E63 Renntech vs MHP data
10-29-2008, 01:57 AM
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I don't see additional power helping you go quicker on 20s. Faster maybe, but not quicker.
10-29-2008, 01:59 AM
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If you take the time to read through my posts you'll see that I never instigate these pissing contests. I am guilty of making honest comments that some people may not like, however I don't believe that alone justifies the personal and BS attacks on us and our results.
I have Andy. Like you say, there is no feedback on you guys, so why would we choose to bash just you? Take some responsibility. Not everyone on this site can be nuts so write some of us off, but you may wanna listen to the rest some. Your hateful words were never entranced with facts but simple belittleing that I like, but others may not. Deny it all you want.
In the end we ended up making more power than a very established company with by comparison, an unlimited budget.
RennTech is very budget limitted and not quite the lord of tuners as you keep trying to push. I'd give them the edge on 63 tuning only because of Rick's car and you will have that soon.
Now factor in the benefits of our TCU tuning (which can't be measured quantitatively except for at the track which will happen shortly, and/or by driving the car every day not just at WOT but part thorttle as well) and I think you have to begin to see how this test was a success. I never said the difference in dyno numbers was "huge", but they are certainly significant enough to recognize.
How does this in any way show us what the TCU tune can do? It has been days now since the tunes are out and all we hear about is claims of speed that we aren't even that interested in. How can you claim a success and expect us to buy in when we can not even get the real facts about the TCU tunes? Not saying you are hiding any truths, just saying we spend more time arguing than talking about details of the tunes. Even in the other thread when people did start asking about the "blip" features, you simply (and wrongly) wrote someone off for asking a question.
Sounds like history repeating itself. There will always be conflict on the net. With that being said I don't believe there needed to be in this thread, or that it needs to continue at this point either. The numbers are out, make of them what you will.
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I have Andy. Like you say, there is no feedback on you guys, so why would we choose to bash just you? Take some responsibility. Not everyone on this site can be nuts so write some of us off, but you may wanna listen to the rest some. Your hateful words were never entranced with facts but simple belittleing that I like, but others may not. Deny it all you want.
In the end we ended up making more power than a very established company with by comparison, an unlimited budget.
RennTech is very budget limitted and not quite the lord of tuners as you keep trying to push. I'd give them the edge on 63 tuning only because of Rick's car and you will have that soon.
Now factor in the benefits of our TCU tuning (which can't be measured quantitatively except for at the track which will happen shortly, and/or by driving the car every day not just at WOT but part thorttle as well) and I think you have to begin to see how this test was a success. I never said the difference in dyno numbers was "huge", but they are certainly significant enough to recognize.
How does this in any way show us what the TCU tune can do? It has been days now since the tunes are out and all we hear about is claims of speed that we aren't even that interested in. How can you claim a success and expect us to buy in when we can not even get the real facts about the TCU tunes? Not saying you are hiding any truths, just saying we spend more time arguing than talking about details of the tunes. Even in the other thread when people did start asking about the "blip" features, you simply (and wrongly) wrote someone off for asking a question.
Sounds like history repeating itself. There will always be conflict on the net. With that being said I don't believe there needed to be in this thread, or that it needs to continue at this point either. The numbers are out, make of them what you will.
Thanks
10-29-2008, 02:03 AM
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10-29-2008, 02:05 AM
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You are getting me in the racing mood maybe I need to swing by the track to see what she will run.
10-29-2008, 02:08 AM
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That I have no clue about HP to wheel size? But I do know for a fact .2 will come of easy in a preped track. I have already went 1.7s on 20s. I was also dumping stupid amounts of fuel on the top end. now my car pulls right threw the gears instead of falling on its face the last half.
You are getting me in the racing mood maybe I need to swing by the track to see what she will run.
You are getting me in the racing mood maybe I need to swing by the track to see what she will run.
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10-29-2008, 02:10 AM
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My only caution would be that the added power may make it alot more difficult to still get decent 60' times. It is also going to probably be in the 40's at MIR. I am not sure street tires would be able to warm up enough to run 1.9s. Otherwise continue with this theoretical match-up ...it is entertaining
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Even running a 1.9 I still beat him pretty easy. (not talking trash)
10-29-2008, 02:15 AM
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Car can easly get 1.7s the 1.9 was on a zero preped track. you have to be perfect with the gas or you just spin. there is no just mash the gas down, I tried that and went sideways and almost smacked another members sl65.
