MB suspending sales of 2022 AMG V8 models
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Looks like it is around 120-70 G wagons a month (so roughly 1200 a year): https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2021-c...sales-figures/
Again I am sure some 'very honest dealer' gave someone the inside scoop about how there are only 80 per year and therefore the mark up they are charging on the 2019 is 'fair'.
Again I am sure some 'very honest dealer' gave someone the inside scoop about how there are only 80 per year and therefore the mark up they are charging on the 2019 is 'fair'.
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Looks like it is around 120-70 G wagons a month (so roughly 1200 a year): https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2021-c...sales-figures/
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Loaded , exhaust…. Just no carbon. I’ve been on a waitlist for the 73…. But with those prices I ended up with an Escalade for a daily. Spending 300k for a MB Is hard when Bentley , Lamborghini and even rolls isn’t far off
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'19 G63 Ed 1,'18 M5, '16 G63,'12 458 , '11 E63, Brabus SL55-K8, '10 S63, '94 E500 "Wolf", '91 560SEC
my urus only cost a little more then that … fully
Loaded , exhaust…. Just no carbon. I’ve been on a waitlist for the 73…. But with those prices I ended up with an Escalade for a daily. Spending 300k for a MB Is hard when Bentley , Lamborghini and even rolls isn’t far off
Loaded , exhaust…. Just no carbon. I’ve been on a waitlist for the 73…. But with those prices I ended up with an Escalade for a daily. Spending 300k for a MB Is hard when Bentley , Lamborghini and even rolls isn’t far off
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my urus only cost a little more then that … fully
Loaded , exhaust…. Just no carbon. I’ve been on a waitlist for the 73…. But with those prices I ended up with an Escalade for a daily. Spending 300k for a MB Is hard when Bentley , Lamborghini and even rolls isn’t far off
Loaded , exhaust…. Just no carbon. I’ve been on a waitlist for the 73…. But with those prices I ended up with an Escalade for a daily. Spending 300k for a MB Is hard when Bentley , Lamborghini and even rolls isn’t far off
I'm SO glad I did... I've driven the Urus and the Cullinan and I would choose the G63 each time over and over again. It's a completely different animal. The presence is unmatched. The feeling you get driving this machine is unmatched. The Cullinan does drive much smoother, but I can't get over the looks of the car. Doesn't sit well with me. Urus looks decent but beside the G63, it's like a little brother. To each their own, but G63 is my new favourite truck.
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Resale value
RR, Lambo, snd Bentley dealers want to sell at MSRP but resale value drops so much.
G is the the only car which sells at MSRP or higher now. RR is notorious for losing value but I think that people who can afford spending 400 to 500k on a car wouldn't mind losing 40% of its value.
G is the the only car which sells at MSRP or higher now. RR is notorious for losing value but I think that people who can afford spending 400 to 500k on a car wouldn't mind losing 40% of its value.
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RR, Lambo, snd Bentley dealers want to sell at MSRP but resale value drops so much.
G is the the only car which sells at MSRP or higher now. RR is notorious for losing value but I think that people who can afford spending 400 to 500k on a car wouldn't mind losing 40% of its value.
G is the the only car which sells at MSRP or higher now. RR is notorious for losing value but I think that people who can afford spending 400 to 500k on a car wouldn't mind losing 40% of its value.
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I've noticed that too but all the ones I've seen have had like 1000 miles or less on them usually. I'd like to see what a Urus would cost that has 25,000 miles on it.
2019 G63's with 25,000 miles on them are still listed above MSRP.
2019 G63's with 25,000 miles on them are still listed above MSRP.
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Escalade is a great daily… no complaints in the sport platinum…and we needed 1 vehicle for its size.
I love my urus but only drive it really on weekends…unfortunately I really can’t bring it to my office. allows me to take my wife and daughter with me. I love the urus because when in corsa mode it becomes another vehicle or strada where it’s calm. You can customize it to make it pretty luxurious.. Right now most urus are above msrp as Lamborghini announced its a 12-18 month wait to build it. Lamborghini forums have been blowing up about that.
the RR had a really nice interior but I couldn’t like the outside looks either.
I would love a g wagon. I’ve been on the waitlist for a 73 or 63s E what ever it’s called. Now with everything going on who knows how long this will wind up being.
Honestly the G and urus are two completely different suvs. Really not meant to be cross shopped. I love the rugged look of the G especially in a matte paint
my dad has the new bentayga speed and absolutely loves it.
