Left Coast Geek

heck, i had to update my 2016 w212 (build 2016-03-11).. my indie's scanner said I had the 9_15 version but vladimir said my car wasn't upgraded, and indeed, it did not work, til I took it to the dealer and paid them to upgrade it, THEN it worked, and it works great!.

Left Coast Geek

https://pierce.smugmug.com/Misc/Hu5s1-Android-Auto/

Vytautas Pocius

POWER CLS -------------....

Hi there, I will try to flash my old NTG 5 2014 Unit this or next week, also for CLS, i have made carplay working but using 2018 X166 Head unit and Face plate from W218 (hybrid ) in general you need flash your Head Unit or change it to 2016+ and add USB socket that supports Mirroring. And thahts it

Left Coast Geek

only the 2016 w212's have the new head unit that supports the flash upgrade we're talking about. read the whole thread to get the full story, but the short version is...

1. 2016 '212 car has to visit a dealer for a up to $200 software upgrade of the COMAND head unit.
2. send your VIN to Vladimir and he will confirm that you have installed the right stuff
3. buy vlad's activator and follow the instructions
4. android/carplay auto rox!

Vytautas Pocius

i dont think this wort the price just bying any 2016+ NTG unit Thahts supports CarPlay and taking the face plate from ur NTG 5 unit that doesn't supports Carplay, total cost 150 For X166 Unit + Actiavation

Left Coast Geek

I dunno, I like mods that don't involve any hardware. my car is on a CPO warranty for the next 3 years.

PowerCls

Sorry friends, I don't know HOW TO: Access Hidden Engineering Menu - Mercedes COMAND NTG5 and how to turn off Engineering Menu? .... Can someone make a video for me to better understand how to turn the menu on and off.

Thanks

PowerCls

can anyone help me?

PowerCls

Today, in the afternoon, I took my car to Mercedes to update the software and it didn't work out, or everything is the same as before ... dammm

Left Coast Geek

ummmmmmm. So, you have a 2016 car with the NTG 5 COMAND unit, and the dealer installed the latest software?

so what didn't work out? You don't need the engineering menu for anything.

Do you have Vladimir's CarPlay/AndroidAuto activator ? you shut the system off, plug that activator into your ODBC port, turn the system on, and it should go through a series of screens installing the CP/AA 'feature', the COMAND restarts a few times, when its done, remove the dongle, and plug a Iphone or android phone into USB 2, and follow my sequence here to enable it...
https://pierce.smugmug.com/Misc/Hu5s1-Android-Auto/

basically, with COMAND turned on, you need to tap the TEL button, then with the knob, tap it up, then select TEL/(globe), rotate the knob to either CarPlay or Android Auto, tap the knob to select that, and then plug your phone in to USB 2, and it should come up in AA or CarPlay accordingly, and then your phone 'takes over' the NAV, MEDIA, and TEL modes, and is controlled with the knob. once this is selected, next time you get in the car, just plug your phone in to USB 2, and voila, there you are.

Chris The Swede

Might not be corect 5s1 comand for car play..

PowerCls

[QUOTE = Left Coast Geek; 8293813] ummmmmmm. Então, você tem um carro 2016 com a unidade NTG 5 COMAND e o revendedor instalou o software mais recente?

Mine is 2015 April and yes with NTG 5 COMAND unit. At mercedes, making a more recent update and for me everything is the same ... I only paid an hour to update ... but the update took 3 or 4 hours ... I don't know what failed but I would like to know if you did any update to know if it is true as they say they did a real update or not .... I have no way of knowing if it was done or not, I just paid for an hour of updating ...



então o que não deu certo? Você não precisa do menu de engenharia para nada.
Nothing.

Você tem o ativador CarPlay / AndroidAuto de Vladimir? você desliga o sistema, conecta aquele ativador na sua porta ODBC, liga o sistema, e ele deve passar por uma série de telas instalando o 'recurso' CP / AA, o COMAND reinicia algumas vezes, ao terminar, remova o dongle e conecte um iPhone ou telefone Android em USB 2, e siga minha sequência aqui para habilitá-lo ...
https://pierce.smugmug.com/Misc/Hu5s1-Android-Auto/

basicamente, com o COMAND ativado, você precisa tocar no botão TEL, em seguida, tocar no botão para cima e selecionar TEL / (globo), girar o botão para CarPlay ou Android Auto, tocar no botão para selecionar isso e em seguida, conecte seu telefone em USB 2 e ele deve vir em AA ou CarPlay de acordo, e então seu telefone 'assume' os modos NAV, MEDIA e TEL e é controlado com o botão giratório. uma vez que este é selecionado, da próxima vez que você entrar no carro, basta conectar seu telefone para USB 2, e pronto, você está lá. [/ QUOTE]

PowerCls

Yes, but I don't know what to do anymore ... ahh I forgot to tell me ... the Mercedes technician spoke with the engineer said that through the chassis of my car that it was not possible, that is, even with a recent update it would work .... I was pissed.

