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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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Sagging sunvisors - 2014 E300

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The sunvisors have started to sag on my '14 E300. It started with the drivers side first since it's used a lot more, but now the passenger side one has also started to sag.

Not a huge deal, but kind of annoying that they both refuse to 'clip' back into place when you push them up.

Do both sunvisors need to be replaced or is there something I can do to tighten them and make them stop sagging? I checked part numbers on EPC and new ones are ridiculously expensive.

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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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"ridiculously expensive" is the word!

Last time I priced those parts, I recall they were around $700 Ea.
I've been treating my visor with all due respect ever since

It does not look like a serviceable part... you gonna have to slice it with a blade and use epoxy to reattach the innards
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 03:19 PM
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I have this issue on my DS only. However, if I push it up and hold for a few seconds, it will stay up all the way.
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Old Jan 28, 2022 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Last time I priced those parts, I recall they were around $700 Ea.
I've been treating my visor with all due respect ever since

It does not look like a serviceable part... you gonna have to slice it with a blade and use epoxy to reattach the innards
Would I be able to remove the visors from a donor car and install them on mine? Would definitely beat paying for brand new parts.

Also, any idea where I can get a guide on how to replace them? I hope removal of the headliner is not required.

Originally Posted by kjb55
I have this issue on my DS only. However, if I push it up and hold for a few seconds, it will stay up all the way.
Tried that today, unfortunately did not work. Stayed up there for a few seconds before slowly dropping back down to the same position you see in the photos.
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Old Jan 28, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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Sometime I have to push mine up hard and when I hear a click, it's secured.
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Old Jan 28, 2022 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MeltdownSpectre
Would I be able to remove the visors from a donor car and install them on mine? Would definitely beat paying for brand new parts.

Also, any idea where I can get a guide on how to replace them? I hope removal of the headliner is not required.



Tried that today, unfortunately did not work. Stayed up there for a few seconds before slowly dropping back down to the same position you see in the photos.
My experience with this is dated and on a '93 S500, but the plug for the mirror light was behind the mounting bracket and was an easy change out.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 01:57 AM
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I am out of country, meaning no PC access, so no photo database.
However, I recalled doing the roof liner removal to tighten my dumb-azz pano roof frames.... I had to remove BOTH sun-visors and broke the parts below:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cec841eb96.jpg


Original post is here on the pano :
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...very-much.html

Let's call this broken part as a C-Clip, it does offer friction , so it can prevent sagging on sun-visor. I broke mine when removing it. LOL
The other attachment of sun visor to car roof is the "rod" of the sun-visor , I recalled it has o-ring...yes rubber o-ring.
I forgot the o-ring is at which part of the L rod, the spin-left-right function or the up-down function.

I honestly can't remember a 100% how my sun-visor looks like , but I believed it has a smaller blade/2nd-visor too for driver side, like below unit :
https://www.ebay.com/p/525391506

If you slowly inspect , how the sun-visor really works in terms of friction generating areas, you can correct your "sagging" problem.
It is all in the friction, the lack of friction for your case.

Good luck

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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 02:42 PM
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My driver's side visor has done that since nearly new. I even had the visor replaced one time under warranty, and soon it began to sag again.

Currently the "fix" is to jab the forward edge of the visor (where the mounting rod is through it) a couple of times when parking the visor. It eventually grips enough to not sag or flop around. I'm sure this will eventually fail, at which time I will have to decide what to do with it.

Lousy design, I'm sure.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveE400
My driver's side visor has done that since nearly new. I even had the visor replaced one time under warranty, and soon it began to sag again.

Currently the "fix" is to jab the forward edge of the visor (where the mounting rod is through it) a couple of times when parking the visor. It eventually grips enough to not sag or flop around. I'm sure this will eventually fail, at which time I will have to decide what to do with it.

Lousy design, I'm sure.
My 2016 visors have sagged like this since I acquired the car in 2018. The other MB is not any better. I hang a supplemental driver's visor and my radar detector on the driver's side visor... It hasn't slumped more because of it.

Soooooo... I consider it "normal" and hardly worth fiddling with.

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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 04:54 PM
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This has happened on every MB that I have had:
1. 1960 MB 190c
2. 1987 MB 300D
3. 2016 MB E350 (just starting)

I used to replace them on the first two cars but the price back then was not so steep.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 05:04 PM
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Is this more of an issue on the facelift? My ‘13 both work perfectly (as I knock on wood lol). Never had an issue on my 201 or 124

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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 05:15 PM
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I cannot answer this question because I have only had one W212. It is six years old and they are just a tad saggy. On the 87 W124, they were sagging more at 5 years and I eventually had to replace each twice. I stopped when the price got up there-but not to the level of the W212 shades.
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveE400
My driver's side visor has done that since nearly new. I even had the visor replaced one time under warranty, and soon it began to sag again.

Currently the "fix" is to jab the forward edge of the visor (where the mounting rod is through it) a couple of times when parking the visor. It eventually grips enough to not sag or flop around. I'm sure this will eventually fail, at which time I will have to decide what to do with it.

