another twin turbo e55 amg is born at BIP
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We have done everything mentioned above, and it did not change one thing, right at 4700rpms it starts skipping and breaking up.
Starting to get very frustrated here due to all the extra money invested with no difference. Last resort is to clamp the map sensor which will be done on Monday. If that does not solve it, well, there is not much else that can be done.
We may try routing the waste gates to the open atmosphere to see if that makes a difference too.
I am not sure if RBJ is having similar issues, but an interesting detail is that the previous customer who ran the kit ran into the same issue, and could not get around it either.
Right at 4600rpms on our Dyno Dyamics we are sitting at 498rwhp/620rwtq at 11.2 lbs. That equates to 572rwhp on a 224 Dynojet, and the power is still going up at 45* before the breakup occurs.
My car is a 06 btw.
Starting to get very frustrated here due to all the extra money invested with no difference. Last resort is to clamp the map sensor which will be done on Monday. If that does not solve it, well, there is not much else that can be done.
We may try routing the waste gates to the open atmosphere to see if that makes a difference too.
I am not sure if RBJ is having similar issues, but an interesting detail is that the previous customer who ran the kit ran into the same issue, and could not get around it either.
Right at 4600rpms on our Dyno Dyamics we are sitting at 498rwhp/620rwtq at 11.2 lbs. That equates to 572rwhp on a 224 Dynojet, and the power is still going up at 45* before the breakup occurs.
My car is a 06 btw.
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I doubt any twin turbo will work without some crazy tuning most probably on a stand alone, redbulljnky hasn't shown anything more than a revving car, come on dude, if his is working post up a real video not some bs car revving. Chawkins and bip I commend you for your honesty.
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Yes you are correct, and he's a stand up dude , showed dyno graphs and runs with no issues. Chawkins has issues which could be either hardware or tuning so where's redbulljnky? He was on clstt all the time for graphs, slips etc, where is he now? Not one dyno chart not one slip like I said at least Chawkins and bip are honest and say there are issues, the only reason I'm pointing at redbulljnky now is because he was being a smart *** with clstt
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Didn't I saw way back in this thread I was surprised the stock ECU could handle the build and boost characteristics of a TT setup versus the stock supercharger and got made fun of lol
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Just wrapped up at the shop. After doing a ton of data logging, and talking to some folks this afternoon, I feel we have honed in on the issue.
I will be making a summit racing run tomorrow for a bucket list of goods. Hoping this will solve the issue. In the meantime, enjoy this dyno logging session below:
http://s138.photobucket.com/user/cha...24554.mp4.html
I will be making a summit racing run tomorrow for a bucket list of goods. Hoping this will solve the issue. In the meantime, enjoy this dyno logging session below:
http://s138.photobucket.com/user/cha...24554.mp4.html
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I know it may sound stupid. But have you checked the intake for boost leaks. The only thing different from the supercharged to turbo set up is the intake. Has the intake been pressure tested and verified no leaks @ xx amount of boost.
It is just weird that you can have more hp with the supercharged set up. And now with a turbo you are having issues at lower hp With breaking up. It just not seem like a fuel issue. Dropping .8 from the tune should not make it break up. Just run.leaner with hotter egt.
It is just weird that you can have more hp with the supercharged set up. And now with a turbo you are having issues at lower hp With breaking up. It just not seem like a fuel issue. Dropping .8 from the tune should not make it break up. Just run.leaner with hotter egt.
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We have done everything mentioned above, and it did not change one thing, right at 4700rpms it starts skipping and breaking up.
Starting to get very frustrated here due to all the extra money invested with no difference. Last resort is to clamp the map sensor which will be done on Monday. If that does not solve it, well, there is not much else that can be done.
We may try routing the waste gates to the open atmosphere to see if that makes a difference too.
I am not sure if RBJ is having similar issues, but an interesting detail is that the previous customer who ran the kit ran into the same issue, and could not get around it either.
Right at 4600rpms on our Dyno Dyamics we are sitting at 498rwhp/620rwtq at 11.2 lbs. That equates to 572rwhp on a 224 Dynojet, and the power is still going up at 45* before the breakup occurs.
My car is a 06 btw.
Starting to get very frustrated here due to all the extra money invested with no difference. Last resort is to clamp the map sensor which will be done on Monday. If that does not solve it, well, there is not much else that can be done.
We may try routing the waste gates to the open atmosphere to see if that makes a difference too.
I am not sure if RBJ is having similar issues, but an interesting detail is that the previous customer who ran the kit ran into the same issue, and could not get around it either.
Right at 4600rpms on our Dyno Dyamics we are sitting at 498rwhp/620rwtq at 11.2 lbs. That equates to 572rwhp on a 224 Dynojet, and the power is still going up at 45* before the breakup occurs.
My car is a 06 btw.
I doubt any twin turbo will work without some crazy tuning most probably on a stand alone, redbulljnky hasn't shown anything more than a revving car, come on dude, if his is working post up a real video not some bs car revving. Chawkins and bip I commend you for your honesty.
