emoving

M5Board smack talk. Need back up!
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...ml#post1970949

Johncy2000

BOOO! I just raced a E60 M5 with Exhaust, intake, scoops, flash and beat it. I am stock with only 3 inch exhaust. hahaha and they said a modded 540i could beat us. Ya right. I stand behind you on this one Marcus.

emoving

They are talking about the E39 M5s, not even the E60V10.

Johncy2000

Bwhahaha Please. I wanna sign up on that forum and just tell them what's up seriously.

snail45

Almost looked like the w210 e55 by the way they talking.

emoving

Actually, one of the few on there who has a clue is Clemster. He bought my 03 E39 M5 and put the SC on there. He will admit my mildly tuned E55 pulled last year on a SC M5.

LOCO 05' E55

That is the never ending debate...took a buddy of mine for a spin 2 nights ago for the first time, he is a WRX/sti owner with tons of work done, the only thing that came out his mouth when he got off my car was "im getting me an M5 and throw a pulley,exhaust and a blower and trust me you wont stand a chance"

emoving

My E55 was not nearly as fast as yours and I walked a tuned, exhaust, SCd, M5 as Clemster admitted in that thread. He was in the passenger seat of my car. Tell your subi boy to go for it and waste more money.

LOCO 05' E55

AWOL

All m5s are easy prey

Vader13

Long time running small peni2 complex...always ends with, well. so what..the BMW wins in the twisties. It's pointless.

LawRens

Doesn't seem like smack talk to me... The vast majority easily respect that the e55k is the straight line destroyer, even against an SC'd e39 m5... And it's true, benz's just cant handle compared to a bmw.

I can only imagine how much faster an AMG would be if it had a 6spd manual hooked up to it as opposed to an auto tranny.

Das Geld 2

Is that why there are no 2005-2010 BMW models under 8 minutes on the Nurburgring? While MB has plenty?

LawRens

BMW doesn't have the vast amount of resources that MB has. Look at Europe, Mercedes is the big boss there. They have the backing support of the entire continent! Vans, taxis, trucks (unimogs), they're all Mercedes! And Mercedes can afford to make all the supercars SLR, CLK/SL BS, SLS?

And besides, Nurburgring slightly favors high powered vehicles moreso than handlers imo. Don't get me wrong, i love the three pointed star, but i'm realistic too.

pearlpower

M5, M6, easy kill. They are nice, but their lack of torque really hinders them. Our outrageous torque hurts us with wheel spin, so we must always keep our emotional right foot in check and kill in style.

cal1

Well put

Slow_E60_M5

Hello everybody. Yes I just joined but only because I saw this "smack talk about M5s" thread and the other "I beat the modded M5 in my stock E55 AMG race".

If that's the case explain... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hy-U_-oj2U

That ^

That's the Touring (wagon) version. If the sedan is lighter, it's obviously faster. I'm pretty sure the better gearing and gear ratios of the M5 make up for the lack of torque found in the V10. Plus, I'm pretty sure it's horsepower and gearing that wins races in rolling starts to higher speeds.

And don't give me any of that "M5BOARD AND GTBOARD ARE BMW BIASED". They aren't. They've shown their own cars getting beaten before even Mercedes. Well guys??

pearlpower

Hey look, an M5 slow po troll. Simple, bad pump which is very common or other issue. It has been proven over and over and over including multiple (not just 1) videos of the W211 eating the M5 over and over and over. Stock for stock. I have done it many times out here in So Cal. Any M5 people out here want to go head to head-oh yeah, my car is not stock, well let's allow you to remove your carbon filter. LOL.

The M5 does have good gearing but has pitiful torque.

Oh, and oh yeah, m5board.com. Laughable at best. How about the video where they showed some 600hp+ E55 losing to a stock M5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q17bT...62219&index=10

Any M5 owners care to go up against me? This is a challenge!

Slow_E60_M5

troll? Thanks for the compliment buddy. Bad intercooler pump? I know what that is since my sl55 used to have those problems...

