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That aside, I do agree there are some crappy dealers in FL like anywhere else....
Braman is a fine example.
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There is no way the car can be producing the HP it is supposed to. I would dyno the car to make a case for returning the car and getting all of your money back instead of loosing money on a resale. There simply could be something wrong with the motor resulting in the poort performance. Maybe someone else with take an E63 to a track for a comparison soon.
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There is no way the car can be producing the HP it is supposed to. I would dyno the car to make a case for returning the car and getting all of your money back instead of loosing money on a resale. There simply could be something wrong with the motor resulting in the poort performance. Maybe someone else with take an E63 to a track for a comparison soon.
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For those that are really concerned, can just get themselves a 600 level car for $145k+.
If the numbers are soft, I'm sure it will have more to do with what's going on in the world than the cars not being "fast" enough.
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............I share your point that something is wrong. But consider that many new M5's with the 510HP V10 engine run low 13's in the 1/4 mile. I think this is it folks. Maybe high 12's but not 12.1's in the 1/4 mile. Looks like MB built this car to directly compete agains the new M5, meaning that handling and top end performance are improved at the expense of low end grunt. Imagine how slow through the 1/4 mile an S63 or Cl63 will be. The jury is not out on the E63, but like I've said before, the S63 and CL63 are going to be big flops for MB. I said this even before Derek's run.
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The SL55 did not get a 6.3L motor for a good reason so I hope MB does something to make those W221 cars move.
Is it true that M5's are running 13's? I keep seeing car mags saying low low 12's for M5's and M6's at some crazy high trap speeds.
I hope its Dereks car at fault here not the whole series.
To Derek I understand you are frustrated. Sorry for the bickering. If that were my new 6.3L W211 I would likely be livid as well. I think my orders for new AMG's will be put on hold until this gets sorted out. Ill keep the 2 55k cars for now.
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Well it's amazing how alot of tuners are able to get the S550's to put out almost 70 -80 more hp with the 5.5l motors.What the hell is going on with the 6.3l motor?I think I'll call Carlsson and Brabus and find out about there experiences with the new 6.3 and 5.5L cars.this is all bad for the 63.
Here are a list of articles on some of the new 6.3L cars and 5.5L cars modded:
http://www.carlsson.de/en/race/test/test.php
Here's the article on the moddedCarlsson S550: PDF file
http://www.carlsson.de/pdf/race/test...ied_Canada.pdf
Here are a list of articles on some of the new 6.3L cars and 5.5L cars modded:
http://www.carlsson.de/en/race/test/test.php
Here's the article on the moddedCarlsson S550: PDF file
http://www.carlsson.de/pdf/race/test...ied_Canada.pdf
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I can vouch for Amil. He has helped me find both my CLS55 and my wife's supercharged RR. Both were exactly what I asked for in terms of options and color combo, and at nice discounts without haggling.
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the SMGIII is what's holding the M5 back though, I've seen M5's run 12.5 to 13.5, but they're always pulling some decent trap speeds, 112-116MPH....
a 108MPH trap speed with a decent 2.0x 60' from Derek pretty much shows that something is wrong..... unless the E63 gained a bunch of weight over the E55.....
if anyone in south florida wants to run up to Moroso with their E63, I'll meet you up there.... we need a few more runs...
a 108MPH trap speed with a decent 2.0x 60' from Derek pretty much shows that something is wrong..... unless the E63 gained a bunch of weight over the E55.....
if anyone in south florida wants to run up to Moroso with their E63, I'll meet you up there.... we need a few more runs...
............I share your point that something is wrong. But consider that many new M5's with the 510HP V10 engine run low 13's in the 1/4 mile. I think this is it folks. Maybe high 12's but not 12.1's in the 1/4 mile. Looks like MB built this car to directly compete agains the new M5, meaning that handling and top end performance are improved at the expense of low end grunt. Imagine how slow through the 1/4 mile an S63 or Cl63 will be. The jury is not out on the E63, but like I've said before, the S63 and CL63 are going to be big flops for MB. I said this even before Derek's run.
