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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 04:02 PM
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cls 350cdi w218
Originally Posted by Left Coast Geek
this is an english forum, but if I run google translate,


it seems like you're asking about CLS (W218 stuff), this is the E class, W212, section of this web forum.

crap,yeah now i saw that lol, looks same as 218
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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 04:16 PM
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fwiw, across the 6-7 years of W212 production, there were like 3-4 different COMAND systems and I don't believe they are easily swapped/upgraded as they integrate with multiple car systems which also underwent incremental updates. The Harman Logic7 stuff uses a fiber optic MOST bus from the head unit to the amplifier, this amplifier is preprogrammed for the car interior equalization and the set of speakers in said car.
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Old Jan 21, 2024 | 06:11 AM
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simanonisz Hi there, The navi unit in general is the same, only the face plate is different fits from w212 facelift and w218, the screen from w166/x166 would work but wount fit (tested couple of screens on my own cls just to know are they working)
yes you will need an amp from FL
rear camera,
control button
new wood trim around control button
Cable from rear camera to navi unit
cut of part of the pin connector for the screen power and add one cable from navi unit to screen cable pin (su tapetiniu peiliuku fyske krasteli nupjaut )
And then lots of coding navi unit must be coded rear view camera unit and so on...

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Old Jun 24, 2024 | 03:37 AM
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Bom dia PowerCLs,
Eu sou novo aqui e tenho algumas questões.
será que me podias ajudar?!?!..
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Old Aug 10, 2024 | 06:08 PM
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Hello All,

I'm revisiting the thread since I first watched it in 2017.

I have a 2013 facelift W207 E500 with the NTG4.7.
What do I need to upgrade the comand sytem to NTG5S1 ?

Thanks for the help
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Old Dec 9, 2025 | 03:28 PM
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hello. I have a w204 with ntg4, is there an option to retrofit it with ntg5s1 or 5.1 today?
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Old Dec 9, 2025 | 06:49 PM
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Are the 5s1 units better than 5.1 ?
They've got support for the old Android Auto
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 08:47 AM
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5.1 is the generic name of the 5s1.

5s1/5.1 Comand is always compatible with CP and AA and the Audio20 5s1/5.1 is compatible as well, except some HW's.

5s1 can be installed on w204 with a CAN Bridge and some 3D printed grille.
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Hi,
Following my recent purchase of the 2016 W212 E350, this thread learned me I was lucky enough with the NTG5.1.
After confirming I add the Carplay volume setting in the engineering menu, I had to choose between 3 options:
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