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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 11:21 PM
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Touche’. I like the Dinamica because it is warmer in Winter & cooler in Summer than leather. I would prefer leather surrounds to the MB-Tex. This is a choice driven partly by trying to exercise some cost control after getting the very expensive suspension. I have leather in both my current cars which I would still choose if cost were no object.
I prefer the Dinamica/Alcantara/Ultra Suede to leather. It's plush and very comfortable. We have it in our Audi but with real leather. I thought about it for the GLE but was concerned that the Side Bolsters wouldn't take the abuse of sliding over them. It's about being practical vs needing the most expensive for me. But wanting the best is always a factor.
I think that Mercedes and Audi have a reasonv or the fake exhausts other than said in money but could be wrong. I know that those fixed to the bumper can be damaged by harmonic vibrations.
We all have our reasons for different decisions and different taste.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 12:06 AM
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I prefer the Dinamica/Alcantara/Ultra Suede to leather. It's plush and very comfortable. We have it in our Audi but with real leather. I thought about it for the GLE but was concerned that the Side Bolsters wouldn't take the abuse of sliding over them. It's about being practical vs needing the most expensive for me.
MB-Tex is more durable than leather, IMO. Had the Tex/Alcantara upholstery in my W164 for 7 years and they held up fine,
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron.s
I prefer the Dinamica/Alcantara/Ultra Suede to leather. It's plush and very comfortable. We have it in our Audi but with real leather. I thought about it for the GLE but was concerned that the Side Bolsters wouldn't take the abuse of sliding over them. It's about being practical vs needing the most expensive for me. But wanting the best is always a factor.
I think that Mercedes and Audi have a reasonv or the fake exhausts other than said in money but could be wrong. I know that those fixed to the bumper can be damaged by harmonic vibrations.
We all have our reasons for different decisions and different taste.
We opted for the designo Nappa leather in our 17 GLS and really appreciate the softness, aroma, and durability. The diamond quilting is also very attractive. We would have selected the same option in the GLE if offered. Our previous two GL's had leather but not the designo Nappa leather. We never owned the MB-Tex seat covers but test drove a GL with it. Seemed durable enough but not as soft as the standard leather. And we feel the Nappa is softer than both of those options but expensive. As you say Ron, 'different taste'.

Anyway, I was just trying to stir up a little conversation since we're running out of things to post. Here's a new GLE video just posted last night:


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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMa
Anyway, I was just trying to stir up a little conversation since we're running out of things to post. Here's a new GLE video just posted last night.
A couple minor points from the video:
  • Appears this is from the Brussels Motor Show (1/19-27)
  • GLE 450 comes standard with 3rd row (glad we aren't saddled with that)
  • Exhaust outlets did not appear to be active
  • Key fob is nice
  • Like the 22" wheels - appears to be a square setup with 285/40 Summer tires
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 10:37 AM
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The X5 is not such good build quality. Here's a post from their forum...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...eda1a1784d.png

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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 10:51 AM
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Napa leather is nice but reportedly doesn’t wear as well long term from Info I’ve read in the past. We had it in a 5 year old Lexus and it was showing some wear. Proper care and treatment make a difference. The Audi Alcantera has deeper pile and is just softer and very plush. Also it’s never cold or hot like leather. There probably aren’t any bad seat materials so it’s what we like as individuals. We get occasional compliments from others riding in our Audi about the seats but never had any for the Lexus Napa leather.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
European test cycle figures for the GLE 450 are 12.61/7.61/9.41 l/100km, which converts to 18.65/30.91/25.0 mpg (city/highway/combined). Of course, the European tests are much different the the EPA's which usually results in quite a bit higher efficiency numbers for Europe.
It seems the Euro test standards for mileage and emissions has changed. The new one may be more in line with the US EPA numbers, at least on mpg.


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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:19 AM
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Personally, I don't get all the fuss over the exhaust tips. What difference does it make if the exhaust exits under the bumper or through the bumper? Is it simply because some feel it looks cool to see exhaust coming through the bumper? It's a family SUV, not a sports car. And I know my comments will get some of you all riled up but I just don't understand the fuss.
What bugs me is having fake outlets, much the same way BMW drivers don't appreciate synthesized engine sounds piped through the sound system's speakers.
On my 2001 BMW E38 740i, the exhausts are hidden behind a smooth rear bumper valence. It has a clean look, fitting for the car. Some people have made cutouts in the bumper to expose straight tips, lending a sportier look. Both look great. I'm just not a fan of fake vents, exhaust ports, etc. It's a Benz, not a KIA.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
  • Like the 22" wheels - appears to be a square setup with 285/40 Summer tires
Yea, those 22" look great on the new body but will result in a firmer ride. Regardless, I would have opted for them if available.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 12:17 PM
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The X5 is not such good build quality. Here's a post from their forum...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...eda1a1784d.png
There's always some risk buying a first-year model right out of the gate. I hope I don't end up with a bugging GLE. So much new tech in the GLE that problems could pop-up. One thing that is promising is that the MBUX team said we should get over-the-air updates twice a year.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 03:08 PM
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My dealer called me saying my 450 should arrive in Canada 2nd week of March.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 03:20 PM
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 03:43 PM
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Alcantara is not leather!
Uhhh, no. Who said it was?
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 04:05 PM
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My production date is now February 22nd. Adding E-ABC may have resulted in getting bumped to the 3rd decade.