Yes you are correct, and he's a stand up dude , showed dyno graphs and runs with no issues. Chawkins has issues which could be either hardware or tuning so where's redbulljnky? He was on clstt all the time for graphs, slips etc, where is he now? Not one dyno chart not one slip like I said at least Chawkins and bip are honest and say there are issues, the only reason I'm pointing at redbulljnky now is because he was being a smart *** with clstt
Just wrapped up at the shop. After doing a ton of data logging, and talking to some folks this afternoon, I feel we have honed in on the issue.
I will be making a summit racing run tomorrow for a bucket list of goods. Hoping this will solve the issue. In the meantime, enjoy this dyno logging session below:
http://s138.photobucket.com/user/cha...24554.mp4.html
I will be making a summit racing run tomorrow for a bucket list of goods. Hoping this will solve the issue. In the meantime, enjoy this dyno logging session below:
http://s138.photobucket.com/user/cha...24554.mp4.html
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I don't know where to begin with you, liar comes to mind then loser for sure. Ya, you need to pay hookers since you are a loser.
Just like you were doing to clstt, where's the dyno sheets with the afr?, where are the time slips? Ya, up your *** with all your lies, first it was your car made 550hp on race gas with a stage 3 then some other magical number, remember this thread?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/522331-another-twin-turbo-55k-car-2.html
Either put up some dyno charts and slips made with that ugly tractor sounding car or stfu. Your stories change by the hour just like you pay your hookers.
I will be just like you, produce proof and I'll retract what I said about you but more likely than not, you will just talk more bs.
Just like you were doing to clstt, where's the dyno sheets with the afr?, where are the time slips? Ya, up your *** with all your lies, first it was your car made 550hp on race gas with a stage 3 then some other magical number, remember this thread?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/522331-another-twin-turbo-55k-car-2.html
Either put up some dyno charts and slips made with that ugly tractor sounding car or stfu. Your stories change by the hour just like you pay your hookers.
I will be just like you, produce proof and I'll retract what I said about you but more likely than not, you will just talk more bs.
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joncl why not take this bashing somewhere else? this is a completely different guys thread and your just mucking the thread up. leave this alone and let craig have his time on here with all his progress good or bad.
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I don't know where to begin with you, liar comes to mind then loser for sure. Ya, you need to pay hookers since you are a loser.
Just like you were doing to clstt, where's the dyno sheets with the afr?, where are the time slips? Ya, up your *** with all your lies, first it was your car made 550hp on race gas with a stage 3 then some other magical number, remember this thread?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...55k-car-2.html
Either put up some dyno charts and slips made with that ugly tractor sounding car or stfu. Your stories change by the hour just like you pay your hookers.
I will be just like you, produce proof and I'll retract what I said about you but more likely than not, you will just talk more bs.
Just like you were doing to clstt, where's the dyno sheets with the afr?, where are the time slips? Ya, up your *** with all your lies, first it was your car made 550hp on race gas with a stage 3 then some other magical number, remember this thread?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...55k-car-2.html
Either put up some dyno charts and slips made with that ugly tractor sounding car or stfu. Your stories change by the hour just like you pay your hookers.
I will be just like you, produce proof and I'll retract what I said about you but more likely than not, you will just talk more bs.
I can't imagine what your issue is with E, but you're making assumptions and looking like a fool. The local guys know the deal.
He's a stand up guy. Nicer than he needs to be.
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320dreamer, you are right. I will go to his bs thread however remember he did it to someone else also, financemike, that car is not running or at best just like Chawkins which is not good.
Chawkins good luck with your build at least we will know the truth with your build.
Chawkins good luck with your build at least we will know the truth with your build.
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How come the fan isn't running in the video?
Or were you guys just playing around?
I think a pressure test on the manifold is a great idea , if u haven't already.
Good luck getting it squared away.
Or were you guys just playing around?
I think a pressure test on the manifold is a great idea , if u haven't already.
Good luck getting it squared away.
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Good luck Chawkins,I have no doubt you guys will soon figure everything out and make good power!! It's not easy (hence why there are so few turbo E's) but it will be worth it when it's all said and done..
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I don't know where to begin with you, liar comes to mind then loser for sure. Ya, you need to pay hookers since you are a loser.
Just like you were doing to clstt, where's the dyno sheets with the afr?, where are the time slips? Ya, up your *** with all your lies, first it was your car made 550hp on race gas with a stage 3 then some other magical number, remember this thread?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...55k-car-2.html
Either put up some dyno charts and slips made with that ugly tractor sounding car or stfu. Your stories change by the hour just like you pay your hookers.
I will be just like you, produce proof and I'll retract what I said about you but more likely than not, you will just talk more bs.
Just like you were doing to clstt, where's the dyno sheets with the afr?, where are the time slips? Ya, up your *** with all your lies, first it was your car made 550hp on race gas with a stage 3 then some other magical number, remember this thread?
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...55k-car-2.html
Either put up some dyno charts and slips made with that ugly tractor sounding car or stfu. Your stories change by the hour just like you pay your hookers.