Those airfield runs are usuallly done in colder weather where turbo and supercharged engines are more likely to shine due to the colder air... And plus, I highly doubt it's intercooler pump since the owner/driver of the E55 AMG wouldn't want to race against anything if it's not up to full potential.

I'm pretty sure I'd know when my sl55 is on a failing intercooler pump (loss of significant power). You'd FEEL the loss of power and if that's the case then why would the drive of the E55 want race agaisnt the M5 Touring??? Exactly then.

Edit: Okay that video link you provided...maybe something was wrong with the headers or one of the bolt ons the modded E55 had.. And that will cause lack of power etc. I will admit that a 600 HP plus modded E55 AMG should walk a stock m6. But stock for stock? M6 >>> E55 especially at higher speeds.

pearlpower

It's simple, a bad pump does not necessarily mean a failed pump and there multiple people here that have went to the track and was at a loss of a slower than usual trap time-though still impressive. Changed pump, and picked up a few more MPH. Simple as that. A cold runway or weather does not make up for a failing pump Einstein. Same as if you went and drained your cooling system in your M5, will it overheat in cold weather?

Now, back to the business, you live out here in So California? Any one of your so called M5 buddies want to run? Or you just want to internet race and post up youtube links? BTW, welcome aboard.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...modded-m5.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...vs-m5-vid.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-m5-video.html

cahiil55k

Hey troll, explain these non-GTBoard videos then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0hThO4LnT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kENHL174VBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL1_rCRXC5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_zV0Ahkw5Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REmBlx2klGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5jZ_L7QfvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7RhpFJC_1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDdVlAg8CgQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plo6f4t1ERo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQqUACAe_Rw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDqfh5BThdU

pearlpower

HAHAHAHAHA, come on. You ever hear the term Pick you Battles Wisely.
Now your saying "AT HIGHER SPEEDS".

Please, the M5 and M6 are great cars, have always stated that myself. But their Honda Prelude torque does little to help propel the car. Sure it has solid gearing, but it is no E55 in acceleration, AND, many here have pulled those even at top speed, stock for stock. The more you push the E55, the more the pump has to keep things cool. Replace the stock crappy pump, and it's a different story.

Just about every owner has had to replace their pump.

Slow_E60_M5

I would love to run you but I don't (A. live in Cali and B. Your car is modded with some bolt ons). Of course you'd beat me. My cars are both stock still.

And I'm actually from the M5board. And I mostly check there more than here. Just somehow when I decided to check the SL forum that I see this thread.

In response to your internet links, I can respond too with more links (bench racing lolz FTW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aVZ9s9ddGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CApit...eature=related

Johncy2000

Sorry Slow M5 but your M5 has no chance even against a stock E55. My cousin has evosport pullies, intake, eisenmann exhaust, and flash and I pulled on him with four people in the car. lol M5 board is so biased obviously. It was a bad intercooler pump for sure. There is no way a WAGON m5 could do that to an E55. Please..

motorkas

Rarely put my .02 in but it's the holiday season and all. . .

First - many members on this board have, had M5s (39 and 60) M6's etc. Most who have 55's 63's made that choice, not because they are MB loyalists, but because they wanted a high performance luxury sleeper. Usually the cars in the mix are the M5, E55/63, RS6, XJR. They like cars period. It's common knowledge that between MB and BMW the V-10s live up high and the 55's live down low - nobody really debates that. A good driver in an 55 v. a good driver in a M5 (in a straight line) will pretty much mirror those results. Mod for mod, I've never seen an 39 M5 take a modded 55 (I have a sneaking suspicion that will change once Charlie unveils his baby) but who knows. . . Both are great cars, they're driving dynamics are different and one persons preference in that regard, along with the interiors, usually drives the choice. Either way, for every M5 victory video, there's a 55/63 victory video so you tube is not necessarily the best place to mediate this debate...all I know is this. . .rather than talk theories - ask somebody with a modded 55 (or stock)on this board to race - I can guarentee you there will be no shortage of takers (and they'll even have a closed circuit with timing apparatus set up just to be sure).