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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMa
My production date is now February 22nd. Adding E-ABC may have resulted in getting bumped to the 3rd decade.

That's awesome! When did you originally place the order in? Mine is late March build.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:10 PM
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My production date is now February 22nd. Adding E-ABC may have resulted in getting bumped to the 3rd decade.
You were given an exact date? I thought they just gave decades this far in advance?
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:34 PM
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Alcantara is not leather!
The seat bottom and back is Alcantera, the rest is leather. The outside bottom bolster gets some additional wear sliding in and out.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 05:56 AM
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That's awesome! When did you originally place the order in? Mine is late March build.
I was one of the first orders when the order bank opened. My original build date was Feb 1.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 05:59 AM
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You were given an exact date? I thought they just gave decades this far in advance?
I understand why you ask but Netstar is showing a Feb 22 manufacturing date, nothing about which decade.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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I understand why you ask but Netstar is showing a Feb 22 manufacturing date, nothing about which decade.
Tightening up production maybe. I wonder if pricing and the Configurator will be available before Greg takes delivery....🤔 After so long since the announcement, they must have strong orders from Europe and/or haven’t got enough launch vehicles built. I’m guessing that a lot more people would order when the Config is available. I have provided Greg’s spreadsheet to a few on another Forum that were checking for the 2020 but finding the 2019 still listed. And yes people are cross shopping the Q8 with the GLE and X5.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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Tightening up production maybe. I wonder if pricing and the Configurator will be available before Greg takes delivery....🤔 After so long since the announcement, they must have strong orders from Europe and/or haven’t got enough launch vehicles built. I’m guessing that a lot more people would order when the Config is available. I have provided Greg’s spreadsheet to a few on another Forum that were checking for the 2020 but finding the 2019 still listed. And yes people are cross shopping the Q8 with the GLE and X5.
Just a guess, but they may be keeping the public profile low until they have some in dealerships that people can go see (and buy). Mercedes is not promoting the GLE on social media (Instagram, Twitter) either, nor responding to a couple posts I've made. Hopefully there will be an updated DOG soon, as that's not meant to be for public consumption.
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SEOUL — LG Electronics Co. is the supplier for a Daimler AG Mercedes-Benz model that will feature a motion-detection system that can read a driver's gestures in order to control some automobile functions, people with knowledge of the matter said.

A camera installed in the car ceiling will read the driver's hand gestures, letting them control tasks such as turning on cruise control and adjusting music volume. Ultimately, LG envisions a system that can perform more complex functions such as shifting gears, said the people, asking not to be identified because the information isn't yet public.

BMW has already deployed a similar system in its 7 Series sedans, using technology from Softkinetic Systems, which was later bought by Sony Corp. LG already has a deal with Mercedes for a camera system that can tell if the driver is drowsy. A Jan. 8 news release by Mercedes-Benz from CES in Las Vegas showcased a new feature called MBUX Interior Assist, which lets occupants of the Mercedes-Benz CLA Coupe control functions with gestures.

The ability to detect pedestrians and read traffic signs has also been deployed by several automakers; such advanced driver assistance systems are building blocks for fully autonomous vehicles that can fundamentally change the way people ride in cars in the future. LG is also working on a driver-assistance system, which it aims to supply to Daimler later this year or in early 2020. Delivery was initially set for later this year, but was being delayed because the South Korean company had trouble acquiring the necessary chips, one of the people said.

Representatives for LG and Daimler declined to comment.

LG is a member of a South Korean conglomerate that's been stepping up efforts to supply auto components, from electronic batteries to digital dashboards. LG competes with Intel Corp.'s Mobileye and Harman, a unit of Samsung Electronics Co., in the driver-assistance market, which is expected to expand to $67 billion by 2025 according to Grand View Research.

The Seoul company is seeking new sources of profit as its mobile phone and consumer electronics sales shrink in saturated markets. LG said earlier this month that its fourth-quarter operating profit fell 80 percent to 75.3 billion won ($66.5 million).
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I was one of the first orders when the order bank opened. My original build date was Feb 1.
Maybe they pushed the first decade's build date out to Feb 22 from Feb 1?
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Maybe they pushed the first decade's build date out to Feb 22 from Feb 1?
I think his explanation that he changed his suspension option after the order was locked (through special intervention) is most likely.
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Maybe they pushed the first decade's build date out to Feb 22 from Feb 1?
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