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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 01:59 PM
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hey hopefully you can help but i have a 2012 cls63 with ntg 4.0 i would like to install 5.0 with the e class lcd not the w218 lcd

i have a backup camera and nightvision camera..

1. Comand 5s1 big version with built in HD navi - ok
2. Screen - ok
3. Video cable to screen - ok
4. Repinning of cables in sockets - can you provide more info?
5. LAN antenna - what is this?
6. H/K Amp - my car already has premium sound do i still need new amp?
7. Camera and cablekit - would i need new camera?
8. Screen frame - ok
9. New joystick with 4 buttons - the 2015 cls63 uses same controller with 2 buttons that i have would i still need a new one?
10. Pincode
11. Maps with activation code


thank you alot
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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 04:30 PM
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2 Must be 2016 screen. I Have an extra.
3 Must be a 2016 cable. I Have an extra.
4 Of course
5 For in car hot spot. I Have an extra.
6 Yes you do, Need 2016 amp plus CLS have the sub amp to I think! I Have extras.
7 Oh yes. 2016 Camera and all new cable kit from front to back. I Have an extra.
9 You need a new 2016 one. I Have an 4 button extra.
10 That is no problem. Just need pic of label ontop of comand.
11 No problem. That I can arrange for you.
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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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2 Must be 2016 screen. I Have an extra.
3 Must be a 2016 cable. I Have an extra.
4 Of course
5 For in car hot spot. I Have an extra.
6 Yes you do, Need 2016 amp plus CLS have the sub amp to I think! I Have extras.
7 Oh yes. 2016 Camera and all new cable kit from front to back. I Have an extra.
9 You need a new 2016 one. I Have an 4 button extra.
10 That is no problem. Just need pic of label ontop of comand.
11 No problem. That I can arrange for you.
do you have skype or any messanger so we can talk about pricing,
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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 04:47 PM
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 02:43 AM
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Sorry to ask, but can't a larger 8 inch screen be retrofitted somehow and a new bezel custom molded to house it? Or would that be too difficult?
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 03:43 AM
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For the old comand? There is no video cable that work between old and new.
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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I mean for the newer comand. Might as well upgrade to the 8.4 screen if it is available. 7 inch screens are a bit dated now.
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 02:29 AM
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An example of a successful installation of the comand system with NTG5S1 for w212 2009
http://www.benzclub.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=339723
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 05:30 AM
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An example of a successful installation of the comand system with NTG5S1 for w212 2009
http://www.benzclub.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=339723
You have NO CLUE if navigation works on that install. All works on mine as well expet speed signal for navi...

Installs without navi are no problem. You can like they have use carplay for navi then your set...
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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My Car MY2011 E350 Coupe,
already update to COMAND NTG 4.5 Gen3 (NTG 4.7)

Now, I am interesting in updating to COMAND NTG 5.1
and I have change my original ESP to newer ESP in 2014

part number: A 218 900 39 04
code: -233+804

Is it possible work all fine, when I retrofit the NTG 5.1?
thanks for your response.




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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 09:29 AM
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Once and for all. It is 5s1. Not 5.1.

How did you make a newer ESP work in an older car?

Dont worry...This will work in ALL cars and model years...I have a SIMPLE solution now.

In my car I upgraded to a new SAM unit for the headlight upgrade wich includes the CGW unit and it is THAT one that dont speak to my old ESP. So as long as you have your original units in your car ALL WILL WORK just FINE!!

So to all!!!!!!

ALL WORKs FINE! Just go for it...If you want the best their is.

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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 09:32 AM
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And for you guys that have like me installed a NEW SAM in a old car. I also now have a conveter made so it also works on them.
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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Hi Chris,
I'm so curious how you manage the AMG start up logo in the NTG5.1
This is what I wanted for a long time :-)
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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 04:44 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2016 | 07:32 AM
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I have NOW tried the 5s1 comand with my OLD sam unit and then ALL works like it should.

So all solved now... I also have a converter now wich also inc VIM for those that have a new SAM.
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Great Jobs Chris

this is NTG5s1 on my w204 😍

















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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 10:24 AM
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Nice!

Has anybody confirmed whether this will work on a W204 Pre Facelift? With the flip-up screen?

I'm willing to buy it to try if somebody can give me the information on it, and the required parts.
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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How will you do the front facia to fit the W204??
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 10:07 PM
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This is some incredible stuff guys! I recently purchased a used 2012 A207. It had low mileage and i am loving it to death but THIS! this is one upgrade I need to do. Great work Chris! amazing
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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 03:43 AM
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OK..Thanx..Let me know if you need anything. Have ALOT for of facelift duplicates for sale..
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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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Absolutely amazing ingenuity. I'm incredibly impressed!

The fit (or lack thereof) needs to be optimized before I'm ready to take the plunge...
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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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OK..Thanx..Let me know if you need anything. Have ALOT for of facelift duplicates for sale..
I am interested. I sent you a PM but if you can let me know the parts you have and the price, I'll look it over and take em off your hands
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Old Jan 24, 2017 | 06:57 PM
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Exclamation Help with 5s1 camera activation W246 2013

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Hello, Chris

Could you please find some of your precious time to help me with the following problem:

After installing, coding 5s1 unit along with new camera and wiring for 5s1
a message keep pooping up that camera is not found and after a second video from camera turns to black screen. You mentioned before that you solved camera problem could you please share your knowledge on this. I am an owner of W246 2013 car and not a commercial installer but in all ways qualified installer who is working with my car for more than a month now is stuck with the same problem you had claiming that the unit maybe faulty.

Please help.
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