Ali_E55

i'm willing to buy a headers for my next tune and VRP intake system,

which one do u recommend for

i found VRP short tubes for $1499
Kleemann for $1495


notice that i already removed my catalyst.


thanks guys.

jangy

I'll sell you my VRPs for $1000.

Kleeman are also nice, but why not long tubes if you already cut the cats?

bassn_07

Take it!

I'm telling you these shorties make some power. Time and time again people have criticized these shorties but there are plenty of cars making good power with them.

Ali_E55

sorry for any unclear explaining.

but kleemann only does long tubes ? am i right ?

so for this range of price, VRP Shorts will be beter ? or Kleemann long tubes are ?

bassn_07

Kleeman's are considered more of a mid header setup and VRP's are short. If you already have your cat delete I would go with a full long tube setup. It's going to cost more but if it's affordable that would be my choice. My second choice, since you already have your primaries gone is to go with Kleeman. They will make more power over the shorties. Most people go with shorties with emissions in mind, especially here in California but with where you live that won't be a problem.

Ali_E55

any recomendations for a long tube headers ?

and will kleemann headers bolt join ? or since i removed my primeries it wont be a bolt on set. ?

thanks for your input.

in US i found the kleemann Headers for $1495 but here in Dubai they want to charge me 18,000 AED which = $4900 without installation and about $540 for the installation @@

it is really costy here for a reason i don't know why !!!!

jangy

Floored Fab for long tubes or a custom setup. None of the "kitted" ones are reasonably priced, yet.

jangy

kleeman headers do not bolt on. you need to cut the primary cats anyway.

Ali_E55

hmmmmm

looks like i may go for buying kleemann online from US with VRP intake and tubes

bassn_07

Here's a link with the discount still available.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...e-headers.html

Ali_E55

who is going to your set on that link ??

will it be worthy for the money ?

MJ50

KLEEMANN

Ali_E55

yeah i also think long tubes will give more power

and it is beter because i removed my catalysts already

hooleyboy

I would stay away from any header that is made of mild steel. Mild steel is like $.08 a pound. With that said, you can pay $1500 for a set of headers that have maybe $50 worth of material in them. . Trust me I know what it cost to do a production run on headers.

Ali_E55

i dont think these two mentioned above are Mild steel ><

i was hust wondering which one is better, i am sure going for a SS long tube ceramic coated if i can get one

hooleyboy

Vadim's headers are Mild steel, Kleemann uses Chinese SS. Chinese SS is cheap and its not anywhere near as strong as US SS.

U bend prices:
Mild steel 3 inch radius = $7.99
304 SS 3 inch radius =49.99

I think its safe to say mild steel headers available for the AMG have less then $50 of material in them.

Ali_E55

WOW @@

then it does not cost them that much

so can u point @ a good US SS headers for my E55 ???

lauer87

+1

Do any aftermarket shops make headers made of high quality stainless steel? I'm thinking about buying some headers, but don't wanna buy some cheap headers only to have to replace them in a few years, I want them to LAST.

hooleyboy

Im making E55 long tube headers out of 100% stainless steel. Built off the correct firing order (currently unavailable for any 55 on a production level)...

Our C55 SS headers finish up tomorrow then its on to the next car. If anyone in the AZ area wants headers for the E55 made and dyno tested I will give you a smoking deal PM or PM my alter ego sponsor name MBH Motorsports. We are lucky enough to have one of the best header fabricators in the game. Again PM me I can send you pictures of some custom work.

jangy

Who does the tune? My wife is from Az.....

hooleyboy

Jangy I met you at Speedworld the day the Grand National wrecked the poor guys new car. All my tuning is done by Dyno-Comp. MBH Motorsports is the Mercedes R&D devision of Dyno-Comp. If you are ever in the area you can stop in and most likely I will be there.

Really though I had to become a sponsor of MBworld to talk about bringing cool projects, idea's and products to my friends here at MBW. So if you ever see a post by MBH Motorsports, Its my alter ego.

Ali_E55

hooleyboy,

what are the gains from your headers ? and how much does it cost ?

PM if you don't wish to share it here

hooleyboy

PM'ed

jangy

Absolutely, i remember you. I also know of dyno comp. I was just curious if you are under RennTech's tentacles or not. If not, then you may be my new tuner . I don't mind some affiliation with RennTech, I just don't want to buy their parts or tunes so as long as you have a variety I am good. Key for me is tuning since I wanna go a little nuts....

Vadim @ FD

T409, my friend.

T304 cracks after several hundred heat cycles. Just had a set of 997TT T304 stainless changed out that were a year old.

If you want them to last forever use 321. But then no one will pay $12,000 for an exhaust.