Even running a 1.9 I still beat him pretty easy. (not talking trash)
Even running a 1.9 I still beat him pretty easy. (not talking trash)
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10-29-2008, 02:16 AM
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You have been here since 2002?
you dont remember me? Im the guy who liked to keep it like the streets. street rims and tires for track events and never put it in dyno mode and break stand. I would just roll up hammer the gas to get a lil burnout, line up and go. That was as realistic to the street I could get.
I couldnt be the guy at the stop light saying wait I have to go home and change rims and tires for our light to light race. or better yet hold on I have to get into dyno mode and do a burnout .lol
you dont remember me? Im the guy who liked to keep it like the streets. street rims and tires for track events and never put it in dyno mode and break stand. I would just roll up hammer the gas to get a lil burnout, line up and go. That was as realistic to the street I could get.
I couldnt be the guy at the stop light saying wait I have to go home and change rims and tires for our light to light race. or better yet hold on I have to get into dyno mode and do a burnout .lol
10-29-2008, 02:22 AM
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You have been here since 2002?
you dont remember me? Im the guy who liked to keep it like the streets. street rims and tires for track events and never put it in dyno mode and break stand. I would just roll up hammer the gas to get a lil burnout, line up and go. That was as realistic to the street I could get.
I couldnt be the guy at the stop light saying wait I have to go home and change rims and tires for our light to light race. or better yet hold on I have to get into dyno mode and do a burnout .lol
you dont remember me? Im the guy who liked to keep it like the streets. street rims and tires for track events and never put it in dyno mode and break stand. I would just roll up hammer the gas to get a lil burnout, line up and go. That was as realistic to the street I could get.
I couldnt be the guy at the stop light saying wait I have to go home and change rims and tires for our light to light race. or better yet hold on I have to get into dyno mode and do a burnout .lol
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10-29-2008, 02:27 AM
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Given the obvious drawbacks that 20's represent, I do feel that the extra rubber helps in exactly this - good launches. Buddy of mine has a Rentch modded E63 that is really quick. Off the line he takes me for about 4 seconds then through the 1/4 I am ahead of him by quite a bit. I'd like 20's, but the roads here are just too crappy.
10-29-2008, 02:34 AM
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Given the obvious drawbacks that 20's represent, I do feel that the extra rubber helps in exactly this - good launches. Buddy of mine has a Rentch modded E63 that is really quick. Off the line he takes me for about 4 seconds then through the 1/4 I am ahead of him by quite a bit. I'd like 20's, but the roads here are just too crappy.
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10-29-2008, 02:55 AM
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That's one answer but I don't think THE answer. My black series is way stiffer sprung and the smallest imperfection in the pavement causes wheel hop. Also, E63 weight distribution in this case is not so much distribution but actual weight that allows the rear end to actually bite. After having my car 4 corner balanced this became more evident and reinforced the fact that the black series is not a drag racer but made to put down very quick lap times.
10-29-2008, 02:57 AM
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I have Andy. Like you say, there is no feedback on you guys, so why would we choose to bash just you? Take some responsibility. Not everyone on this site can be nuts so write some of us off, but you may wanna listen to the rest some. Your hateful words were never entranced with facts but simple belittleing that I like, but others may not. Deny it all you want.
RennTech is very budget limitted and not quite the lord of tuners as you keep trying to push. I'd give them the edge on 63 tuning only because of Rick's car and you will have that soon.
How does this in any way show us what the TCU tune can do? It has been days now since the tunes are out and all we hear about is claims of speed that we aren't even that interested in. How can you claim a success and expect us to buy in when we can not even get the real facts about the TCU tunes? Not saying you are hiding any truths, just saying we spend more time arguing than talking about details of the tunes. Even in the other thread when people did start asking about the "blip" features, you simply (and wrongly) wrote someone off for asking a question.
As for my ansewr to the person (Blue Monster) who told Jeff he didn't know what he was talking about, and assumed our tuning allowed 6000rpm 1-2 shifts, he was wrong, and I told him so. I took the same position in my response as he did in his reply to Jeff.
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10-29-2008, 10:31 AM
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This has to be the worst money spent on any recent MB "tune".
What is really funny, is the references that they dont want to "blow" anything up as if this tune would even approach that feat.
Sorry, it had to be said. Buy an intake and some long headers and leave this alone.
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What is really funny, is the references that they dont want to "blow" anything up as if this tune would even approach that feat.
Sorry, it had to be said. Buy an intake and some long headers and leave this alone.
Paul
One more thing, do you have any idea how much a set of high quality long tube headers costs? Here's a hint...a lot more than an MHP tune!
10-29-2008, 11:23 AM
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10-29-2008, 12:29 PM
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Again Jim and Jangy? Are you both ready for a longer time out? Get out of this thread now and let it go back to the original discussion.