I love my urus but only drive it really on weekends…unfortunately I really can’t bring it to my office. allows me to take my wife and daughter with me. I love the urus because when in corsa mode it becomes another vehicle or strada where it’s calm. You can customize it to make it pretty luxurious.. Right now most urus are above msrp as Lamborghini announced its a 12-18 month wait to build it. Lamborghini forums have been blowing up about that.
the RR had a really nice interior but I couldn’t like the outside looks either.
I would love a g wagon. I’ve been on the waitlist for a 73 or 63s E what ever it’s called. Now with everything going on who knows how long this will wind up being.
Honestly the G and urus are two completely different suvs. Really not meant to be cross shopped. I love the rugged look of the G especially in a matte paint
my dad has the new bentayga speed and absolutely loves it.
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'19 G63 Ed 1,'18 M5, '16 G63,'12 458 , '11 E63, Brabus SL55-K8, '10 S63, '94 E500 "Wolf", '91 560SEC
One came thru auction last month with 49k miles brought in $216k. I'd say Urus values are holding steady for now. Will be interesting what happens to G63. I predict the V8 will resume production with or without the EV crap at that time it may get the MBUX and then we see the bubble pop. Same with Urus when the Urus Evo is released.
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'19 G63 Ed 1,'18 M5, '16 G63,'12 458 , '11 E63, Brabus SL55-K8, '10 S63, '94 E500 "Wolf", '91 560SEC
Escalade is a great daily… no complaints in the sport platinum…and we needed 1 vehicle for its size.
I love my urus but only drive it really on weekends…unfortunately I really can’t bring it to my office. allows me to take my wife and daughter with me. I love the urus because when in corsa mode it becomes another vehicle or strada where it’s calm. You can customize it to make it pretty luxurious.. Right now most urus are above msrp as Lamborghini announced its a 12-18 month wait to build it. Lamborghini forums have been blowing up about that.
the RR had a really nice interior but I couldn’t like the outside looks either.
I would love a g wagon. I’ve been on the waitlist for a 73 or 63s E what ever it’s called. Now with everything going on who knows how long this will wind up being.
Honestly the G and urus are two completely different suvs. Really not meant to be cross shopped. I love the rugged look of the G especially in a matte paint
my dad has the new bentayga speed and absolutely loves it.
I love my urus but only drive it really on weekends…unfortunately I really can’t bring it to my office. allows me to take my wife and daughter with me. I love the urus because when in corsa mode it becomes another vehicle or strada where it’s calm. You can customize it to make it pretty luxurious.. Right now most urus are above msrp as Lamborghini announced its a 12-18 month wait to build it. Lamborghini forums have been blowing up about that.
the RR had a really nice interior but I couldn’t like the outside looks either.
I would love a g wagon. I’ve been on the waitlist for a 73 or 63s E what ever it’s called. Now with everything going on who knows how long this will wind up being.
Honestly the G and urus are two completely different suvs. Really not meant to be cross shopped. I love the rugged look of the G especially in a matte paint
my dad has the new bentayga speed and absolutely loves it.
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G63s and a few others
Escalade is a great daily… no complaints in the sport platinum…and we needed 1 vehicle for its size.
I love my urus but only drive it really on weekends…unfortunately I really can’t bring it to my office. allows me to take my wife and daughter with me. I love the urus because when in corsa mode it becomes another vehicle or strada where it’s calm. You can customize it to make it pretty luxurious.. Right now most urus are above msrp as Lamborghini announced its a 12-18 month wait to build it. Lamborghini forums have been blowing up about that.
the RR had a really nice interior but I couldn’t like the outside looks either.
I would love a g wagon. I’ve been on the waitlist for a 73 or 63s E what ever it’s called. Now with everything going on who knows how long this will wind up being.
Honestly the G and urus are two completely different suvs. Really not meant to be cross shopped. I love the rugged look of the G especially in a matte paint
my dad has the new bentayga speed and absolutely loves it.
I love my urus but only drive it really on weekends…unfortunately I really can’t bring it to my office. allows me to take my wife and daughter with me. I love the urus because when in corsa mode it becomes another vehicle or strada where it’s calm. You can customize it to make it pretty luxurious.. Right now most urus are above msrp as Lamborghini announced its a 12-18 month wait to build it. Lamborghini forums have been blowing up about that.
the RR had a really nice interior but I couldn’t like the outside looks either.