I will be just like you, produce proof and I'll retract what I said about you but more likely than not, you will just talk more bs.
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Local guys do know what's up
RBJ has never had a reason to lie
Don't know why this thread got hijacked
Ive talked to RBJs guy who built the turbo kit just last Sunday at the local bar
He's confident in the numbers
RBJ has never had a reason to lie
Don't know why this thread got hijacked
Ive talked to RBJs guy who built the turbo kit just last Sunday at the local bar
He's confident in the numbers
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100% truth right here
I second this,RBJ is a stand up guy and always willing to help out a fellow member.. He has helped me out on multiple occasions..
Good luck Chawkins,I have no doubt you guys will soon figure everything out and make good power!! It's not easy (hence why there are so few turbo E's) but it will be worth it when it's all said and done..
Good luck Chawkins,I have no doubt you guys will soon figure everything out and make good power!! It's not easy (hence why there are so few turbo E's) but it will be worth it when it's all said and done..
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It looks like we have found the issue. For every pound of boost this new setup is making, I am losing a pound of fuel pressure.
We put in brand new 340lph e85 fuel pumps, brand new sender unit and it did not help. We are taking the sender unit back out and will sell it for a discounted price. It was only run for one run on the dyno and will be 20% off the factory price for interested partys.
What we are going to do now is, use my other sender unit we thought was the problem, take out the factory fuel filter, take out the factory regulator at the bottom of the unit. We will replace the inlet and out ports of the factory sender unit with large an fittings so it can accept and push more fuel. Lastly, we will be running an adjustable pressure regulator in the engine bay, and a ~6an return fuel line back into the fuel tank.
An inline russel fuel filter will be run in the engine bay too.
We put in brand new 340lph e85 fuel pumps, brand new sender unit and it did not help. We are taking the sender unit back out and will sell it for a discounted price. It was only run for one run on the dyno and will be 20% off the factory price for interested partys.
What we are going to do now is, use my other sender unit we thought was the problem, take out the factory fuel filter, take out the factory regulator at the bottom of the unit. We will replace the inlet and out ports of the factory sender unit with large an fittings so it can accept and push more fuel. Lastly, we will be running an adjustable pressure regulator in the engine bay, and a ~6an return fuel line back into the fuel tank.
An inline russel fuel filter will be run in the engine bay too.
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It looks like we have found the issue. For every pound of boost this new setup is making, I am losing a pound of fuel pressure.
We put in brand new 340lph e85 fuel pumps, brand new sender unit and it did not help. We are taking the sender unit back out and will sell it for a discounted price. It was only run for one run on the dyno and will be 20% off the factory price for interested partys.
What we are going to do now is, use my other sender unit we thought was the problem, take out the factory fuel filter, take out the factory regulator at the bottom of the unit. We will replace the inlet and out ports of the factory sender unit with large an fittings so it can accept and push more fuel. Lastly, we will be running an adjustable pressure regulator in the engine bay, and a ~6an return fuel line back into the fuel tank.
An inline russel fuel filter will be run in the engine bay too.
We put in brand new 340lph e85 fuel pumps, brand new sender unit and it did not help. We are taking the sender unit back out and will sell it for a discounted price. It was only run for one run on the dyno and will be 20% off the factory price for interested partys.
What we are going to do now is, use my other sender unit we thought was the problem, take out the factory fuel filter, take out the factory regulator at the bottom of the unit. We will replace the inlet and out ports of the factory sender unit with large an fittings so it can accept and push more fuel. Lastly, we will be running an adjustable pressure regulator in the engine bay, and a ~6an return fuel line back into the fuel tank.
An inline russel fuel filter will be run in the engine bay too.
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I should not have to run an external pump based on the calculations we made. Nothing is out of the equation though lol, since this is a one off setup with the E85 fueling.
Funny thing is, my blower nitrous setup did not require this change in fueling. This setup must just demand less base pressure at idle and more fuel pressure as boost starts to come on hard.
BTW, we broke one of the dyno straps Friday night when the boost came on. The thing almost came off the rollers, talk about needing to change your drawers after seeing that
Funny thing is, my blower nitrous setup did not require this change in fueling. This setup must just demand less base pressure at idle and more fuel pressure as boost starts to come on hard.
BTW, we broke one of the dyno straps Friday night when the boost came on. The thing almost came off the rollers, talk about needing to change your drawers after seeing that
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I should not have to run an external pump based on the calculations we made. Nothing is out of the equation though lol, since this is a one off setup with the E85 fueling.
Funny thing is, my blower nitrous setup did not require this change in fueling. This setup must just demand less base pressure at idle and more fuel pressure as boost starts to come on hard.
BTW, we broke one of the dyno straps Friday night when the boost came on. The thing almost came off the rollers, talk about needing to change your drawers after seeing that
Funny thing is, my blower nitrous setup did not require this change in fueling. This setup must just demand less base pressure at idle and more fuel pressure as boost starts to come on hard.
BTW, we broke one of the dyno straps Friday night when the boost came on. The thing almost came off the rollers, talk about needing to change your drawers after seeing that