Lousy design, I'm sure.
Cheers, will try this out today. If it doesn't work, I'll just have to live with it I suppose. Can't justify spending $400+ on sunvisors.

Originally Posted by badbenz94
Is this more of an issue on the facelift? My ‘13 both work perfectly (as I knock on wood lol). Never had an issue on my 201 or 124

Chris
I didn't find much about sagging sunvisors on W212s when I was searching for other threads, but the ones that I did find all seem to be the facelifted model. Even others posting their experiences in this thread are 2014+ MY cars.

Our pre-facelift '13 is also completely fine which is what baffles me. Why would MB change something as trivial as a sunvisor in a facelift?
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MeltdownSpectre
Cheers, will try this out today. If it doesn't work, I'll just have to live with it I suppose. Can't justify spending $400+ on sunvisors.



I didn't find much about sagging sunvisors on W212s when I was searching for other threads, but the ones that I did find all seem to be the facelifted model. Even others posting their experiences in this thread are 2014+ MY cars.

Our pre-facelift '13 is also completely fine which is what baffles me. Why would MB change something as trivial as a sunvisor in a facelift?
$$$$$$$$$$ Part of the facelift upgrade? Interesting, I never had this issue on the last 11 cars nor the ones I have now, my wife uses the drivers side daily, or Mon-Fri anyway.
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 04:43 PM
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Velcro or Magnets ?
The magnets are a brilliant fix! 👏

1 - Insert the tiny neodymium piece between the metal roof and headliner
2 - Insert the flat metalic part inside sunvisor flap.



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Originally Posted by MeltdownSpectre
Cheers, will try this out today. If it doesn't work, I'll just have to live with it I suppose. Can't justify spending $400+ on sunvisors.



I didn't find much about sagging sunvisors on W212s when I was searching for other threads, but the ones that I did find all seem to be the facelifted model. Even others posting their experiences in this thread are 2014+ MY cars.

Our pre-facelift '13 is also completely fine which is what baffles me. Why would MB change something as trivial as a sunvisor in a facelift?
Maybe get 2010-2013 visors? I don't have that issue with mine either,
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The "Fonz fix" for the saggy visor

After the annoying issue arose in my 2016 E350 Sport Wagon and being told by the dealer the extended warrantee would not cover "cosmetic" issues a fix had to be somewhere out there. My initial plan was a velcro dot on the trailing edge of the driver's side visor and the other piece on the roof liner; however, being patient and tolerating the 1/2 inch sag which was a "safety issue" to me this is what finally resolved the issue. A week ago traveling west into the sun at 6 PM on Shea Blvd headed for the MIM in Scottsdale, AZ. and having to make the visor dance to keep from being blinded, a swift "Fonzy punch" to the leading edge popped the damn thing back into place tightly against the roof!
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Originally Posted by Waldoman
After the annoying issue arose in my 2016 E350 Sport Wagon and being told by the dealer the extended warrantee would not cover "cosmetic" issues a fix had to be somewhere out there. My initial plan was a velcro dot on the trailing edge of the driver's side visor and the other piece on the roof liner; however, being patient and tolerating the 1/2 inch sag which was a "safety issue" to me this is what finally resolved the issue. A week ago traveling west into the sun at 6 PM on Shea Blvd headed for the MIM in Scottsdale, AZ. and having to make the visor dance to keep from being blinded, a swift "Fonzy punch" to the leading edge popped the damn thing back into place tightly against the roof!
Having replaced and entire headliner on my other MB (due to it falling and sagging), I would NOT use velcro on the headliner. The fabric is barely held in place as it is, and you don't want to pull the fabric free just to fix this minor annoyance.
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I find that the driver's side visor on my 2015 W212 often sags a bit. The dealer even replaced the visor under warranty, but the new one now sags.

The solution that seems to work for me is that I clip the visor into the "retainer" clip and fold it up normally. If it sags/droops, I push the visor from side to side on its pivot rod, while it is clipped into place. So far, every time I do this, the visor hugs the headliner.

Hope it stays that way. I can live with this. . .
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Old Aug 31, 2022 | 10:03 PM
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Thank you DFW for the heads up on the velcro, I'll save it for a hairpiece to hold a toupee on my bald head! The old "Fonzy" punch does good enough for me. Have a great evening.

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Maybe the sun visor plastic hook is tired after many years of use. Try finding some flat rubber tape (not too thick), stick it in the sunvisor hook and see if the little extra space the tape takes up holds it in place
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Maybe the sun visor plastic hook is tired after many years of use. Try finding some flat rubber tape (not too thick), stick it in the sunvisor hook and see if the little extra space the tape takes up holds it in place
Excellent idea. Worth a try that I wager will work...
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Zynthe's post has me thinking...

If you have a child who wears braces, you could wrap a couple of those tiny rubber tensioning bands around the visor post where it fits in the hook?
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Zynthe's post has me thinking...

If you have a child who wears braces, you could wrap a couple of those tiny rubber tensioning bands around the visor post where it fits in the hook?
We're old! I don't think they use metal braces anymore! all the kids I see have clear liners or those new plastic contraptions!
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