I would love a g wagon. I’ve been on the waitlist for a 73 or 63s E what ever it’s called. Now with everything going on who knows how long this will wind up being.
Honestly the G and urus are two completely different suvs. Really not meant to be cross shopped. I love the rugged look of the G especially in a matte paint
my dad has the new bentayga speed and absolutely loves it.
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Yes, it is amazing what GM is able to deliver for $130k or so. The 6.2 has its own personality. Not sure if you have peeked under the car, the engineering and build quality is quite impressive. The cooled seats are the best in the business and the 36 speaker AKG sound system makes daily duties very enjoyable.
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My office garage is pretty tight with massive yellow poles. I’m not afraid of me hitting them it’s other people hitting me.
second thing is my staff. Some people get weird with jealousy things and I rather not go down that road with coworkers. If it wasn’t coworkers I prob would drive it a lot more. It is the best suv I ever owned
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To be honest, I would NEVER not drive a car because of what people might think or how they would "feel".
When I was working corporate like 2 years ago, I was 25, my side business was growing, so I bought myself a F-type R AWD. It was a mean looking jag! Do you know how many stories came up behind me at the office?
- he has rich parents
- why does he work here?
- he's a show off
- he's probably here to steal clients or ideas
Guess what? All those stories got back to me and I couldn't care less. My business finally exploded, I quit that job, and all those same people that were talking, are in the exact same place.
I'm 27 now, sold that business, got a performante, now a G wagon, and I drive them everywhere. Do you know how many friends I lost since I bought the performante? Mostly all of them! Family too! But guess what, I don't care. Cars are what makes me happy and why I do what I do. We live on this planet for 80 - 90 years if we're lucky and don't die a premature death. Why on earth would I waste 2 seconds thinking about what someone might think if I drive my lambo to a family gathering? Or if I don't attend that wedding? Or if I don't say happy birthday to someone?
Sorry for the rant, lol. My point is, drive that URUS!
When I was working corporate like 2 years ago, I was 25, my side business was growing, so I bought myself a F-type R AWD. It was a mean looking jag! Do you know how many stories came up behind me at the office?
- he has rich parents
- why does he work here?
- he's a show off
- he's probably here to steal clients or ideas
Guess what? All those stories got back to me and I couldn't care less. My business finally exploded, I quit that job, and all those same people that were talking, are in the exact same place.
I'm 27 now, sold that business, got a performante, now a G wagon, and I drive them everywhere. Do you know how many friends I lost since I bought the performante? Mostly all of them! Family too! But guess what, I don't care. Cars are what makes me happy and why I do what I do. We live on this planet for 80 - 90 years if we're lucky and don't die a premature death. Why on earth would I waste 2 seconds thinking about what someone might think if I drive my lambo to a family gathering? Or if I don't attend that wedding? Or if I don't say happy birthday to someone?
Sorry for the rant, lol. My point is, drive that URUS!
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Well, my plans got blowed up real good.
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
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Well, my plans got blowed up real good.
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
Im guessing they may just push it back to an MY23 release. No one actually knows MBUSA’s plans for the V8 yet.
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Well, my plans got blowed up real good.
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
As for the C63 convertible, at least for USA the current gen (A205) gets an extra model year (MY22 based on the A205) while the W206 takes over the sedan, W205 for MY22. There won't be a an A205 C-convertible direct successor, it will likely be replaced by a CLE instead.
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No more MB:(
Well, my plans got blowed up real good.
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
I had planned to trade in my 2017 S63 convertible for a 2022 SL63 convertible. That obviously won't happen, at least in V8 form. Any guesses as to whether there will be an SL of any kind by late this year or early 2022? A 6 cylinder SL53, or a 4 cylinder SL43, perhaps?
And if that's not happening, what about a 2022 C63 convertible? Ditch the V8 for the world's most powerful 4 pot?
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I don’t know, I try to be a highbrid boost in the Porsche Cayenne recently and I was totally blown away. I put an order in immediately. I am going to walk away from the Mercedes brand for a little while until they get their act together. I think it’ll take them five or six years.
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No more MB:(
Originally Posted by Subatomic Power
I don’t know, I try to be a highbrid boost in the Porsche Cayenne recently and I was totally blown away. I put an order in immediately. I am going to walk away from the Mercedes brand for a little while until they get their act together. I think it’ll take them five or six years.