Left Coast Geek

The 2016 NTG5, you need to get the latest firmware from Mercedes, and then you need an activator to turn on the feature codes which Mercedes won't do because they were not features on our model car, but they work. This enables car play / Android auto and there are other feature codes

PowerCls

You can see here how I paid ...

Duc Tran

Hi Mr Chris

My car is w212 facelift 2013. I have already retrofited ntg 4.0 to NTG 5.1 from GL 2016 head unit and HK Logic 7 Speakers.
This command head unit 5.1 was already activated Androi Auto& Carplay
Everything work fine except:

1. Media, music from SD card, USB not shown on the cluster. Radio, Bluetooth are OK

2. I changed several USB box, wire but I cant not start Carplay, the screen still show message as image below. ( The phone charge and Ipod function in both ports of usb worked OK)

So what's wrong with my car? ( software of headunit or the way making wire input signal to USB box?)
Pls help! Many tks you



USB BOX

Making wire input signal to USB box

Wire configuration to headunit

No Apple Carplay message

Chris The Swede

Carplay must be activated by Mercedes and added to Vedoc. And it must be corect USB box.

Duc Tran

Hi Mr Chris

First of all, this NTG 5.1 head unit of GL 2016 that I bought sucessfully installed, activated & used Carplay in previous car ( same model with me, w212 2013)

When I took this head unit and installed on my car, I tested three other Usb box and Carplay not work, just a message on screen

Note that: when i plug Iphone into 2 ports of Usb:
phone charge OK, play music from iphone/usb storage OK, so I think it's not problem from Usb box

​​So Pin to usb got problem, or the Carplay need to be activated again whenever headunit was taken out to another car?
Please help me
many tks

Left Coast Geek

I did not need to change the USB ports on my 2016 E350 to enable carplay/androidauto, I just had to get the units flashware updated AND used a 3rd party 'activator' to turn the feature on (since a 2016 E did not ship with it). the USB port that has the picture of the phone is otherwise identical to the ones that don't have the phone ircon on USB2

Duc Tran

W212 2013 must replace USB box

I'm not ready of headunit firmware updated because I saw two other units after being updated..it died and stopped working

fluxx0r

Hello guys,

I have the W212 last model from November 2015, I've updated the comand ntg 5s1 high head unit to the newest firmware CY15_9 at mercedes. I've already activated my apple carplay/android auto. But I have 2 question, can anyone help me to activate the engine data menu with the torque/horse power dials.

I have vediamo and I've activated the analog instruments in vcd_car_functions but the menu doesn't turn on. @Chris The Swede maybe you know the reason?

Thanks in advance guys

Chris The Swede

Will never work unless you replace ALOT of parts in engineroom.

amusa

Sorry I'm in the same boat. MB would not update the firmware to enable Apple CarPlay. I have tried. My vehicle is equipped with option 531 Command APS NTG5 / NTG5.5 and I already have the Navi map already updated to V14 2020/2021. My vehicle release date was 10/28/2015 but it's a 2016 W166. I just picked up a MB C5 SD. Can I enable it through the C5 and where do I go to enable Apple CarPlay on the C5?

Left Coast Geek

you need 1) ensure the 'flashware' (firmware) is the latest, *AND* 2) install an 'activator' from a 3rd party such as Vladimir on ebay. the activator won't work without the latest flashware. if you forward your VIN to vladimir he can tell you if you have the correct firmware, there's 3 separate modules that need to be flashed, on my late production MY 2016, only 1 was correct, the other two still needed updates.

the buzzword to get the dealer to update the flashware is to report you are having issues with reliable bluetooth connectivity, that sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't and there's no discernable pattern. Don't even mention CarPlay to Mercedes, they do not support that feature on this model year car. expect to pay up to an hours labor for the flashware upgrade.

amusa

Why can't I download and update the firmware from here https://www.mercedes-benz-mobile.com...6-03:2017-08/?