroring. And thahts it




- 2016 '212 car has to visit a dealer for a up to $200 software upgrade of the COMAND head unit.
- send your VIN to Vladimir and he will confirm that you have installed the right stuff
- buy vlad's activator and follow the instructions
- android/carplay auto rox!
- 2016 '212 car has to visit a dealer for a up to $200 software upgrade of the COMAND head unit.
- send your VIN to Vladimir and he will confirm that you have installed the right stuff
- buy vlad's activator and follow the instructions
- android/carplay auto rox!
just bying any 2016+ NTG unit Thahts supports CarPlay and taking the face plate from ur NTG 5 unit that doesn't supports Carplay, total cost 150 For X166 Unit + Actiavation
Thanks
The Best of Mercedes & AMG




ummmmmmm. So, you have a 2016 car with the NTG 5 COMAND unit, and the dealer installed the latest software?
so what didn't work out? You don't need the engineering menu for anything.
Do you have Vladimir's CarPlay/AndroidAuto activator ? you shut the system off, plug that activator into your ODBC port, turn the system on, and it should go through a series of screens installing the CP/AA 'feature', the COMAND restarts a few times, when its done, remove the dongle, and plug a Iphone or android phone into USB 2, and follow my sequence here to enable it...
https://pierce.smugmug.com/Misc/Hu5s1-Android-Auto/
basically, with COMAND turned on, you need to tap the TEL button, then with the knob, tap it up, then select TEL/(globe), rotate the knob to either CarPlay or Android Auto, tap the knob to select that, and then plug your phone in to USB 2, and it should come up in AA or CarPlay accordingly, and then your phone 'takes over' the NAV, MEDIA, and TEL modes, and is controlled with the knob. once this is selected, next time you get in the car, just plug your phone in to USB 2, and voila, there you are.




Mine is 2015 April and yes with NTG 5 COMAND unit. At mercedes, making a more recent update and for me everything is the same ... I only paid an hour to update ... but the update took 3 or 4 hours ... I don't know what failed but I would like to know if you did any update to know if it is true as they say they did a real update or not .... I have no way of knowing if it was done or not, I just paid for an hour of updating ...
então o que não deu certo? Você não precisa do menu de engenharia para nada.
Nothing.
Você tem o ativador CarPlay / AndroidAuto de Vladimir? você desliga o sistema, conecta aquele ativador na sua porta ODBC, liga o sistema, e ele deve passar por uma série de telas instalando o 'recurso' CP / AA, o COMAND reinicia algumas vezes, ao terminar, remova o dongle e conecte um iPhone ou telefone Android em USB 2, e siga minha sequência aqui para habilitá-lo ...
https://pierce.smugmug.com/Misc/Hu5s1-Android-Auto/
basicamente, com o COMAND ativado, você precisa tocar no botão TEL, em seguida, tocar no botão para cima e selecionar TEL / (globo), girar o botão para CarPlay ou Android Auto, tocar no botão para selecionar isso e em seguida, conecte seu telefone em USB 2 e ele deve vir em AA ou CarPlay de acordo, e então seu telefone 'assume' os modos NAV, MEDIA e TEL e é controlado com o botão giratório. uma vez que este é selecionado, da próxima vez que você entrar no carro, basta conectar seu telefone para USB 2, e pronto, você está lá. [/ QUOTE]




My 2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 retrofit into my 2010 W207.
















So???
What 2016 parts was needed SO FAR to do this retrofit from NTG4 to 5s1:
1. Comand 5s1 big version with built in HD navi
2. Screen
3. Video cable to screen
4. Repinning of cables in sockets
5. LAN antenna
6. H/K Amp
7. Camera and cablekit
8. Screen frame
9. New joystick with 4 buttons
10. Pincode
11. Maps with activation code
I am experimenting alot with programming and activating of menues. I got the AMG logo to start it of. And alot else so far.
So ALL that works now but
only PROBLEMS so far:
Navigation dont get a speed signal. So maps stop moving when it loses satelites.
Media dont showup in cluster. All else show up and work. Radio,Navi.phone...
AMG dails, then middle big one dont work. Guess it is also speed signal issue.
Camera dont send video

My car is w212 facelift 2013. I have already retrofited ntg 4.0 to NTG 5.1 from GL 2016 head unit and HK Logic 7 Speakers.
This command head unit 5.1 was already activated Androi Auto& Carplay
Everything work fine except:
1. Media, music from SD card, USB not shown on the cluster. Radio, Bluetooth are OK
2. I changed several USB box, wire but I cant not start Carplay, the screen still show message as image below. ( The phone charge and Ipod function in both ports of usb worked OK)
So what's wrong with my car? ( software of headunit or the way making wire input signal to USB box?)
Pls help! Many tks you
USB BOX
Making wire input signal to USB box
Wire configuration to headunit
No Apple Carplay message
First of all, this NTG 5.1 head unit of GL 2016 that I bought sucessfully installed, activated & used Carplay in previous car ( same model with me, w212 2013)
When I took this head unit and installed on my car, I tested three other Usb box and Carplay not work, just a message on screen
Note that: when i plug Iphone into 2 ports of Usb:
phone charge OK, play music from iphone/usb storage OK, so I think it's not problem from Usb box
So Pin to usb got problem, or the Carplay need to be activated again whenever headunit was taken out to another car?
Please help me
many tks
Last edited by Duc Tran; May 5, 2021 at 11:04 AM.




I'm not ready of headunit firmware updated because I saw two other units after being updated..it died and stopped working
I have the W212 last model from November 2015, I've updated the comand ntg 5s1 high head unit to the newest firmware CY15_9 at mercedes. I've already activated my apple carplay/android auto. But I have 2 question, can anyone help me to activate the engine data menu with the torque/horse power dials.
I have vediamo and I've activated the analog instruments in vcd_car_functions but the menu doesn't turn on. @Chris The Swede maybe you know the reason?
Thanks in advance guys




I have the W212 last model from November 2015, I've updated the comand ntg 5s1 high head unit to the newest firmware CY15_9 at mercedes. I've already activated my apple carplay/android auto. But I have 2 question, can anyone help me to activate the engine data menu with the torque/horse power dials.
I have vediamo and I've activated the analog instruments in vcd_car_functions but the menu doesn't turn on. @Chris The Swede maybe you know the reason?
Thanks in advance guys
Last edited by amusa; May 12, 2021 at 05:21 AM.




the buzzword to get the dealer to update the flashware is to report you are having issues with reliable bluetooth connectivity, that sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't and there's no discernable pattern. Don't even mention CarPlay to Mercedes, they do not support that feature on this model year car. expect to pay up to an hours labor for the flashware upgrade.