10-29-2008, 12:36 PM
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LOL, Vic, you better go back more than two posts if you want to clean this one up, Jangy started slinging mud back on page 2, but hey, I'm the easier target, right?
10-29-2008, 12:37 PM
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I really want you two to meet so that you can realize that you are good people. I will clean it all up. Back to the topic please guys
10-29-2008, 12:41 PM
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Holy non sequitor...There's actually quite a bit of feedback on us, with more coming in from reputable members every day.
Really? Any of them drive MBs? Everybody and their mama can tune Jeeps.
Read through my posts and you'll see that I rarely choose the route of personal attacks, on the flipside I am completely honest and often tell people what they may not want to hear which works against me.
You can keep thinking that you are the truth speaking yoda and that people just don't like your message. Truth is, we rarely listen to the message in the first place because of how it is RAMMED. You aren't the stand-out that noticed the King is naked. You just happened on it right now and got yourself excited.
Financially speaking we're like the indie coffee shop on the corner, Renntech is Starbucks by comparison. As much as I may or may not agree, I think most MB owners are under the distinct impression that Renntech is amongst the best tuners in the world for our vehicles.
MB owners, maybe. MBWorld owners, no. We consider RennTech to be for the ones that want slight (if any) gains but want the bling and are willing to pay for it. I would bet that 99.99% of RennTech owners are neither on this forum nor hardcore enthusiasts. The few that are here like the consistency of the brand. Either way, your little campaign to build a name by bashing others has been done 1000 times. In the end, if you have something to offer and last long enough for people to forget your mouth then you will have sales. If not, you will sell about 10 of them and then run like all the rest BEFORE all of the disaster hits.
Everyone that's driven one of our TCU tunes has made the same commentary about shift quality, firmness/quickness, quicker downshifting, heightened throttle response a completely revised driving experience including Jrcart, TuningTech, Jeff/Fr33kn, and vadert. Again with more results and input arriving every day even though the benefits of the TCU are hard to measure quanatatively speaking, they are very much real and will shine on the road or track.
You have not named a single established member here, why? Yes, we are curious about the TCU, but have seen NOTHING to back it up to date.
As for my ansewr to the person (Blue Monster) who told Jeff he didn't know what he was talking about, and assumed our tuning allowed 6000rpm 1-2 shifts, he was wrong, and I told him so. I took the same position in my response as he did in his reply to Jeff.
Again, you asked me to be serious so I was. You don't want to take responsibility for your mouth, then don't. You claim too be nothing but an animal. If i get hit I bite back, just like a dog in the pound.
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Really? Any of them drive MBs? Everybody and their mama can tune Jeeps.
Read through my posts and you'll see that I rarely choose the route of personal attacks, on the flipside I am completely honest and often tell people what they may not want to hear which works against me.
You can keep thinking that you are the truth speaking yoda and that people just don't like your message. Truth is, we rarely listen to the message in the first place because of how it is RAMMED. You aren't the stand-out that noticed the King is naked. You just happened on it right now and got yourself excited.
Financially speaking we're like the indie coffee shop on the corner, Renntech is Starbucks by comparison. As much as I may or may not agree, I think most MB owners are under the distinct impression that Renntech is amongst the best tuners in the world for our vehicles.
MB owners, maybe. MBWorld owners, no. We consider RennTech to be for the ones that want slight (if any) gains but want the bling and are willing to pay for it. I would bet that 99.99% of RennTech owners are neither on this forum nor hardcore enthusiasts. The few that are here like the consistency of the brand. Either way, your little campaign to build a name by bashing others has been done 1000 times. In the end, if you have something to offer and last long enough for people to forget your mouth then you will have sales. If not, you will sell about 10 of them and then run like all the rest BEFORE all of the disaster hits.
Everyone that's driven one of our TCU tunes has made the same commentary about shift quality, firmness/quickness, quicker downshifting, heightened throttle response a completely revised driving experience including Jrcart, TuningTech, Jeff/Fr33kn, and vadert. Again with more results and input arriving every day even though the benefits of the TCU are hard to measure quanatatively speaking, they are very much real and will shine on the road or track.
You have not named a single established member here, why? Yes, we are curious about the TCU, but have seen NOTHING to back it up to date.
As for my ansewr to the person (Blue Monster) who told Jeff he didn't know what he was talking about, and assumed our tuning allowed 6000rpm 1-2 shifts, he was wrong, and I told him so. I took the same position in my response as he did in his reply to Jeff.
Again, you asked me to be serious so I was. You don't want to take responsibility for your mouth, then don't. You claim too be nothing but an animal. If i get hit I bite back, just like a dog in the pound.
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