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Locally though, getting an 03 E55 for MSRP after an initial 8 month period wasn't that hard.
The Z06, best bang for the buck sports car ever.....that explains the demand. To that car's credit though, plenty of people have bought them at MSRP (both for 06 and now 07).
The GT500......I have no idea why people are spending $15k+ over sticker for that car.
The Z06, best bang for the buck sports car ever.....that explains the demand. To that car's credit though, plenty of people have bought them at MSRP (both for 06 and now 07).
The GT500......I have no idea why people are spending $15k+ over sticker for that car.
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I just bought an E63 today. It definetely does not initially feel as powerful but is actually what I expected so far for a car with less torque than my old 2003 E55. I ran 12.4 @ 114 consistantly in my stock '03 E55 with only 700 miles on the odometer...we will see what this one does soon.
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People are paying over for the Z06, but there many buyers who got their cars for MSRP both for the 06 model year and just recently the 07 model year.
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Something Is Wrong.....
there is definitely something wrong w/ that car.
my cousin got a ml63 last night (he was at the dealership until 1am).
i drove it today (it has 135+mi on it) and it is at least as fast as my clk55. i know my car is as fast as its supposed to be b/c ive ran it against others (m3, evo, 911..) and at the track. my car is definitely a low 13 second car.
that ml 63 is something else though, i though my dads ml55 was a fast truck
i havent launched it yet, but through the 1st 3 gears the acceleration does not diminish, it just keeps pulling.
its definitely not as torquey as the 55k (mom has e55) but it is much more refined and more enjoyable to use. you can actually feel that there is a peak to it, unlike the 55k plateau.
my cousin got a ml63 last night (he was at the dealership until 1am).
i drove it today (it has 135+mi on it) and it is at least as fast as my clk55. i know my car is as fast as its supposed to be b/c ive ran it against others (m3, evo, 911..) and at the track. my car is definitely a low 13 second car.
that ml 63 is something else though, i though my dads ml55 was a fast truck
i havent launched it yet, but through the 1st 3 gears the acceleration does not diminish, it just keeps pulling.
its definitely not as torquey as the 55k (mom has e55) but it is much more refined and more enjoyable to use. you can actually feel that there is a peak to it, unlike the 55k plateau.
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Flop? I hightly doubt that, people will buy the new AMG range S and CL cars.
For those that are really concerned, can just get themselves a 600 level car for $145k+.
If the numbers are soft, I'm sure it will have more to do with what's going on in the world than the cars not being "fast" enough.
For those that are really concerned, can just get themselves a 600 level car for $145k+.
If the numbers are soft, I'm sure it will have more to do with what's going on in the world than the cars not being "fast" enough.
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[QUOTE=DerekFSU;1747194]I did forget one good thing though- the cruise now accelerates in 1 mph increments instead of 5. QUOTE]
If that is the only redeeming feature on the E63, it can go straight to hell.
My 2005 E55 cruise control increments up and down in 1kph, as does the speed limiter (if I was ever to use it
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If that is the only redeeming feature on the E63, it can go straight to hell.
My 2005 E55 cruise control increments up and down in 1kph, as does the speed limiter (if I was ever to use it
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Also for those that lease.......the S63 will have a much better residual.
Not to mention there is a good number of people who don't want a V12 car.
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While my cruise is in 1kph increments I think my speed limiter is 5kph increments (2003 model)- I'll have to check.
I only use the speed limiter on a thursday night on one particular road where those nasty revenue raisers hide behind a power pole in an unlit section of the road -@#$&*
Why would US spec cars be different?
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Don't know it has been mentioned or not, but with distronic, there is a choice of speed increase of 1mph or 5 mph. Also, pre 2007 models have a fan speed selector that will allow A/C air flow increase with just a couple of pushes of the button. And, all of us guys with old AMGs have (or could have) dynamic seats. Man, what a loss.
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The Boerne dealership treated me great as did the San Antonio MB dealer while I was shopping.
